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Old 20-07-2006, 08:50 PM   #1
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Hello again people. It's become apparent after I've fitted the cam to my AU1 xr8 that I need to re-calibrate the ecu. It's behaving better than after I installed it but it still has a hiccup now and then like it wants more fuel.
So, what do I do? I would like to re-map the fuel and ignition curve, but what tuner /ecu do I get. Some like the motec seem too complex for my needs.
Would I be better off getting a snapon scanner that can re-map fuel curves and I can use on other cars as well?
What is the go?! :

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Old 20-07-2006, 09:11 PM   #2
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Do a search on this... has come up too many times...

Your best bet is use the factory computer, but get an edit (re-flashing the current ECU with a heavily tweaked/tuned fuel map). This can be done at variou places... G&D would be first recommended or CAPA if they are in sydney... closer to Young....
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Old 20-07-2006, 09:14 PM   #3
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CAPA Flash Tuner
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Old 20-07-2006, 11:13 PM   #4
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Yep, Flash Tuner, tuned by Chris from Bluepower would be the way to go.
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Yep Flash tuner with a custom edit.I had a simular problem when my cam got installed.After a little playing with the tuner all was sweet.
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Old 21-07-2006, 09:13 AM   #6
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If your in brisbane i highly recommend you give Steve at Redcliffe Dyno a call. I just had one of there systems installed to sort out the fuel and timing issues that popped up since changing heads. To sum up: B4 heads 228 rwhp, After heads 237 rwhp, After RDP ECU 253.9 rwhp. Sorted out light and WOT mixtures and timing and the car feels 100% happier through a hard run, not bogged down. Not sure if the system can do this but the lock up in the auto comes in at a better time, firmer maybe? Maybe the just tinkered a bit... ;)
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Old 21-07-2006, 11:09 AM   #7
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AFAIK Spiro at Autotech in Granville/Sydney does the CAPA Flash Tuner.
It just depends which is the closer place to you to get this done.
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Their is a bit of info on the flash tuner & a list of shops that can sort you out with one at the bottome of this page http://www.capa.com.au/ford_flash_tuner.htm

PS 8pac love the quote hadn't noticed it until now thanks
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Old 21-07-2006, 06:12 PM   #9
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Sounds like a custom edited flash tuner is the way to go , but is this different to the $995 capa tuner that I could do myself. A dyno flash tune might be better. How much does a dyno flash tune usually cost?
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Sounds like a custom edited flash tuner is the way to go , but is this different to the $995 capa tuner that I could do myself. A dyno flash tune might be better. How much does a dyno flash tune usually cost?
Flash Tuner/Capa flash is the same thing. Dyno tuning is around $500 to $600
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Old 21-07-2006, 07:34 PM   #11
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Is the CAPA flash tuner adjustable? Does it hook up with the pc so I can muck about with it or is it a pre-set thing that you load into your car's pcm and that's it?
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Is the CAPA flash tuner adjustable? Does it hook up with the pc so I can muck about with it or is it a pre-set thing that you load into your car's pcm and that's it?
It can if you buy the dealer software...
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Old 21-07-2006, 08:43 PM   #13
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So a custom flash tune is the go. Thanks for all your input, I'll let you all know what happens....
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So a custom flash tune is the go. Thanks for all your input, I'll let you all know what happens....
Yep - you actually get the option of 3 tunes (plus factory tune) in one box. For example, Valet tune, where rev limit is set at 3000rpm in all gears. Then you have a street tune, and a missus tune. Plus you get the standard Ford tune as well. You swap them over by uploading from the box.
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Old 21-07-2006, 09:33 PM   #15
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So a custom flash tune is the go. Thanks for all your input, I'll let you all know what happens....
Spot on ;)
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