Orange County Choppers

Noddy · 14-09-2005, 09:34 PM

I have been watching their Discovery channel program lately and decided to check their site out. Some of the engineering and design is mind blowing.

My favorites being the,

Fire bike
Black Widow bike

I Robot bike
Cat bike
Carrol Shelby bike

http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/...er2_theme1.php

Gammaboy · 14-09-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Noddy

I have been watching their Discovery channel program lately and decided to check the site out. Some of the engineering and design is mind blowing.

My favorites being the,

Fire bike
Black Widow bike

I Robot bike
Cat bike
Carrol Shelby bike

http://www.orangecountychoppers.com/...er2_theme1.php

Engineering? None of that there son. They assemble bikes and then tack stuff onto them to make them different. I saw an episode where they were using a hammer to try and fit something that was 1/4" (6mm) out of alignment because one of the retarded meatheads there used the wron mount.... Hacks. Pure and Simple HACKS.

Some of the stuff people put to gether on Biker buildoff however.....

chippa6 · 14-09-2005, 09:51 PM

No I don't think they are hacks at all I have had the whole season for ages now and am still amazed each and every time I watch it. Having the vision and the skills to make these bikes from just an idea in ones head is nothing short of amazing.

the fire bike and comanche helicopter bike are my favourites, if you don't think that the manufacture and design of that comanche bike is engineering, I don't know what is.

Chippa

Noddy · 14-09-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

Engineering? None of that there son. They assemble bikes and then tack stuff onto them to make them different. I saw an episode where they were using a hammer to try and fit something that was 1/4" (6mm) out of alignment because one of the retarded meatheads there used the wron mount.... Hacks. Pure and Simple HACKS.

Some of the stuff people put to gether on Biker buildoff however.....

I am only basing my opinion on what i see on the program and the finished products whether it be on the show or on their website.......not bad effort for a bunch of retarded meatheads/hacks hey. :evil_laug

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big_pete · 14-09-2005, 10:14 PM

great show, however ive noticd in some of the newer epsodes (on pay) that paulie jnr just doesnt seem to have his heart in like the earlier bikes.

plus they use that cutting machine (cant remember the name) too much!

Biker build off last night was great, i love the Exile cycles bikes. the style is perfect for my tastes...

Smoke Pursuit · 14-09-2005, 10:16 PM

I agree...

These guys are hardcore, so hardcore infact i spent alot of money on buying their DVD's...

Great fun to watch and see pieces of metal evolve on an individual basis.

Noddy · 14-09-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by big_pete

great show, however ive noticd in some of the newer epsodes (on pay) that paulie jnr just doesnt seem to have his heart in like the earlier bikes.

plus they use that cutting machine (cant remember the name) too much!

Biker build off last night was great, i love the Exile cycles bikes. the style is perfect for my tastes...

If they cut the reality tv side of out of the occ show and just built bikes it would be much better. Biker buildoff, what channel was that on?

Noddy · 14-09-2005, 10:44 PM

no sweat, found it.

big_pete · 14-09-2005, 10:45 PM

discovery channel 7.30 tuesdays
i think the reality show side of American Chopper is what makes it great...
some real characters, mikey especially!!

Noddy · 14-09-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by big_pete

discovery channel 7.30 tuesdays
i think the reality show side of American Chopper is what makes it great...
some real characters, mikey especially!!

yeah true, just the arguing between snr and jnr gets a bit much sometimes.

RegSpec · 14-09-2005, 11:46 PM

Yeah, Mikeys a classic! Mrs loves him

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Damn, Id love to get my hands on one of those water cutting machines

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LTDHO · 15-09-2005, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by big_pete

discovery channel 7.30 tuesdays
i think the reality show side of American Chopper is what makes it great...
some real characters, mikey especially!!

It on tonight in Vic!

I will be watching it tonight, I watch it every week! They have talent and style.

My favorite is the Carol Shelby Chopper. I want it!

Mikey needs ti die, I hate him with a passion and I can see him distroy OCC, he never does anything constructive even when building his own bikes!

Racecraft · 15-09-2005, 07:56 AM

Scotty Cox and the bike he biult for Biker Build Off was my all time favourite

That new fabricator on OCC ( Rick i think is his name) makes Paul Jr. look like a monkey when you see that Rick manufactures all the hard custom fab jobs..

Gammaboy · 15-09-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chippa6

if you don't think that the manufacture and design of that comanche bike is engineering, I don't know what is.

Mate, I'm an engineer, and I can tell you, those guys don't engineer a damn thing.
"Hey Cletus, this bolt dont fit the darn hole.."
"Well, Jim-bob, just hit it with t'biggest hammer we gots till it fits"

Anyway, if *any* of those choppers were engineered, they'd actually be able to go round corners...

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

Scotty Cox and the bike he biult for Biker Build Off was my all time favourite

That new fabricator on OCC ( Rick i think is his name) makes Paul Jr. look like a monkey when you see that Rick manufactures all the hard custom fab jobs..

Now thats beautiful fabrication. The International Biker build off really showed up the "American" fabrication techniques... It chopped from Scotty Cox saying "Its all hand formed and polished, no filler at all" to footage of the american guy spreading filler onto the tank with a spatula to cover up their dodgy welding....

Jesse Rooke's bike was phenominal too.... that guy can fabricate and engineer stuff for real. Such a simple, clean, subtle bike, and light too. weighed about 2/3rd of what anyone elses bike did.

Now, the Fab work on the Aprillia MotoGP bike is nothing short of phenominal...

the_scotsman · 15-09-2005, 08:45 AM

Bloody awesome show....very entertaining!

And I can't see how they are "hacks" or "not engineers"...how the hell do they build those things then if they just bodge them together...you dont see all the initial design stuff that goes on...the bikes dont build themselves...

Gammaboy · 15-09-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the_scotsman

Bloody awesome show....very entertaining!

And I can't see how they are "hacks" or "not engineers"...

Trust me, they're not engineers.

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Originally Posted by the_scotsman

how the hell do they build those things then if they just bodge them together...you dont see all the initial design stuff that goes on...the bikes dont build themselves...

They are Fabricators. There is a BFD between an engineer and a fabricator...
OCC are just a higher level of Bodging. They use bought in frames, bought in motors, and assemble stuff, then tack a funny shaped tank or mudgard onto the bike.
Watch Overhaulin (Chip Foose's show) or Boyd Coddingtons ahow, and there's a whole different level of skill involved.

XYGTHO · 15-09-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

Trust me, they're not engineers.

They are Fabricators. There is a BFD between an engineer and a fabricator...
OCC are just a higher level of Bodging. They use bought in frames, bought in motors, and assemble stuff, then tack a funny shaped tank or mudgard onto the bike.
Watch Overhaulin (Chip Foose's show) or Boyd Coddingtons ahow, and there's a whole different level of skill involved.

I do agree to a level with what you are saying. Theres not a whole lot of actual engineering going on more just visualisation and then creating using a lot of bolt on bits. Its more just the manufacture of bikes. Still like the show but, its good to see the bikes come together. And Paulie n his father remind me of me and my father the way we squable. lol.

The Mighty Red · 15-09-2005, 10:09 AM

I really enjoy the OCC show and whether they are engineers or not the fact is , is that everyone knows who they are and what they do, Unlike other shows/bike builders being mentioned in this thread.

They are the pioneers of this kind of tv show and are building bikes for some of the biggest corporations in the USA with huge budgets and are obviously doing something right.

I would bet they could engineer and build a bike from scratch if they wanted or had the time to do,

Gammaboy · 15-09-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by L.F.C

I would bet they could engineer and build a bike from scratch if they wanted or had the time to do,

I'd doubt they could *Engineer* a bike at all, I mean, those guys have trouble chewing gum and breathing at the same time or even tieing their shoelaces, let alone doing engineering calculations.....

Had the time to do? Jesse Rooke built his *entire* bike in the time alloted for the biker build off (7? days). The rules let you come into the show with the frame already built, he built his while the clock was ticking... Engineering stuff is not about "Having the time to do it", its about designing the stuff so you get it right (or very close to) first time out.

THE MADNESS · 15-09-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by XYGTHO

I do agree to a level with what you are saying. Theres not a whole lot of actual engineering going on more just visualisation and then creating using a lot of bolt on bits. Its more just the manufacture of bikes. Still like the show but, its good to see the bikes come together. And Paulie n his father remind me of me and my father the way we squable. lol.

Must say I'd have to agree with you and Gammaboy on this one. Great show tho and well worth watching IMO.

Same as the early episodes of Rides. Some of Chip Foose and Troy Trepanier's creations are just mind blowing. Just can't hack Jason Preistley and his narration through the entire show :rolleyes: Such a tosser!

HSE2 · 15-09-2005, 04:10 PM

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big_pete · 15-09-2005, 04:16 PM

the judging on world biker build off was a joke
clearly the aussie bike should have won, but it came down to a public vote with little kids etc, and they just pic the one with cool paint.
my favourite was the black exile bike, the style was amazing.
but the aussie bike was easily the best built.....

TZENU · 15-09-2005, 04:23 PM

Fav OCC bikes

Black Widow
Fire Bike
Statue of liberty bike
IRobot bike

vino3o2 · 15-09-2005, 04:26 PM

"Hey Cletus, this bolt dont fit the darn hole.."
"Well, Jim-bob, just hit it with t'biggest hammer we gots till it fits"

"Some foks can loose a toe and then again foks.... like Cletus the slack jawed yokel"

Pesonally I love the show....great entertainment

Karnage · 15-09-2005, 05:35 PM

I can't stand harleys, but i must admit i like these creations and look at them more as art then a well engineered/designed motorcycle (anything with 5 feet of rake won't handle!!) and i haven't seen a great deal of the shows, one of the memerable ones that I have seen was the second "web bike" they made, all in all I admire the workmanship that goes into these bikes (i'm grouping all the shows in one here) and the comment about things just being tacked, in several of the shows "jnr" made reference to tacking all the peices into place until he was happy with the design, then passing it onto one of the other guys who was the welder/fabricator. I did se a few of the "rides" shows as well which showed tim allens hot rod that was custom built then when on to another show of the bloke who makes custom rod and cars......what can i say WOW!!!! makes me want to learn how to use an english wheel!! (and move to a country thats not so anal about car design regs)

XD-Machine · 15-09-2005, 06:56 PM

guys mikie makes the show, the dad does besides cry and the hardest worker is vini (the fat dude that does all the work)

chief · 15-09-2005, 07:05 PM

Mickey is funny.
I agree with you XD-Machine that Vinni does the most of the work and last week snr shouted at him on the gilette bike part 2.
Favourit bikes are:
the Comanchy,
Black Widow,
Fire bike and the mikcy and Vinni bike.

Rides is a great show. Especially when they feature Chip Foose the denominator workshop (fat guy with a f'd up voice and Moal.

Also monster garage. Just to see the stuff that they transform.

chippa6 · 15-09-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

I'd doubt they could *Engineer* a bike at all, I mean, those guys have trouble chewing gum and breathing at the same time or even tieing their shoelaces, let alone doing engineering calculations.....

Had the time to do? Jesse Rooke built his *entire* bike in the time alloted for the biker build off (7? days). The rules let you come into the show with the frame already built, he built his while the clock was ticking... Engineering stuff is not about "Having the time to do it", its about designing the stuff so you get it right (or very close to) first time out.

Ok so we have established that you,

A - are an engineer
B - Obviously don't like OCC and prefer Biker Build off.

Obviously a few others as well as myself on here don't understand the definition of engineering to what you do for that my apologies.

Still love the show OCC - and if I could "Hack" as well as they do I wouldn't give a toss if it was called engineering or not, cause I'd have too much money to care !

Chippa

Stevo · 15-09-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammaboy

Engineering? None of that there son. They assemble bikes and then tack stuff onto them to make them different. .....

wtf ? Your way off.

Racecraft · 16-09-2005, 02:35 AM

If anyone saw last nights effort, they wanted to notch a chrome moly frame in half to fit the engine on an 8 sec drag bike... Nice work guys ...rofl Even when the expert told them it would be dangerous they still wanted to do it.. they are fabricators not engineers and last nights episode prove Gammaboy right