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Ford screwed the Falcon
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I thought I'd just throw it out there to see what people say. Australian rules are that spare parts must be available for 10 years after the end of a model's life (with an all time buy option available after 7 years). So in theory all the parts should still be available to build the VFII models.
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What's changed since it was closed?
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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Would be nice if they just switched the lights off and locked the doors but reality dictates that it is being stripped apart bit by bit as we speak.
Somewhere between July and October is the cut off for when the decommissioning will be complete im told. |
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Ford screwed the Falcon
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which were accumulated over the years?
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That seems quick, I drove past Ford Geelong the other day and the door in front of the old cafeteria was open and all the machinery looked like it was still in there.
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Some say it will be a training hub, others say warehousing, not sure on the finer detail. Its very central to the area so they dont want it to become a wasteland. |
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If the shipping containers/bins going in and out of Elizabeth are anything to go by then no.
Plus it’s been sold. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-1...-group/9260458
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I'm sorry but Holden is fast becoming a zombie brand, still trading while the heads work out WTF to do
and you all know what could be coming without a huge reversal of fortune and more sales activity. I take absolutely no joy in this because there's an enormous human cost here that goes way beyond the value of the brand or any of its coulda shoulda woulda decisions that's maybe sealed Holden's fate. |
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The wording is service & consumable items must be made available for a "reasonable period" and it's even more ambiguous when it comes to panels for smash repair. Just ask my brother who had to wait 2 months for a VE washer bottle before the smash repairer would release his ute. On backorder for that time, despite a ready supply going into new cars on the production line. And guess what, the ACL (Australian Consumer Law) was not broken. |
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I doubt they would ever reuse the plant. If they wanted to restart any manufacturing they would be smarter to get a new building and a government grant to build it! 😉
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Even if the Opel based Commodore failed to sell a single unit beyond dealer demo's, GM's approach would be "Too bad, so sad"
Australia is far too small a market for GM to be bothered about trying cater for what is ultimately a niche market, the fact that they've replaced the outgoing model with a turbo 4 cylinder front driver with a 230kw V6 AWD option and no plans beyond lip service for anything more powerful. As for parts availability, with Ford, GM and Toyota closing up shop locally, the suppliers for a lot of the parts have simply ceased to exist.
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they will rebadge a camry and call it an apollo...
my money is on the new caddy CT5 prices in the US are very similar spec for spec with Regal and ATS Holden will beg GM for a RHD design of the new CT5 which would not be too hard they will be made in China and the US so we might get a bit of both here i'd say 2021 it will happen as the current commodore will be dead by then they might even have HSV converting them before 2021 so there is no gap purely speculation!
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Did the OP get (temporarily) banned for asking this question?
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I'm not sure the Ford stuff actually went. I know that was the plan, and I'm sure they would be much better looked after in a Head Office archive, but I believe the Ford US team wouldn't sort the stuff out, and there's no local resource to do so and it is still sitting in boxes here somewhere. I hope I'm wrong.
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Not sure what has happened to the Holden plant but i can tell you toyota's Altona plant has already been gutted and refurbs are taking place right now.
On a side note, is it too early right now to ask but have the 100,000's of people aligned with the car manufacturing lost their jobs yet? It was predicted by many that these would be the roll on affect of the plant closures.
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We've had a few come through our yard buying big vans with this intention. From what the owner tells me, they've never been this busy at this time of the year. Unemployment hit the worst in the country again last month. On another note, rental and owner occupied properties in the Elizabeth/Munno Para/Blakeview area are hitting the market in big numbers, we had 4 listen in our street in 1 week just after christmas and only 2 have sold. Many of the streets in our estate and suburb are seeing the same trends. We have some major infrastructure in progress at the moment so that is probably absorbing some of the numbers, however, they are in the later stages of completion so i think it will be another 12 months until we see the full effect of the closure here in SA. |
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Must be where all the FG2 XR front bumpers are. I've been thinking of buying a spare and I can't find a new one anywhere
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And they won't farm it out to an outside business to do it - there would be a lot of sensitive information in meeting minutes & the like, that they would not want released, no matter how trusted the contractor is. It would be a security risk, and a waste of money for them. There would be 99% of Australians who couldn't care less if those archives were incinerated or kept. It's only the true fanatics that would want to see them preserved. And remember too - many admin employees aren't there because they are fans. It's simply a job to them. They don't have the passion that the enthusiasts have, so they won't make decisions that suit the minority of us that do care. |
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Havent seen it advertised on tv, Equinox yes.
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How about those Equinox ads. "For people with nothing to prove" - pretty much saying that there is nothing special about it, no wonder the marketing boss got the flick.
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I think I'm still not over a wealthy country like ours with stuff all manufacturing , not just cars . WE ARE IDIOTS LED BY A BIGGER BUNCH OF IMBECILES IN CANBERRA ...for letting us sell out our country .
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I have it on good authority that the site will be turning out locally produced Fender Stratocasters and Fender Twin amps with awesome clean tones but packed with a killer overdrive when needed.
Ok, I'm lying... |
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