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I rode in a relatively new Mazda 6 Wagon last night and what a disappointong vehicle.
The ride was harsh and the engine noise in the cabin was loud. Compared to the Mondeo Wagon I rode in a few months ago which was quiet with a nice ride. Mazda should employ hire some European Ford Engineers. |
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Horses for courses and numbers don’t align by the general public to yours Franco.
My wife is on her 2nd post zoom zoom Mazda and can’t fault it. My sister has had 4 new Mazdas on the bounce zoom zoom and post never a prob but reliable motoring ownership. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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No issues from any of them except my idler pulley on the CX5 and CV axle on the SP23 with 270k on the clock, oh and a clutch. Yes, they do have a bit of road noise but at least everything works, not continually replacing door handles, window regulators etc like Fords.
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On my first Mazda 3, so far so good. I had an issue with the dealer fitted Mazda towbar but that was replaced and all good now.
It’s a sedan (2.5 litre auto) so quiet-as compared to my previous three cars, all of which were hatches. Solid axle rear end lets the handling down slightly but it is perfectly fine for the way I drive, most of the time. My daughter in law has an older 2, it’s had a few issues (it was made in Thailand) and an expensive new battery plus the airbox broke a mount (plus it had a weird plumbing issue causing an over-revving problem) but both of these were fixed reasonably easy…and given the lack of preventive maintenance the car experiences probably no great surprise. My son just bought a CX5, no issues so far… |
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From a cosmetic point of view, the quality isn't as good as I expected but it does its job, getting from a->b. We've also got a post "zoom zoom" era CX5 (2017), again without jinxing it, mechanically good, quality inside and out is generations ahead of the 3 we have, it's just a nice car to be in. I couldn't care less about the on limit handling of it, we didn't buy it for that but it handles OK for a SUV. I think the only faults I have with it are the entertainment system is running on a processor harvested from a 286 PC and the 2.5l 4 cylinder is a bit thirsty. Both are cheap as chips to service too.
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About a year ago the air conditioner in our 2017 CX-5 stopped working. Turns out the evaporator sensor was faulty. It was a $50 component. No problems, except the quote to fix required over $1800 of work to disassemble the dash back to the firewall to get to the buried sensor. Galling part is that the sensor was a known problem across a number of Mazda models since 2012 and was only addressed in 2018 by a trivial modification. Around the same time, the entertainment display developed the "ghost input" problem, were the touch sensor was generating unprompted inputs. Not a real problem as such, except that the computer's voice prompt would start incessantly chatting with each ghost input. Quote to fix the display was an additional $1500. Far out, $3.3k in repairs for a lightly used CX-5. While arguing for an out of warrantee fix, we had a look at replacement CX-5 or CX-60. CX-5 was more of the same, and I had no confidence that we weren't going to get a repeat of the problems. And the Dealer really lowballed us on the existing CX-5 trade in. The CX-60 was a disappointment. Sure, luxury feel inside. But exceptionally harsh ride and snatchy drivetrain in an auto. (And people criticise 4WD for having a harsh ride - go try out a CX-60.) Anyway, Mazda came to the party and fixed the vehicle as a gesture of good will. (Maybe helped along by loosing a class action Federal Court case a few weeks earlier on warranty problems.) But, putting the warranty concerns to one side, a replacement vehicle for the CX-5 wouldn't have been another Mazda. More likely a Rav4. It certainly will be interesting to see how Mazda engineers tune the suspension on the next CX-5. However, with all of the above said, apparently total Mazda sales in the USA are up 15% over last year. |
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Tested base 2wd CX5 and was expecting zoom, zoom. Found it disappointing in terms of how the transmission responded, how it handled, and definitely felt like a front wheel drive with the odd grip weirdness. But that's just me. Their fit and finish was great, cars like the new 3 look gorgeous inside, they have really done well there. There's much promise with their new I6 engines and RWD/AWD setup, hope they can refine it into what it is capable of.
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ofcourse they are I like to see that you think your right hahaha
Further posts back up mine - A to B they do the job and not ott in servicing costs dpending going to a dealer and you can do better with a Independant. It all relative what suits and your likes, I didn't like the wifes '18 CX5 sportmax handling, sure wasn't firm I find it soft/sloppy but to her she wouldn't know the diff and thats the high % consumer. Daughter inlaw had the early 2, that kermit green one many used to see on the roads, had from new, hardly missed a beat over 200thou k's. Wife's new (only 2mths old) CX-30 Astina, got to say even I don't mind driving it, gutless for me but A to B and handling is very acceptable. Being Astina its got mags/low profiles - so ride to some would be considered firm but don't think the wife tells the diff LOL but its a rippa car and the finish full leather etc is very good. You have the same mindset towards your ol mans i30. You just don't like the cars it seems whereas as you know my son has the previous gen i30N manual coupe - we think its great car. Anyway your going all EV soon enough one day by many of your posts here there whilst many will stick with these pretty good and reliable ice machines that still do the job for the majority. Its all good Franco ![]()
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Had a 2012 Mazda2 manual for 2.5yrs now, bought it with 95k on it, about to click over 120k, been faultless.
Had a slight miss at idle when we bought it which made getting it off the line difficult at times, particularly with A/C on, and I suspect the reason the previous owner moved it on as they'd all but burnt the clutch out riding it off the line to avoid stalling from the miss. Been meaning to replace the clutch ever since but still going and the miss has now disappeared permenantly after giving it a good 2.5hr run at highway speeds, obviously had been used lightly over the 10yrs they had it and needed a good workout. Been quoted $800 for a clutch which I'll get around to at some point. |
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We had a 2018 CX5 AWD for 5 years, mainly the wife's car, but I drove it as well. I couldn't fault it, apart from not having a turbo charger for some extra punch, but it wasn't a race car, and never intended to be. Nothing went wrong with it in the 100K driving we did, comfortable and drove well. Service charges were cheap because she worked at a dealership.
It's been replaced with a 2023 Santa Fe Hybrid, but I'd get another Mazda for her if she wanted. Service charges are still good, because she's retained her contacts in the Service Department.
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BIL and his wife have a 2021 CX-9, purchased about the same time we got our Tucson and from what ive heard its been faultless. It replaced his wifes Mazda 3 and i believe their family have had Mazdas for years.
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I owned a Mazda 6 (MY15 Touring Diesel sedan) for 2.5 years/70k km and it was a great car. Not a single issue, well built and rode fine. My mother has had a CX-3 since 2016. Its now just crossed 200k km and again its been perfect. not one single issue (apart from her running into stuff). Its about to be replaced with a CX-30 G25 Astina. And they still do some decent colours. My 6, mums CX-3 and her new CX-30 are all Soul Red which is stunning, especially in the sun.
If we didnt need the extra utility of going off road, I would of bought the wife a CX-90 with the 6 pot petrol turbo instead of the Everest.
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B Daz, just got the CX-30Astina/sun roof for the wife, rippa daily for her A to B.
I'm impressed how good it feels and the leather 2tone interior looks great plus the seats very nice to sit in ! She went the pearl white, in the sun it pops, I agree good colour range that red I tried talking her into it but she's very conservative. The 6pot 60GT/90 really caught my eye I tell you, bang for buck imo. Anyday compared to the Everest for I don't need the daily for offroad.
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You think any other modern car couldn't do 200,000km/5 years old 'without issues'?
Toyota, Kia, Ford (lol remember when they made cars with unleaded engines), Hyundai, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Honda, Nissan, et al will all go the distance, if you actually look after it. Here's the odometer on our Mazda we had, this was pre zoom-zoom era, a 2003 Mazda 323 Astina Shades (BJII-J48) hatch: ![]() I learned to drive in this thing, I used to rip the *** out of it hardcore, I nearly threw it backwards off an embankment at over 100km/h on a gravel road once, It went 150,000km between oil changes, I pulled the sump off it once for lols: ![]() ![]() ![]() Towed heavy with it too: ![]() Toward the end of its life it used to burn so much oil that I'd wait until the oil light would come on when driving in the morning, then put only a liter in it because if you filled it up anymore it would do the Beijing olympics out the exhaust. It went to 429,000km before it spat its OEM clutch, the one it was fitted with on the production line. In 429,000km, it only received a few services, precisely one timing belt, new tyres, I put a set of shocks in it precisely once, and I did the alternator and starter motor, even though the OEM ones were fine. It did 7L/100km from the day it was new until the day it spat its clutch. It was the era when Mazda built great value for money cars, that were fun to drive, and they were robust to boot. They did in the 'zoom-zoom' era as well, and then something happened around 2014/2015 where they decided to start manufacturing white goods like Toyota. Now you put 5W40 in them instead of 5W30 and they bring up the engine light and have a sook about variable valve timing, The battery gets a little old and the stop/start functionality immediately stops working. The steering is devoid of all feel and the throttle response is like driving the 901 bus on its full route of 225 stops. Might as well as take away the pedal, and the steering wheel and replace them with a wired PSX controller without the joysticks and drive it with the D-pad, because thats about the feedback you get from Mazda's modern cars. Oh look, here's a Mazda I own thats over 20 years old. ![]() One of the last loads I put in the back was ~1200kg worth of tiles. I do get a laugh out of all the Mazda supporters here coming out talking up Mazda's praises with one, two, three, five year old cars with low mileage on them and its always my cousins sisters brother in laws uncles twice removed cousins grandma's car who drove it to church on Sundays with 120,000km on the clock. Or your wifes car, who drives to the shops and back, does the school run, and to work and back for 10,000km/year - real tough challenge on a car that one, I'm amazed a car operating in those severe conditions starts in the morning every morning and has been reliable ![]() 2.0/2.5L engines have been around for a while, they're not bad, but they don't particularly sit out from the rest of the competition - naturally aspirated engines in this day and age? Yikes, reeks of Toyota. When Mazda starts making proper cars again, let me know. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 17-01-2025 at 10:52 PM. |
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Your opinions online make me devalue what I've met with you in person Damo. I've pushed my wife's car hard, she's driven it normal, it's had no problems. I've not driven it like a juvenile stealing an M4 BMW for likes on Instagram, but I have mechanical sympathy. I know what I paid for the vehicle, I'll treat it as such... not try to destroy it.
If I buy a Raptor, should I put it over 6 foot jumps to see if the suspension holds?
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As for CX-90.. Prior to doing the deal on the Everest we actually had a CX-90 over the weekend for a longer test drive. Was the petrol Azami with the SP Pack (Tan Interior) which was the spec I was interested in. Was mid $90k on the road so not a stretch from Everest Platinum. Came away very impressed.. especially the interior being so far above the fit and finish of the Everest. Wifey and I had some long convo's on it. it was the 4wd thing that swung us to the Everest... I dont regret it as we have done a heap of beach days in it.
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Treating it knowing they've paid good money for it, not abusing it.
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LOL Franco's post its a beauty of a rant like screaming to the clouds for himself.
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I bought a BM Mazda3 SP25 GT back in 2014 new. (actually my first new car purchase)
It was a fantastic car, very comfortable, all the mod-cons. Beautiful to drive. Until one day, with barely 7k on the odo, I decided to check the oil. The dip stick came up dry. Went to the dealer to inform them, they topped it up and said come back at the next service. I checked it the morning before it went in for the 10k service and it had already dipped below the 'add' dot in the stick. What followed was a 'consumption test' over the next 5-8k of driving. Service tech said it was 'within tolerance' because if you really look into the depths of the vehicle operating manual it says that 1 liter/1000km of oil consumption is ok. I've never had a car use so much oil, all my previous cars never required topping up at all, even after 300k of driving. I'm guessing it was just a dud car, because our extended family has at least 7 Mazda's currently (some up to 20 years old) and none of them use oil. It hasn't put me off buying another Mazda (we still have a BK currently, uses no oil at all with 220k on the clock), but certainly made me more cautious.
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As some of you already know I have 2022 Mazda CX5 turbo petrol. I have found it to be excellent. torque and power where you need it. Hardly any lag. Reliable.
Downsides are servicing costs with Mazda are a little high. Fuel economy can be high if you are heavy footed. Im averaging between 9-5-10.5L/100km on 98 fuel. The car can run on 91 without issue though so I can save a bit there. But considering I work from home, I'm not that concerned about the fuel economy. I also tend to service the car before the scheduled servicing periods (Mazda schedule is 10,000km or 12 months, whatever comes first). If you keep on top of the servicing and look after the car, you'll have years of pleasant motoring. PS - I am actually looking at the 2024-2025 Mazda CX60 Azami as one of the short listed cars to replace the CX5 when the time comes. The thought of the inline 6 with some thick amounts of torque sounds very appealing. Waiting on the 2025 update to be released in the next month or so before I make a decision. I need to get my head around the 48V mild hybrid portion of the drivetrain though.
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Re: the oil consumption, back in the mid 2000's I came across 'Motoman's Break in Secrets' and found the photo evidence so compelling, I decided to follow it to the letter when breaking in our new 2007 Territory.
I can say 17 years later, it consumed no oil whatsoever for the majority of it's life. It consumed a quarter of a litre during our last - and it's final - run from Vic to Perth in 2022, the first time ever it consumed oil. Motor is unopened, 342,000km, 10+ Nullarbor trips, and the car has been put out to pasture now to be cleaned up and cared for, and the motor still works. This is a controversial method, because it is completely opposite to what most manufacturers recommend. Much like the greatest book of the 20th century, Weston A. Price's remarkable "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" (read this if you haven't had kids yet); the proof is in the photo's. I remember the joy of going through a quarter of a tank of fuel in 5 minutes with our brand new car, doing the Motoman break in properly - I felt like a complete madman. Here is the link, get ready to go back to the early 2000s web page design. http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm This is really a separate forum thread topic - be interested to hear all your views after considering this, as I look up to many of you mechanical legends.
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Yer bud good read and the CX5 T was a good choice ! Yes I rate the CX60 very much I’m going to try it out one day as well. Servicing I don’t think it’s ott for the brand - it’s no falcon simple service of back in the day. They like most general volume car dealers now try to be a suedo type of euro service outlook - fancy showrooms service depts coffee machines waiting rooms rides to stations or whatever so your service costs cover their outgoings more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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My break in approach with new vehicles was once engine warm, accelerate full throttle in 2nd, 3rd, 4th up steep hills, decelerate, full throttle again up hills. After 5 minutes a few sessions of full revving out.
Then drop the oil at 150 km, then 500, then 1000, then every 7,500. Both Ford engines broken in this way have been very strong. About Mazda, my daughters Hyundai I30 blew cylinder 4, rings apparently get glued in with poor maintenance. Poor girl blew top dollar on the car during Covid, second hand. Went to Sydney today, she bought a Mazda 2. I suggested it as no turbo, no supercharger, for simplicity. A Camshaft timing chain. Only issue is direct injection with carbon build up. But word on street is using good oil, good fuel and few country spirited runs Mazda have no issues. Anyway, bought a 2022 model with 34,000 k on clock, drove real well compared to some others. Driving back to Newcastle, myself in my ST and her in the Mazda, she did an Italian tune when jockeying along the freeway with me, and boy, the smile on her face when she hopped out at home. I was impressed at the pace and handling in that little car along the freeway. I think the Mazda 2 is a good little car, that is rather fun.
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But the 2.5T has been excellent and Im hoping the CX60 inline 6's will be just as good if not better. From the reviews Ive seen and read, they are saying the diesel inline 6 variant is possible slightly better than the petrol version. According to Paul from CarExpert, he tested them both back to back and reckons the diesel was a better allrounder. My only concern is DPF issues but I havent read anyone complaining about that yet.
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