Problems with VE production?

Falcon Freak · 20-07-2006, 09:46 PM

A work colleague of mine informed me that Holden stopped production of the VE model this morning and were going to start building VZ wagons and utes. This is surprising news as VE production started last Thursday and they are supposed to be ramping up to 600 cars a day to fill all the dealer orders. Holden were not planning to build any more VZ models this month so that they could concentrate on the VE.

Anybody heard anything similar?

FF

I6corp · 20-07-2006, 09:52 PM

lol, how good is your source?

Falcon Freak · 20-07-2006, 09:57 PM

The work colleague is our logistics manager who heard it from Holden.

FF

galaxy xr8 · 20-07-2006, 10:03 PM

Yes it could be true all because off a company in Bendigo going under and going into receivership, the company is refussing to payout the employees and they are blockadding the exit's/entries, this is caussing all motorvehicle company's greif, they said on the local new's tonight this is haulting the VE's progression.

Falcon Freak · 20-07-2006, 10:11 PM

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...166455612.html

FF

**Polyal** · 20-07-2006, 10:14 PM

Ouch...

In other VE related news, I heard on the radio that Holden are having a launch in Geelong, cheeky buggers if thats true.

galaxy xr8 · 20-07-2006, 10:41 PM

Something that I seen on the new's that I thought was a bit funny was a couple off the worker's that are on strike baracadding the entries were wearing HSV jumper's and cap's,?????.

WASP · 20-07-2006, 10:44 PM

That's not good. That will effect Ford aswell by the sounds of it. Doesn't sound like an easy fix issue either, very complicated in fact. Holden must be very disappointed.

vztrt · 20-07-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CDAA

That's not good. That will effect Ford aswell by the sounds of it. Doesn't sound like an easy fix issue either, very complicated in fact. Holden must be very disappointed.

Yep, Ford will not be making cars tomorrow because of this. Normally when these suppliers have problems it effects both Holden and Ford as they buy from the same supplier. You would be surprised how many companies sell to both because the quantity to only one isn't enough.

jimmy_c · 20-07-2006, 11:37 PM

oh nice so we have to wait even longer for our new wagon.

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WASP · 20-07-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_c

oh nice so we have to wait even longer for our new wagon.

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Highly unlikely jimmy. Last I heard (3 weeks ago)Ford had a stockpile of BF Falcon wagons to move, you shouldn't be waiting in theory.

GOLDIE · 21-07-2006, 07:25 AM

Ford are shut down today and monday because of this.

Ian

Full Spectrum · 21-07-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Ouch...

In other VE related news, I heard on the radio that Holden are having a launch in Geelong, cheeky buggers if thats true.

Couldn't be anymore cheeky then Toyota driving the Aurion out onto Telstra Dome last Sunday on VE launch day

OzJavelin · 21-07-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Something that I seen on the new's that I thought was a bit funny was a couple off the worker's that are on strike baracadding the entries were wearing HSV jumper's and cap's,?????.

Yes ... Bendigo is pretty much "Holden Country" isn't it ...

SB076 · 21-07-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Yep, Ford will not be making cars tomorrow because of this. Normally when these suppliers have problems it effects both Holden and Ford as they buy from the same supplier. You would be surprised how many companies sell to both because the quantity to only one isn't enough.

Does the strike affect Toyota and Mitsubishi as well?

pauljh74 · 21-07-2006, 02:48 PM

I'd say Holden must have some parts for the VZ wagons stockpiled for them to switch production back to the VZ. It's efficient management of their assembly plant to apply their resources in this manner.

Kommandant · 21-07-2006, 03:05 PM

ABOUT 2000 workers at a Ford plant in Melbourne have been stood down because of a strike at a car parts manufacturer in the state.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...12-421,00.html

vztrt · 21-07-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CDAA

Highly unlikely jimmy. Last I heard (3 weeks ago)Ford had a stockpile of BF Falcon wagons to move, you shouldn't be waiting in theory.

If the car is brand new on order than if it hasn't been built he will have to wait as there are specific cars (have a serial number or the last 7 digits in the vin) for customers.

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Originally Posted by GOLDIE

Ford are shut down today and Monday because of this.

Ian

No cars were getting produced on Monday anyway.

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Originally Posted by SB076

Does the strike affect Toyota and Mitsubishi as well?

No idea, they could be or they could have enough stock to not be effected, or they could have made the days production days off or something.

galaxy xr8 · 21-07-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OzJavelin

Yes ... Bendigo is pretty much "Holden Country" isn't it ...

I would have said that a few yr's back when HRT were winning, but in the last couple off yr's I think I've seen more Blue oval gear on people espically young people around Bendigo than the red stuff, It's good.

cheeza5 · 21-07-2006, 07:48 PM

no ford works have been stood down at all, today and monday are 60% downday so they still get money.
i should know i am a body production supervisor.

Bossxr8 · 21-07-2006, 08:45 PM

How the hell did Holden get emergency supplies to keep production going when us Ford workers have been stood down. Mondays a down day but after that no pay.

Full Spectrum · 21-07-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

How the hell did Holden get emergency supplies to keep production going when us Ford workers have been stood down. Mondays a down day but after that no pay.

Cause ZF was going to sue someones ****

GT-E · 21-07-2006, 10:28 PM

I have client that does work in the Elizabeth Factory and they said that if they (external company) cause the production line to stop, they were charged $4,000 per minute as a penalty.
When I was there 18 months ago the production line stopped as they had run out of body sides. Great place to look around, pity they were all holdens....

ltd · 22-07-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

How the hell did Holden get emergency supplies to keep production going when us Ford workers have been stood down. Mondays a down day but after that no pay.

Because Bogans are all union stooges, and well, Holden is a bogan car.
The bogan code is to avoid hurting bogans at any cost. Sort of like the yobbo's that rioted in Macquarie fields.
Therefore the unions did a deal entwined in the sacred bogan code(much the same as Doug Cameron sold his soul to satan).

Sorry to hear about your situation Bossxr8. I hope Ford can get supply soon and you can get back to work.
Just for future reference, my company will be buying atleast 3 BF2 LTD's when released in around October, as they may be the last ever. Additionally, I have 4 colleagues considering the same.

vztrt · 22-07-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeza5

no ford works have been stood down at all, today and monday are 60% downday so they still get money.
i should know i am a body production supervisor.

Monday is a 60% downday, but friday was never a planned as a downday. As I understood it, the stepdown day was no pay for the operators.

VSSII · 22-07-2006, 11:20 PM

Organising stamping presses and the like is a MASSIVE job. For this reason alone there is no way they would have taken a backward step creating old cars. But really, as if! I can see it now.. "Uh Mr SMITH, that new VE you ordered.. Well we had a few hiccups and it's now a VZ. Hope you don't mind. Here, as a consolation here's some mats and headlight protectors. Hope this make up for it."

stevz · 23-07-2006, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Because Bogans are all union stooges, and well, Holden is a bogan car.

And since when do 'bogans' go out and buy brand new Holdens? Sure, a lot of them may drive VB-VL's but then again there is certainly no shortage of ford loving bogans either.
Get in touch with reality and stop making ridiculous comments.

snypereb · 23-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Doesnt really matter anyways does it the VE is a very ugly car the less the better!!

MightyXR6Turbo · 23-07-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VSSII

Organising stamping presses and the like is a MASSIVE job. For this reason alone there is no way they would have taken a backward step creating old cars. But really, as if! I can see it now.. "Uh Mr SMITH, that new VE you ordered.. Well we had a few hiccups and it's now a VZ. Hope you don't mind. Here, as a consolation here's some mats and headlight protectors. Hope this make up for it."

Holden were always planning to build the VE and VZ simultaniously, as the ute and wagon are carryover models. So with a shortage of VE parts they can continue to build VZ and not stand down operators

Remember, VE wagons and utes aren't due until late 2008 so we will see VZ's for a while to come.

DEVL-XR · 23-07-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Yes it could be true all because off a company in Bendigo going under and going into receivership, the company is refussing to payout the employees and they are blockadding the exit's/entries, this is caussing all motorvehicle company's greif, they said on the local new's tonight this is haulting the VE's progression.

im from bendigo, and yeah its Empire Rubber that has shut down, or should i say 'strike'! the owner or manager has put all the companies money into stock markets or something similar (investments) and the workers weren't being paid. theres an Empire Rubber in melbourne too but they have gone on strike also in support for the bendigo Empire Rubber. so now people have been sacked and the company dosen't have enough money to pay them out.

all just a big mess!!

cheers
Braden