Another fatality

LTDHO · 17-02-2007, 09:35 PM

Night before last the was a multible fatality on Maltby Bypass near Werribee.

Last night another multible fatality in Victoria. Some may have heard this on the news, it was on the south Gipsland highway in Clide.

I drove past it this morning and got a chill doen my spine. It was very sad sight. The VX Commodore was 95% under the trailer of the B-double. I could only identify the car by the tail lights. The wheels of the trailer flatened the rest of the car.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...405488358.html

I drove past at 0730 today, the incident had occured over three hours earlier. Then I drove back home at 1330 and they had just started to use a crane to lift the trailer.

Very sad indeed.

angelfury · 17-02-2007, 10:15 PM

i just heard on the news that a rear pax survived in that car. it hit the truck at an estimated 180kph.

Melz · 17-02-2007, 10:27 PM

What a sad news.
I also feel sorry for the poor truck driver, he has to live with that thought for the rest of his life, even though it wasn't his fault.

LUXO_8 · 17-02-2007, 10:34 PM

yeah i heard about it on the news....sucks that ya had to see it wayne...:(

certainly not good at all......amasing how anyone could have possibly survived

Ford_V8 · 17-02-2007, 10:35 PM

Very sad to see, That green commodore looked absolutely mangled, amazing that the bloke in the back seat survived, I'm sure he'll be counting his blessings now. Also noticed that it was on a road that had the speed limit dropped from 100 to 90. Alot of good that did, 150km/h into a truck is still 150km/h into a truck, although I spose he was exceeding the speed limit by an extra 10km/h. Which of course is reducing the road toll at an alarming rate.

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Has anybody else noticed that a large majority of fatal crashes that appear in the media are holden commodores or its variants?... Is this because of their renowned structural strength, or lack thereof. Or do hoons just like to drive commodores? Or is it just that a commodore is a common car, this one has me baffled.

XRchic · 17-02-2007, 10:40 PM

Very sad. Too many families losing loved ones at the moment.

And yes, I feel very bad for the poor truck driver. No amount of counselling is going to help him forget that accident for a long time.

Keepleft · 17-02-2007, 11:01 PM

Whilst a 'multiple' fatality, it is still an individual crash. The Victorian toll may or may not be getting worse on a per 100vkt measure.

Are some answers to all this, but too many dumbarses control things in Vic.

AU2PWR · 18-02-2007, 12:43 AM

the clyde intersection is a Death Trap , there is a Accident every week

Hitman · 18-02-2007, 12:56 AM

I drove past this morning heading towards Cranbourne but got diverted, but on the way back it was all cleared up, but the thing that most stood out was the lack of skidmarks .(abs)?

Scott · 18-02-2007, 01:19 AM

Looking at that pic just put a knot in my stomach. I can't help but think of the car looking a million bucks, the owner having a great day and then in an instant nothing is ever the same again. Those who have had a serious acco will know exactly what I'm on about - if you are lucky enough to survive, the real impact hits when you look at your car and you could just about puke.

normxb · 18-02-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Melz

What a sad news.
I also feel sorry for the poor truck driver, he has to live with that thought for the rest of his life, even though it wasn't his fault.

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Originally Posted by XRchic

Very sad. Too many families losing loved ones at the moment.
And yes, I feel very bad for the poor truck driver. No amount of counselling is going to help him forget that accident for a long time.

I can vouch for that . You "Learn to Live With It" , but you never forget . (33 yrs for me) still seems like yesterday .

Vary sad for the families & truck driver . This is why I TRY to convince anyone wanting to drive fast , do it on the track .

Today's cars are much safer than they were years ago , but do they give you a "False sense of Security" ?

sarrge2001 · 18-02-2007, 01:02 PM

Made the news here in Adelaide - said that the Commodore was driving with no lights.......

Bluefreak · 18-02-2007, 01:22 PM

Another Darwin candidate removed from the gene pool... Just a shame that so many of these potential award winners stuff up other lives in the process...

bob 351 · 18-02-2007, 01:23 PM

very sad

rodderz · 18-02-2007, 01:28 PM

When will the pollies realise that more speed cams and these new laws aren't changing people's road behaviour and attitude

People say more education day in day out, maybe one day they will listen and do something about it

sfr rob · 18-02-2007, 05:22 PM

I am sorry, but i have no sympathy for the guys that ended up under the truck.
Think about the poor truck driver now...... and the other guy that managed to walk away.
I say, if your booting along an 80 zone 100 k's over.. you deserve to end up under a truck like that, what if they t boned a family, or a car full of kids???

Rodderz, the Gov makes way too much money from camera's to give a toss about them not working. Nothing you can do...

GXL078 · 18-02-2007, 05:31 PM

One less Commodore maniac on the road makes it safer for the rest of us.

Outbackjack · 18-02-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

I am sorry, but i have no sympathy for the guys that ended up under the truck.
Think about the poor truck driver now...... and the other guy that managed to walk away.
I say, if your booting along an 80 zone 100 k's over.. you deserve to end up under a truck like that, what if they t boned a family, or a car full of kids???

Rodderz, the Gov makes way too much money from camera's to give a toss about them not working. Nothing you can do...

That seems a little harsh, but I know where you are coming from. If someone had to die it only seems "fair?" that the person doing idiotic things should be the one that gets the short straw.

What this country need's is a massive rally of performance vehicles and their drivers to converge on Canberra requesting the feds to make heaps more money available for new driver screening and education. We just cant believe or rely on State governments any longer, they see road saftey in terms of revenue and being "seen to be doing something."

LTDHO · 18-02-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

I am sorry, but i have no sympathy for the guys that ended up under the truck.
Think about the poor truck driver now...... and the other guy that managed to walk away.
I say, if your booting along an 80 zone 100 k's over.. you deserve to end up under a truck like that, what if they t boned a family, or a car full of kids???

Rodderz, the Gov makes way too much money from camera's to give a toss about them not working. Nothing you can do...

Rob there is no proof the car was speeding, the accident could have occured at 80kph, under the posted speed limit.

Unfortunately it comes down to driver error. Which in this case ended in death. Drivers need to take more care and responibility for their actions.

conordec · 18-02-2007, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=GTP006]if you are lucky enough to survive, the real impact hits when you look at your car and you could just about puke.

i can vouch for that, i tboned a vw back in 92, i was doing around 90kms, they came straight out of a side street running a stop sign.... nice one.
pulled them out of the passenger side as fuel was everywhere, ambos/cops/firies arrived and i sat on the side of the road in shock, looked at the damage and hurled, then noticed my legs were rooted... nice one.

it aint fun at all.

Hitman · 18-02-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xcgxl

One less Commodore maniac on the road makes it safer for the rest of us.

For a supposedly educated fella, you aren't very bright are you.

BZINGA · 18-02-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Rob there is no proof the car was speeding, the accident could have occured at 80kph, under the posted speed limit.

Unfortunately it comes down to driver error. Which in this case ended in death. Drivers need to take more care and responibility for their actions.

It was said on the news that the car was travelling at a speed of 180k's.

jcxr · 18-02-2007, 06:24 PM

It also mentioned the truck was doing a right hand turn???

LUXO_8 · 18-02-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIK67

It was said on the news that the car was travelling at a speed of 180k's.

yeah thats what i heard too.....180 with no lights on

vegabass · 18-02-2007, 06:47 PM

Its not just the southerners that had a bad few days... Up here northern NSW (Tweed Heads) Had a fatal accident wich involved a old man and a family van. And new cars are not always safe...this poor old man had no chance in his GETZ.

I also pulled a older lady from a convertable mustang on sexton hill who later passed away. it was a 5 car pile up in the same spot it always happens.

As a rescue operator it makes me sick to get out the jaws and cut out the b pilar or any nice car...let a lone a full roof removal! so just think about that before being silly on a public road.

Bobman · 18-02-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Rob there is no proof the car was speeding, the accident could have occured at 80kph, under the posted speed limit.

Unfortunately it comes down to driver error. Which in this case ended in death. Drivers need to take more care and responibility for their actions.

The car was very much so over the limit.

On the other hand, you hardly see a Clubsport doing anything under...

The real victims here are the families & the truck driver who will never be the same again.

LTDHO · 18-02-2007, 06:48 PM

Oh the news said it. So it must be true!!!!

Speed is a scapegoat, there were no brake lines.

It's easier to say the car was speeding and 'speed kills' this justified all the cameras.

How do you know the driver of the clubsport wasn't lighting a smoke, changing a CD, pashing his GF????

GREGXR8 · 18-02-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xcgxl

One less Commodore maniac on the road makes it safer for the rest of us.

thats intelligent is'nt it! i knew the owner of the commodore and that so called maniac has left a wife and family behind that dont need to read idiotic comments like that. and as he ownes a transport co down that way theres a good chance the poor bloke driving the truck knew him.

Bobman · 18-02-2007, 07:15 PM

Two close calls overnight aswell, one of which 5 females injured in a collision with a pole, which looked to be Sydney Road? WTF? How can you do that on that road.

Road toll is just as bad if not worse than last year, all the speed camera's, what have they done to prevent the last two double fatalities? Nothing at all & frankly I think most people are sick of being told to wipe off 5 km/h, bla bla bla, it would not have made any difference in any of aforementioned collisions anyway.

The Government & Police really need to take a different approach, ie get more of them on the road, as opposed to tied up with files etc. Simple.

mik · 18-02-2007, 07:33 PM

lets face it humans are unpredictable as long as we are these things will happen, and by the look of that smash if the bdouble was turning, i don`t think you need to be doing 180k`s to end up like that, a car roof hitting steel rails is no match