H4 Xenon Gas Discharge Conversion Kit

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 12:10 PM

Has anyone put one of these kits ( http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catal...w&flmaint=2085 ) on there AU XR? How hard are they to install?

thanks in advance

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 03:11 PM

hmm....since the reflector wasn't designed for HID use i'd be guessing that there will be quite a bit of glare produced. also the hella H4 is for off road only and doesn't comply with any ADR and there fore not legal for on road use, so in my book more trouble then it's worth.

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 04:23 PM

^^^ I was thinking that but just thought i would ask thanks for your help

ilsautomotive · 07-12-2005, 04:27 PM

If you were prepared to retrofit HID projectors it could be done properly, but it would take a lot of dedication. I have a similar kit in my Eunos with stock projectors, which is OK but not ideal.

A good link is http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 05:33 PM

the main reason to upgrade to HID is to increase your light, or drop your total amp draw....if you just want looks there are other options for your car that are safer(legally speaking). if you want increased lowbeam contrast ie higher tempreature colour out put from your low beam consider upgrading your car....as the AU low beam is pretty darn good.

AnthonyQLD · 07-12-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Orbit

the main reason to upgrade to HID is to increase your light, or drop your total amp draw....if you just want looks there are other options for your car that are safer(legally speaking). if you want increased lowbeam contrast ie higher tempreature colour out put from your low beam consider upgrading your car....as the AU low beam is pretty darn good.

What are the standard globes that were put in the AU's? The ones that are in my AU are crap they have no spread at all. I was thinking of trying the philips vision plus. Does anyone know how well they work?

INJECTED_250 · 07-12-2005, 08:42 PM

DAmm.... AU's would have to have the best headlights of any falcon ever.... aslong as youre not driving towards them that is

galaxy xr8 · 07-12-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by INJECTED_250

DAmm.... AU's would have to have the best headlights of any falcon ever.... aslong as youre not driving towards them that is

I agree, the AU light's are very good.

Lukeyson · 07-12-2005, 09:31 PM

i know what your meaning 'ahhhh my retina' is what i scream every AU i pass at night

Orbit · 07-12-2005, 10:02 PM

narva artic's are prett ygood and the philips are pretty good too.
what are your reflectors like? there might be more problems then just your globes

bigred · 08-12-2005, 04:10 AM

I have a set of bi-xenons H4's in my AU2 Ghia. They do the high beam, by using an actuator thats part of the bulb.

They are the retrofit kit as seen on ebay and hella. I just make sure that I have the main bean probably a little bit lower than the correctly aimed setting to accomodate the power of the xenons.

As for the police, I have had these bad boys in for about 2 days, and driven past 3 coppers, and noone had a poblem, even when I was following one for a brief period.

They look great though and the light is awesome.

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 08:44 AM

The AUXR come std with H4 60/55 (dual filament) globes. Also they have a metal reflector body & glass lens (totally inseperatable) therefore making any modification virtually impossible. My advice would be to install Philips Crystal Vision or Blue Vision 60/55 watts. Using a higher wattage in these headlights (or any for that matter) only results in overloading/overheating the electrical system & burning of the reflector surface.

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ilsautomotive · 08-12-2005, 10:55 AM

That is true, but blue-tinted bulbs of any sort generally have the same heat issue as they try to immitate the pure white light of 4300k HID. The tint creates a whiter light by reducing the yellow from the spectrum, but of course that energy is turned into heat and effectively means reduced output and increased wiring/reflector damage.

Orbit · 08-12-2005, 11:00 AM

big red. do you have any pictures or more specs?

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dok

The AUXR come std with H4 60/55 (dual filament) globes. Also they have a metal reflector body & glass lens (totally inseperatable) therefore making any modification virtually impossible. My advice would be to install Philips Crystal Vision or Blue Vision 60/55 watts. Using a higher wattage in these headlights (or any for that matter) only results in overloading/overheating the electrical system & burning of the reflector surface.

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How do those lights go in the wet? I have heard that the whiter lights reflect alot in the wet!

Orbit · 08-12-2005, 12:26 PM

they are fine in the wet. i had them in mine driving to lismore when they had 26inches in 24 hours or somethign stupid like that earlier this year and they were fantastic

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 12:45 PM

according to Philips the Crystal vision is not approved for road use! has anyone ever had any trouble?

What type are the highbeems in the AU? H1 or H7?

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

according to Philips the Crystal vision is not approved for road use! has anyone ever had any trouble?

What type are the highbeems in the AU? H1 or H7?

I have Philips Blue Vision in 1 of my vehicles (AU) no problems in the wet here either. AU highbeam is H1.

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dok

I have Philips Blue Vision in 1 of my vehicles (AU) no problems in the wet here either. AU highbeam is H1.

Do you have blue vision in your highbeam to?

thanks for all the help people :eclipsee_

The Dok · 08-12-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

Do you have blue vision in your highbeam to?

thanks for all the help people :eclipsee_

No........didn't see the need as most of the driving I do doesn't require the use of high-beam.

romaniac · 08-12-2005, 08:05 PM

im using phillips diamond vision, great light and no problems from police

Orbit · 08-12-2005, 08:52 PM

i've got them in both.....and lots of other big lights as i do most of my driving in the middle of knowwhere at stupid oclock.
like DOK said, if you don't need them don't worry abou them

AnthonyQLD · 08-12-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by romaniac

im using phillips diamond vision, great light and no problems from police

Philips say that Diamond vision has less intensity to a standard globe. Do you find this to be a problem? They are also a 5000K colour so I presume that they are very white/ blue????

Has anyone tried the Vision plus globes.
philips say up to 50% more light on the road in low beam and 10-20m extra on high beam.

luke · 08-12-2005, 09:51 PM

UITABLE FOR OFF-ROAD APPLICATIONS ONLY. NOT ADR COMPLIANT OR LEGAL FOR ROAD USE. Fitment and use is only permitted for H4 headlamp systems with integral globe shield.

Shouldn't matter anyway? Off road my a**

romaniac · 09-12-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyQLD

Philips say that Diamond vision has less intensity to a standard globe. Do you find this to be a problem? They are also a 5000K colour so I presume that they are very white/ blue????

Has anyone tried the Vision plus globes.
philips say up to 50% more light on the road in low beam and 10-20m extra on high beam.

nope, i found them to be brighter than my normal lights. The light is a white/blue yes.

Duffman · 09-12-2005, 11:17 AM

I was going to get some of those narva vision ones that are surpose to put out 50% more light for my au2 forte. Will they actually put out that much more light without hurting other peoples eyes?

AnthonyQLD · 09-12-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffman

I was going to get some of those narva vision ones that are surpose to put out 50% more light for my au2 forte. Will they actually put out that much more light without hurting other peoples eyes?

That is what I want to know about the Vision plus globes. I would think if they are Approved for raod use then they cant be to bad on other drivers eyes.
The vision plus would still still have a whiteish look about them being 3500K. Standard globes are only 3200K

Orbit · 09-12-2005, 12:25 PM

yep they are no worries, remember there is a difference between intensisty of light out put and the quality of the light(ie colour)

HLC · 09-12-2005, 11:10 PM

im Using Narva Arctic Blues and they are fantastic. gonna put em in my mums 'lane and dads XR too. im stoked with them.

**Mechan1k** · 10-12-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bigred

I have a set of bi-xenons H4's in my AU2 Ghia. They do the high beam, by using an actuator thats part of the bulb.

They are the retrofit kit as seen on ebay and hella. I just make sure that I have the main bean probably a little bit lower than the correctly aimed setting to accomodate the power of the xenons.

As for the police, I have had these bad boys in for about 2 days, and driven past 3 coppers, and noone had a poblem, even when I was following one for a brief period.

They look great though and the light is awesome.

I've had my JSM Bi-xenon kit in my ute for over 6 months now ... I drive during the day with low beam on (i'm a courier and prefer to drive with lights on all the time for safety) ... I pass so many Police it is not funny .... I have not been pulled over at all.

Mine run at a colour temp of 6000K ... and kinda look blue ... more white than anything at night though ... I also have adjustment set down a bit as well to reduce glare.

But they are not ideal though ... hence why I will be retro-fitting HID projectors into my aftermarket AU headlights soon ... when money and time permits ... then I will have a perfect flat top beam with no glare whatsoever.

Mind you I was flashed by a Bombadore last night (after he flashed the VW Touareg (with HIDs) further in front of me .... they VW driver flashed him back ... so he decided to flash me as well ... poor bastard didn't realise I had a set of LightForce 240 Striker driving lights on the front of the ute as well. ... I think he was seeing stars/spots/was blind after I flashed him back.

Hope that taught him a lesson.