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Old 14-07-2006, 10:04 PM   #1
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Hi All,

The time has come to start doing a few little things to the old girl _2:

First things first, I've got an oxygen sensor on it's way which will hopefully help with fuel consumption a bit.

Next I'm looking at changing the intake set up, and while I'd love to get a full G & D set up, I just don't think it's gonna hapen :

What i am thinking is something along the lines of a K & N Panel filter and a tickford snorkel.

Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing, and or any other suggestions?

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Old 14-07-2006, 10:15 PM   #2
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most people will recommend a Tickford/xr6T intake snorkel, then the top half of an EF/L airbox, and a K&N/BMC panel filter. the benifit of the EL airbox lid, is that you can attach a larger pipe to it. where as, you would have to bastardise the AU airbox lid to do that. you wont get massive gains from it, just improved throttle response pretty much.
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What i am thinking is something along the lines of a K & N Panel filter and a tickford snorkel.
Lots of guys have this, me included. Seems to work as well as any.
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What HLC said. Also consider extractors and a 2.5' exhaust.
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Old 14-07-2006, 10:27 PM   #5
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Man that was quick, thanks all!!

Will definitely go with the K&N panel filter, just trying to find 1 on ebay now coz I'm too damn lazy to walk into a shop :

Do the ba xr6 turbo intake snorkel fit straight up? Does anyone know roughly what they're worth?

HLC, when you say use an EF/EL airbox lid so you can fit a bigger pipe, sorry for the noob question, but what pipe do you mean?
If it is worthwhile to change the lid, I actually just bough an EF as a temporary car so I'll just swap the lids between the 2 cars, very handy!
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Man that was quick, thanks all!!

Will definitely go with the K&N panel filter, just trying to find 1 on ebay now coz I'm too damn lazy to walk into a shop :

Do the ba xr6 turbo intake snorkel fit straight up? Does anyone know roughly what they're worth?

HLC, when you say use an EF/EL airbox lid so you can fit a bigger pipe, sorry for the noob question, but what pipe do you mean?
If it is worthwhile to change the lid, I actually just bough an EF as a temporary car so I'll just swap the lids between the 2 cars, very handy!
sorry, so you can fit a bigger pipe leaving the airbox and too the throttle body... i think there is a tutorial on www.aufalcon.com but i might be wrong.
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Cool, thanks, just had a read of it!

I think for now I'll go with the snorkel, ef lid, K&N filter and I will do caspers mod to the airbox of adding another intake to the box.

I had never realised the tutorials were there! Very interesting stuff indeed!
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Cool, thanks, just had a read of it!

I think for now I'll go with the snorkel, ef lid, K&N filter and I will do caspers mod to the airbox of adding another intake to the box.

I had never realised the tutorials were there! Very interesting stuff indeed!
I'm not sure that Casper's mod is the best one to do. I wouldn't go cutting up your box. No offence to casper, or anyone else who's experimented, but that mod was done a while ago, when many were experimenting with airbox mods.

The G&D mod appears the best, but is costly.

I don't think you'll get any more benefit from cutting up your airbox, or fitting an E series lid, than you would by simply going the Tickford Snorkel (now known as the XR6T snorkel) on your AU box. The panel filter is the go, and many went to a pod filter setup, but later switched back to the panel.

Your car of course, but there's my thoughts. There are almost as many thoughts on this subject as members of the forum, so I'm sure you'll get some more responses, so read up buddy, take your time and what ever you decide, I hope it works well for you.

BTW, here's a link to a snorkel currently for sale. I bought one from Ford new for $36, and one second hand off a forum member for $20 (thanks Krissy). He's not stating a price, but asking for offers.

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Thanks GK, yeah |am a little reluctant to start hacking into things seeing as me and power tools don't get along all that well : I also wasn't sure whether a white plumbing pipe going to the airbox would look a bit too defectable as well.

Re the snorkel, may as well get one new if they're only $36 (had a chat with the guy about the one for sale, but he is a bit too far from me).

Thanks for your advice all, and I will let you know how these first few things go over the next week or 2.

After this will be the exhaust as that's just about had it!
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Dont bother hacking into the airbox. Just get a bigger snorkle and K&N/BMC panel filter. Also, dont expect any improvement from it unless you go for headers and exhaust too as it is a bigger restriction than the intake. Finally, keep the original AU lid and tapered piping, it is not a restriction and actually has a strong argument that it is a better setup than a straight 3" intake (at least to about 150rwkw).
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Thanks Casper! Yeah, not really expecting much improvement if anything - it needs a new air filter and I figure I may as well get a decent one and while I'm at it, may as well chuck a new snorkel on. Any improvement is a bonus.

Will definitely be getting an exhaust done in the near future, just got a few other little things to do first though namely a tranny cooler and fix a few window switches that have just started sticking!!
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Will definitely go with the K&N panel filter, just trying to find 1 on ebay now coz I'm too damn lazy to walk into a shop :



I just put a k&n filter in the otherday. and it made a difference even with the standard airbox. 130dollars well spent. *waits for new air box to arrive*

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Cool! I've only ever done intake mods to turbo cars where you do get a reasonable difference, but I'm really not expecting too much out of the old AU!
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I think thats why i was impressed at the *slight* difference just a filter made. i only bought it because im putting in a new air box, and wanted to have the full package of induction. Ive a fetish for the smell of k&n filters :P

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Cool! They do have a distinctive smell don't they?!
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I think thats why i was impressed at the *slight* difference just a filter made. i only bought it because im putting in a new air box, and wanted to have the full package of induction. Ive a fetish for the smell of k&n filters :P

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Mmmmmm K & N recharge kit, droooollllll :Reverend:
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BTW, here's a link to a snorkel currently for sale. I bought one from Ford new for $36, and one second hand off a forum member for $20 (thanks Krissy). He's not stating a price, but asking for offers.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showpos...68&postcount=1

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Just bought an XR6T snorkel from Ford new for only $35! I'll chuck it in once it stops raining for a while :
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I just installed a BA XR8/GT Pod in my AU2 6 cyl wagon, and it seems to be heaps better than the old square box. It has been modified to take the Tickford snorkel as well.





There's one for sale in the Parts for sale section - well worth considering.
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is there any improvement on the square air box ??? example sound,low down torque ???
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That looks really good JC - did you have to modify much to fit that, or was it a straight fit?
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is there any improvement on the square air box ??? example sound,low down torque ???
Massive induction howl, and seems a bit punchier. And that is compared to the SS inductions setup I had on it before.

priavte 9 - Yes, it did require a bit of fiddling to get it in - the standard scoop that comes with these (not the snorkel) had to be trimmed by about 100mm as it's designed to fit in behind BA lights, not AU. Also, the piping into it is custom, but is effectively just 3" mandrel bent at about 35 degress, 150mm from the end.
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Nice setup you got there, care to share how yoU modded the snorkal to fit the pod-box? Wouldn't mind doing it to myself as well.

Well done mate.

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hmm might havta get you to help me with this one JC mate ;)
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Nice setup you got there, care to share how yoU modded the snorkal to fit the pod-box? Wouldn't mind doing it to myself as well.

Well done mate.
It's the adaptor from BPT. I got the pod with adaptor from genebaby (off his BA XR8), so all I had to do was figure out how to connect it to the I6 intake. Wasn't that hard, just fiddly. I already had the 3" intake pipe, with an angle in it, so it's like it was meant to be.

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great stuff mate !!! i looks really good tooo!!!
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From What Dealers did you guys purchase your XR6T intakes for $35?

I purchased a K&N filter this morning and figure while im under the bonnet, i might as well add the intake.
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great stuff mate !!! i looks really good tooo!!!
And it goes better too. The missus just got back home after driving it, and wanted to know if a new airbox could mean more power? She has noticed that you only need to touch the throttle a little bit now to get the car going - a bit like my XR8; very ggod throttle response - no delay at all. So maybe no outright power gains, but I'm betting the torque starts earlier and the curve is flatter. I will know after 29 July (dyno day at jakes).
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From What Dealers did you guys purchase your XR6T intakes for $35?

I purchased a K&N filter this morning and figure while im under the bonnet, i might as well add the intake.
I got that price from South Melbourne Ford and Braeside Ford. Just be careful though as some dealerships were asking a fair bit more!
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Massive induction howl, and seems a bit punchier. And that is compared to the SS inductions setup I had on it before.

priavte 9 - Yes, it did require a bit of fiddling to get it in - the standard scoop that comes with these (not the snorkel) had to be trimmed by about 100mm as it's designed to fit in behind BA lights, not AU. Also, the piping into it is custom, but is effectively just 3" mandrel bent at about 35 degress, 150mm from the end.
Thanks JC, sounds awesome, but it might be a bit too much work for me!
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