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20-07-2011, 04:39 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Trawling Ebay seeing what was there, and came across these two very fishy auctions.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Bron...item25658d4d67 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Bron...item45fbdee22b Methinks someone has seen the internet pictures of people who had been "caught" not reading an auction completely and are trying t catch smeone out themselves in a bidding war. In one memorable instance, bidding hundreds of dollars on an X-Box 360 box...no XBox, just the empty box it came in. Hidden in the fine print was a note saying "Reminder, this is just for the empty box", but you had to really read it well to see it. |
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20-07-2011, 05:01 PM
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Regular Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Using Ebay to get interest for the Bronco's without having to deal with Ebay's charges.
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20-07-2011, 05:02 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Its still fraud and misleading... items reported.
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20-07-2011, 05:18 PM
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BOSS Pilot
Join Date: Sep 2005
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theres quite a few wrecking yards that advertise on ebay like that, can't really see a problem with it as it clearly states in big letters that its only for a wheel nut
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20-07-2011, 05:26 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
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Its called misleading..... the add contains pictures of the F truck, and a description of the truck.
I can see why they want to circumvent eBays fees, but some bidders may not bother to read it all and think they just bought an F series vehicles.
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20-07-2011, 05:26 PM
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Regular Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Brisbane
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good way of wrecking cars, brought a few parts for my patrol of a guy selling like that. still does to, cheap way to advertise
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20-07-2011, 05:31 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sausage Singlet NSW
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Sounds like he's got a couple of loose wheel nuts in his head to me, you still need to pay the eBay listing fees regardless of whether or not you sell the item you're advertising.
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20-07-2011, 06:03 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane
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You do not bid on the item, contact details are provided in the ads to contact the vendor for enquiries. Granted they are noobs with regards to the descriptions and category placement but savvy enough to save $8 while utilising the best (once you get past the unintuitive input framework) advertising medium currently available. Ebay will do bugger all about it. |
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20-07-2011, 07:02 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I dont think it is fraud or misleading at all. It makes it clear at the top of the page and again in big bold letters below that the auction is for a $1.00 or higher offer bolt. It advertises some other stuff the guy has for sale.
The test is an objective one, would a reasonable person see a picture of a car and not read bold writing and think they are buying a car, no, a stupid person yes, but that is not the test. Breach of Ebay advertising rules - potentially, fraud or misleading - definitely not, innovative - yes |
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20-07-2011, 07:10 PM
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Regular Schmuck
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I've got to go with misleading.
Yes, I can clearly see two entries for an alternate auction for Broncos, but a cursory glance doesn't immediately make it apparent it's an auction for a single bolt. An auction isn't a place to advertise another auction. It's a place to advertise clearly what it is you are trying to sell. |
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20-07-2011, 07:38 PM
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Landau Tragic
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sydney
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I have no problems with ads like that for the most part. I have done similar myself in the past. Though i have been clearer with my description. The trouble with FEEbay, is that the only option is auction, buy it now or classified format. The buy it now and auction format will usually cost you at least 2 bucks an ad, even for a 20 dollar item. Then you pay a final fee if it sells. Then you pay a fee to paypal for the 20 bucks and postage when someone uses that option. So you end up giving FEEbay 25% of your sale. Not only that, if you list 20 items at 2 bucks a pop, and only one sells, then you owe FEEbay around 43 bucks and get 20 in return. Which really sucks, particularly if your stuff is reasonably cheap to begin with. Believe me, i have been stung before. The other alternative with the classified ad will also cost you around 28 bucks. Again, a rip off if no one wants anything. However, these kinds of ads can find your buyers, at which point you can then make a listing for them, pay the appropriate listing fee, and then you don't get stuck spending hours writing ads and paying fees for nothing.
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20-07-2011, 07:42 PM
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Done heaps of times .... as stated above, good way of advertising cheap and the cars are most probably already sold at no cost to seller and hassle free to the buyer.
If any one gets caught by an add worded like that thinking they are getting a complete car, well it would be their own stupid fault. Number 1 rule on buying? Read the BIG print first and then work your way to the small print. Totally not misleading. Bit like saying .... "SECOND HAND car for sale" then having a whinge because its not new.!
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20-07-2011, 08:13 PM
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Not misleading at all, add clearly states what you are bidding on in large print. Anyone that thinks they are getting the car is roo stupid to use ebay.
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so a good way to expose the vehicle to people where the potential buyer will contact the seller and ebay misses out on the fees. Poor buggers!
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20-07-2011, 08:24 PM
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The first description says in big red capital letters "PLEASE NOTE!!"
The second one says in the title at the top of the page Quote:
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20-07-2011, 08:32 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
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The only thing that bugs me about ebay are the titles like..."XA Falcon - Not XM/XP/XR/XT/XW/XY/XB/XC".....thanks Sherlock and thanks for wasting my time!
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21-07-2011, 10:44 AM
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"BA Falcon MkI XT ex-taxi may suit XM/XP/XR/XT/XW/XY/XB/XC/XD/XE/XF/GT buyer" |
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21-07-2011, 03:03 PM
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21-07-2011, 04:27 PM
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Not FPV, Not HSV lol... boom! |
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21-07-2011, 11:11 PM
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Piston Broke
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seymour, Vic
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The amount of XD-E-F-G-H etc. you find when you search for XA/B/C on eBay is ridiculous. I've saw one that was like "Not XW/XY/XA/XB/XC/XD/XE/XF BUT IS XG!".
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21-07-2011, 11:15 PM
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let it burn
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At least they state 'not FPV' or whatever, I remember looking for XA-C exterior door handles and seeing after market XD-F handles listed for XC. Apparently even the box says it suits XC.
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21-07-2011, 11:29 PM
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Was quite funny hearing the seller try and justify what she was doing, and Judy ripped her a new one accordingly. The listings with multiple models in the titles irritate me too. I can see what they're doing, but if I'm interested in parts for a BA, then X series parts aren't any good to me, so it's just wasting time.
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21-07-2011, 11:53 PM
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22-07-2011, 12:03 AM
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Size it up
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Don't forget, however mundane and base model the part is you have to add GT to the description.
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22-07-2011, 12:48 AM
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Piston Broke
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Yeah man! This window winder is GT spec! And this XB tail light is definately XY GTHO spec! Read the title!
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22-07-2011, 04:45 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Yeah annoying as that is,and its gets real annoying Its also a great way for finding that illusive part for another project Using the power of the search engine Works great for the seller and the buyer Same as checking sellers other items for sale Always do that as well Its alot better than , buying the trader,weekend paper Jumping in the rig,driven for ages,and whats for sale isnt whats advertised Or that rust free one owner car Is something even sims metal would reject Seen a hubcap the other day on evilbay Advertised as an "XA,XB,XC,GS,GT",something like that It wasnt for any of them It was of an old Fordson ute/van,about a 40s model !!! Seller didnt care , he got like $60 for it |
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