Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party Candidate : Speed Cameras are Ineffective..

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"Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party candidate, motorcycle crash widow and passionate rider Judith Kuerschner says speed cameras are ineffective.

“A speed camera is completely ineffective in stopping the fatality that may occur several minutes after a vehicle has sped past. It’s like smacking a dog on the nose for pooping on your lawn two weeks after the fact,” says Judith whose husband died in a motorcycle crash.

Judith, who rides a Can-Am Spyder F3 and is running for the Senate in South Australia, says AMEP advocates for the acknowledgement of motorcyclists, particularly in the area of vulnerability and in the promotion of motorcycles as economical and environmentally friendly transport."
http://motorbikewriter.com/candidate...s-ineffective/

[Cav]

In NSW speed and red light camera raise more than $1/2 million a day.

I'd rather that than an increase in GST.

[csv8]

Originally Posted by Cav

In NSW speed and red light camera raise more than $1/2 million a day.

I'd rather that than an increase in GST.

Further proof that the cameras are nothing more than revenue raisers disguised as road safety.
Scotland is now sending out a warning notice , if over by no more than 5km/hr.

[DRU842]

There are some other important messages in the article:
" Judith is a strong supporter of improvements to both driver and rider education and training, with national consistency a priority in both road-user training and in road rules.

She says minimising government interference is a key value for the motoring enthusiast and motorcycling community, particularly the over-reliance by governments on speed cameras rather than visible policing to regulate road use and, allegedly, reduce road crashes and fatalities."

[neptune blue]

Motoring enthusiast party are a bunch of muppets that will never be able to make changes to road rules, speed camera's, price of fuel, cost of registration etc , but are happy to be elected to the senate and collect $300k + a year to feather their own nests , pay off their mortgages and in the process do nothing.

Spare me the bull **** please

[Sabantien]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Motoring enthusiast party are a bunch of muppets that will never be able to make changes to road rules, speed camera's, price of fuel, cost of registration etc , but are happy to be elected to the senate and collect $300k + a year to feather their own nests , pay off their mortgages and in the process do nothing.

Spare me the bull **** please

I'm happy to do that too. I might run next election.

[xtremerus]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Motoring enthusiast party are a bunch of muppets that will never be able to make changes to road rules, speed camera's, price of fuel, cost of registration etc , but are happy to be elected to the senate and collect $300k + a year to feather their own nests , pay off their mortgages and in the process do nothing.

Spare me the bull **** please

So tell me which other current party stands up for motorist to push for changes that you mention?????

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Motoring enthusiast party are a bunch of muppets that will never be able to make changes to road rules, speed camera's, price of fuel, cost of registration etc , but are happy to be elected to the senate and collect $300k + a year to feather their own nests , pay off their mortgages and in the process do nothing.

Spare me the bull **** please

I think you could summarise up all political parties (especially the two majors) with that comment.

But you'd rather a bunch of Ricky Muirs representing us than some professional politician who has inherrited Daddies business from him or has been a lawyer/QC for the past 20 years before being elected.

At least Ricky knows what its like to be the average joe and out of work, he has a connection to us and some grounding in the real world.

Not some right or left wing extremeist who is the byproduct of todays universities or multinational companies.

[Bill M]

Have a look at Senator Muir's activities, can you find another politician doing this with his passion for things automotive?

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorRickyMuir/

http://www.senatormuir.org.au/news

http://medialaunch.com.au/media-rele...s-at-warragul-

Cheers
Bill

[FPV+fteT3]

We have Rob Bryden a member of my Lotus club running for NSW senate on the Motoring Enthusiast Party ticket. He's a car guy and a Lawyer perhaps you have heard of Brydens compensation lawyers? Rob built the business and sold it years ago to concentrate on his cars both race and historic types he would add some legal knowledge to the AMEP not to mention he is a car tragic. He is in complete agreement on the revenue cameras at least all their party agree on something and say the same thing.

[Cav]

Well that's it for me. Like a bloody fool I watched the debate. Well it wasn't a debate, just two old dog tired has been politicians giving answers they had prepared regardless of the question that was asked.

What a choice. Two men who have both knifed sitting Prime Ministers because they believed they would be better to lead Australia and ignoring the wishes of we the people. If we don't like our politicians it is we who get rid of them.

Boy, have I got some news for Malcolm and Bill. Neither of you will get my vote. It's time we the people took a stand and send a message to these losers that we need people of substance, principles and morality to lead our nation - not a bunch of back stabbing spin merchants who are in it for themselves.

[neptune blue]

Originally Posted by xtremerus

So tell me which other current party stands up for motorist to push for changes that you mention?????

None

None of the major parties give a toss about us
And the muppets from the Motor enthusiast party can't influence the government

Did anyone's rego reduce because if Ricky's efforts ?
Anyone see any speed cameras come down?
Has he solved the fuel company collusion ?

They won't have and will never have the numbers

That's the unfortunate truth cos their aint enough of us

[neptune blue]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

I think you could summarise up all political parties (especially the two majors) with that comment.

But you'd rather a bunch of Ricky Muirs representing us than some professional politician who has inherrited Daddies business from him or has been a lawyer/QC for the past 20 years before being elected.

At least Ricky knows what its like to be the average joe and out of work, he has a connection to us and some grounding in the real world.

Not some right or left wing extremeist who is the byproduct of todays universities or multinational companies.

Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

We have Rob Bryden a member of my Lotus club running for NSW senate on the Motoring Enthusiast Party ticket. He's a car guy and a Lawyer perhaps you have heard of Brydens compensation lawyers? Rob built the business and sold it years ago to concentrate on his cars both race and historic types he would add some legal knowledge to the AMEP not to mention he is a car tragic. He is in complete agreement on the revenue cameras at least all their party agree on something and say the same thing.

Damo , here's the thing. Politicians may start out as wanting to change the world but the gravy train system they become apart of sucks most of them in and they just become another parasite with their hand out milking their position for whatever they can

Politicians of the last 15 years have been useless. Given the changes in the way the senate ballot is now done, its unlikely that the motor enthusiast party is going to expand . In fact I think its the end for them

[neptune blue]

Originally Posted by FPV+fteT3

We have Rob Bryden a member of my Lotus club running for NSW senate on the Motoring Enthusiast Party ticket. He's a car guy and a Lawyer perhaps you have heard of Brydens compensation lawyers? Rob built the business and sold it years ago to concentrate on his cars both race and historic types he would add some legal knowledge to the AMEP not to mention he is a car tragic. He is in complete agreement on the revenue cameras at least all their party agree on something and say the same thing.

Cameras are here to stay. Governments are too addicted to the revenue. Doesn't mater how smart he is or how fast he can drive . He'd better not drive too fast or he will get pinged by a camera

[neptune blue]

Originally Posted by Bill M

Have a look at Senator Muir's activities, can you find another politician doing this with his passion for things automotive?

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorRickyMuir/

http://www.senatormuir.org.au/news

http://medialaunch.com.au/media-rele...s-at-warragul-

Cheers
Bill

Media releases and statements pfft. When I was working at TTS you could paper the walls with them. They have to been "seen"as doing something. I'd do it for 3 years and then get booted out. It would set me up nicely.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Damo , here's the thing. Politicians may start out as wanting to change the world but the gravy train system they become apart of sucks most of them in and they just become another parasite with their hand out milking their position for whatever they can

Politicians of the last 15 years have been useless. Given the changes in the way the senate ballot is now done, its unlikely that the motor enthusiast party is going to expand . In fact I think its the end for them

Here's an idea, remove the gravy train and all of the perks that end up costing the taxpayer millions. Only then will the political system not attract failed lawyers and other miscreants out to line their pockets. As the push won't come from those in the various houses of parliament, this needs to be put to a direct vote of the people because as it stands, a low quality system attracts low quality candidates.

[Crazy Dazz]

And we wonder why, in so many peoples' minds, "Motoring Enthusiast" equates to "Bong-toting Bogan."

[ltd]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Motoring enthusiast party are a bunch of muppets that will never be able to make changes to road rules, speed camera's, price of fuel, cost of registration etc , but are happy to be elected to the senate and collect $300k + a year to feather their own nests , pay off their mortgages and in the process do nothing.

Spare me the bull **** please

Agreed. Ricky Bobby has been an absolute fizzer in the same vein as Lord Bouncy Waffle of Wentworth.
Didn't Ricky Bobby vote to increase indexation on fuel? Some motoring enthusiast.

[Sorted]

They putting them up EVERYWHERE in Victoria

The just put a new set up at Maroondah Highway & Mount Dandenong Road/Eastlink Entry Ringwood WTF - I have not seen 1 accident there.

Pre-commissioned camera locations

When a fixed camera is installed, it undergoes thorough testing before it starts to issue fines. During this period, the camera is said to be “pre-commissioned”. Pre-commissioned cameras will operate as normal, and may flash if a car speeds through an intersection or runs a red light, but no fines will be issued.

The following locations currently have pre-commissioned cameras:
Intersection of Springvale Road and Canterbury Road, Forest Hill
Intersection of Narre Warren North Road and Ernst ****e Road, Narre Warren
Intersection of Maroondah Highway and Ringwood Bypass, Ringwood
Intersection of Maroondah Highway and Mount Dandenong Road, Ringwood
Intersection of Plenty Road and Dunne Street, Kingsbury
Intersection of Plenty Road and Kingsbury Drive, Bundoora
Intersection of Canterbury Road and Mitcham Road, Vermont
Intersection of McIvor Road and Reservoir Road, Strathdale
Intersection of Brighton Road and Glen Eira Road, Ripponlea (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of North Road and Clayton Road, Oakleigh East (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Nepean Highway and Centre Road, Brighton East (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Barkers Road and Glenferrie Road, Hawthorn (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Murray Road and Elizabeth Street, Coburg (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Pascoe Vale Road and Peck Avenue, Strathmore (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Thompson Road and Separation Street, Bell Park (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Princes Highway and Purnell Road, Corio (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Settlement Road and Torquay Street, Belmont (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Moorabool Street and Fyans Street, South Geelong (upgrade from wet-film camera)
Intersection of Francis Street and Wembley Avenue, Yarraville (upgrade from wet-film camera)

[neptune blue]

The unfortunate state of the road toll in Vic is proof that speed camera's do not work. During the time when they did reduce the road toll, the politicians and police were sprooking the benefits. Its all gone very quiet and they are still installing them by stealth

You do all realise that state governments have a revenue budget for speeding fines . If that isn't revenue raising, then what is ??

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

Media releases and statements pfft. When I was working at TTS you could paper the walls with them. They have to been "seen"as doing something. I'd do it for 3 years and then get booted out. It would set me up nicely.

Ok thanks for the input.

[cheap]

Originally Posted by Bill M

Have a look at Senator Muir's activities, can you find another politician doing this with his passion for things automotive?

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorRickyMuir/

http://www.senatormuir.org.au/news

http://medialaunch.com.au/media-rele...s-at-warragul-

Cheers
Bill

Your links to Ricky are gold!

Ricky seems to have spent considerable effort supporting cows and milk

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by cheap

Your links to Ricky are gold!

Ricky seems to have spent considerable effort supporting cows and milk

How many years later, after voting 1 for AMEP, and Labour/Libs/Greens last, I still have to put up with pathetic 100/110kph limits in the middle of nowhere. Really wondering is it that hard to make a change or are these people in political parties just there to get themselves a better life in the name of some random cause that would gain voting numbers

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by cheap

Your links to Ricky are gold!

Ricky seems to have spent considerable effort supporting cows and milk

As expected in a rural seat

[zipping]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Not some right or left wing extremeist who is the byproduct of todays universities or multinational companies.

This is a misconception that you see everywhere. People connected to multinationals are not right wing. They love government becuase governments put in place the red tape through regulations that protect big busainess from competition. Big business by definition are big government supporters they love the left.

[mike_nofx]

Originally Posted by Cav

In NSW speed and red light camera raise more than $1/2 million a day.

I'd rather that than an increase in GST.

I agree with this. If speed cameras were banned as of today where would they get that extra $1/2m from? I'd rather those silly enough to get caught be the ones to pay.

[Sabantien]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

How many years later, after voting 1 for AMEP, and Labour/Libs/Greens last, I still have to put up with pathetic 100/110kph limits in the middle of nowhere. Really wondering is it that hard to make a change or are these people in political parties just there to get themselves a better life in the name of some random cause that would gain voting numbers

How hard for one person from one minor party to make a change? Bloody impossible.

You need to have the majority in both houses, or you need to do some sweet deals.

Quite honestly, no one is going to put the speed limits up. As soon as anyone does and someone dies, the opposition (whichever party) will begin the witch hunt. They're too afraid.

[kennyboy]

The federal senate cannot change state laws, its the states that are responsible for speed limits and cameras

[Trump]

The fact that such discussions are even happening is proof enough that the entire governmental system is broken beyond repair. Time to reboot, format the hard drive to remove Govco v198.0.8373.83, install Common Sense 1.0 and turn off automatic updates.

[FGX008]

Originally Posted by kennyboy

The federal senate cannot change state laws, its the states that are responsible for speed limits and cameras

So true, but the Feds can use economic reform levers such as providing access to the States to get an allocation of tied infrastructure funding to get things changed. It's pretty amazing what the States will do for half a billion dollars or more or less even when it comes with mandatory conditions. Just saying.

Cheers, Brent