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Old 09-12-2016, 12:41 PM   #1
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Now that our Facon is gone, we are left with the damn Mondeo as the "large" car offer. Why dont the blue oval get serious and bring in the Taurus SHO?

3.5 litre V6 turbo, AWD. It would be a hoot.
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:37 PM   #2
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Here we go again haha
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Old 09-12-2016, 02:57 PM   #3
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It will be discontinued in the US in a couple years won't it? It sells in tiny numbers there.
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It will be discontinued in the US in a couple years won't it? It sells in tiny numbers there.
The Taurus is a very rare sight in the US. Every second car is either an F-truck or Mustang of some description. Mondeo/Fusion is a very distant second/third in numbers. Localised Korean and Jap Junk like Camry, Optima a hell of a lot of Hyundais floating around. Once in a blue moon , you will spot a Monaro or a VE Commodore and the occasional Mitsubishi Magna tottering around in bad shape.
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LHD only
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:56 PM   #6
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just for reference, in September:
F-series 67,809
escape 25,065
fusion 20,570

and Sept YTD
F-series 595,656
Escape 234,764
Fusion 210,462

total Ford sales in the US Sept YTD is 1.9 million cars. Total Oz new car sales of all brands is ~1m. thats why we don't get nice toys to play with
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:26 AM   #7
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I think a better solution firstly is to have the Fed Government put our ADR requirements inline with US or EU regs apart from anything that is absolutely necessary from a safety viewpoint that would be a must in Australia. Can't think of anything here ...that way importers are freed up to bring in anything meeting established standards having already complied overseas. We get much greater choice, importers don' have to spend a fortune compliancing every model variation and the cost to importers is reduced enormously.
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Now that our Facon is gone, we are left with the damn Mondeo as the "large" car offer. Why dont the blue oval get serious and bring in the Taurus SHO?

3.5 litre V6 turbo, AWD. It would be a hoot.
G'day ..I read somewhere recently that the Taurus averages a bit less than 3000 per month . So, 35-36,000 a year in the huge US.market is actually worse per capita than the Falcon in Australia.. As already mentioned the other Ford offerings kills it probably the same reasons as Falcon suffered here.
Very capable car as mention in V6 Twin Turbo guise Here's a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EHeDa7mb3U&t=80s ..
There is no RHD platform anyway so we'll never get it and it's also reported that the sales ,or lack there of , means a very doubtful future in the US too..
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Taurus is not coming here.

America is loosing it too.

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I would rather have a Fusion Sport
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This is the first I've heard the US is also losing the Taurus.. What will the Cops do then?
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This is the first I've heard the US is also losing the Taurus.. What will the Cops do then?
They could have China produce the Interceptors and import them over.
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They could have China produce the Interceptors and import them over.
Or use Chargers
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If they wouldn't import Falcons from Australia, there is no way in hell they would import from China.
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I don't see why not, other than something like Trump sticking his nose in it. Chinese built Gen7 Taurus Interceptors will still share parts and commonality with Explorer and their Lincoln spin off's that the US will see.
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This is the first I've heard the US is also losing the Taurus.. What will the Cops do then?
Large percentage of cops cars are Explorers. They look damned good too. The rest are dodge challengers.
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Large percentage of cops cars are Explorers. They look damned good too. The rest are dodge challengers.
They use Chargers (probably what you meant?), Tahoes, and Caprices too. I wonder if they will start using the next generation Expedition when it hits the streets, I think late next year.
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If they wouldn't import Falcons from Australia, there is no way in hell they would import from China.
G'day , I remember reading on AFF about the Falcons briefly touted as US cop cars but was that the Turbo , the V8 or both...Didn't happen of course but I'm trying to picture a LHD kitted out Falcon in police trim..Interesting thought..
Maybe a Ford FPV and Holden HSV should have pitched the Falcon and Commodore to a specialist market here too just for emergency services vehicles specifically..
I think that in the US a cop car is a cop car for a lot longer or for life ,not like here where it's pensioned off at fairly low clicks and re sold to Joe Bloggs later on.
Horses for courses I expect..different countries , different ways of doing it.
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In USA gossip circles, the current Taurus is tipped for the chopping block. However, just to confuse us, there is an all-new CD4 based Taurus which China gets but no one else does incl the USA.
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So "One Ford" working wonders then....................
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Well...it is...

The new Taurus is a on the same platform as the Mondeo...as are 5 other models...plus a further 4 coming soon.

That's what one ford is...
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Well...it is...

The new Taurus is a on the same platform as the Mondeo...as are 5 other models...plus a further 4 coming soon.

That's what one ford is...
Yeah I know, just hard to see some markets get specific models, especially ones that might do well here.
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I think a better solution firstly is to have the Fed Government put our ADR requirements inline with US or EU regs
EU maybe, but US regs with the silly minimum area of indicator lights would mean the end of scrolling/sequential indicators, and we might even get flashing brake lights as indicators - amber is not a mandated colour for indicators. Oh, and those awful amber front marker lights.
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Some cars in Australia already have orange marker lights in the front. I like the odd car with it, but if every car had them it would lose its novelty.
Taillights as indicators is stupid. I can't see the benefit apart from having one less globe.
It's weird driving around the US seeing all the regular Euros we see in Australia, but with red indicators.
As for scrolling indicators, if that is what I think it is,they do that have them in the US.
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Some cars in Australia already have orange marker lights in the front. I like the odd car with it, but if every car had them it would lose its novelty.
Taillights as indicators is stupid. I can't see the benefit apart from having one less globe.
It's weird driving around the US seeing all the regular Euros we see in Australia, but with red indicators.
As for scrolling indicators, if that is what I think it is,they do that have them in the US.
That's funny you mention that. I was there for a month and hardly noticed. The scrolling ones did stand out though!
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Yeah I know, just hard to see some markets get specific models, especially ones that might do well here.
I think Ford is still in transition Globally to One-Ford, we will of course see a new generation of cars here in the next couple of years, I expect the Generation after that to be more Global.

large SUV's & utes/trucks still seems to be divided though.

Asia Pacific get Everest/Ranger US keep F series Explorer expedition etc, I also see Ranger single cabs advertised in the UK.
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America get the F series because of the volume and money thay make...and you can't import pick-up trucks into america...
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And they're getting Ranger for 2018, which looking at the timeline will probably be at least an all new body.
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No matter how good a car, tiny sales figures do not a profitable car make...

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America get the F series because of the volume and money thay make...and you can't import pick-up trucks into america...
Until you can give the Yanks a "pickup truck" that can be sold for a bit over $25,000, the size and power of an F150 (or Dodge Ram, etc), then nothing will change with their buying habits.
There's a reason F150's are sold in such ludicrous numbers over there (and it's linked to why it would never work here in profitable numbers)..."Stupidly cheap trucks"...go look at the prices on Ford, Dodge, or Chevrolets truck websites, and cry when you see what they can buy for the prices...

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No matter how good a car, tiny sales figures do not a profitable car make...


Until you can give the Yanks a "pickup truck" that can be sold for a bit over $25,000, the size and power of an F150 (or Dodge Ram, etc), then nothing will change with their buying habits...
...and change their protective legislation...
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