when the amercian economy collaspes what happens to ford

roberts · 27-06-2011, 08:02 PM

surely its unsustainable

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

will ford Australian disappear?
Will we all be on www.greatwallforums.com.au

sbcb · 27-06-2011, 08:20 PM

Its just numbers, when it all gets to much we'll just go back to the barter system. Makes me feel ok with the thought of 100% finance on the latest FPV GT-P at whatever interest rate they want.

TheInterceptor · 27-06-2011, 08:24 PM

Enter Bartertown.

roberts · 27-06-2011, 08:29 PM

ill swap you your FPV with a flat battery for this dead rat, bon appetite.
on second thought throw in your house.

nstg8a · 27-06-2011, 08:30 PM

they will just invade another country to prop up the economy. can you imagine their unemployment level if they didnt have so much military stationed all round the world?

roberts · 27-06-2011, 08:31 PM

have you every seen paaapppper
(water world)

roberts · 27-06-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

they will just invade another country to prop up the economy. can you imagine their unemployment level if they didnt have so much military stationed all round the world?

would explain why troops are guarding poppy fields and digging for treasure in Afghanistan, got to pay them bills oh and goldman sache got the gold digging rights there as well, oh i also hears there's some oil. Rape and pillage guess that still happens but now its called humanitarian.

But seriously I dont think they can dig/pump/snort/steal and kill there way out of $14.3 trillion

Bossxr8 · 27-06-2011, 09:53 PM

Rumour is that the poppy fields are providing most of the CIA's funding.

Jim Goose · 27-06-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by roberts

would explain why troops are guarding poppy fields and digging for treasure in Afghanistan, got to pay them bills oh and goldman sache got the gold digging rights there as well, oh i also hears there's some oil. Rape and pillage guess that still happens but now its called humanitarian.

But seriously I dont think they can dig/pump/snort/steal and kill there way out of $14.3 trillion

Dont forget they are guarding their beloved oil/gas pipeline..... no reported oil in afghanistan, but last i think they reported it was very rich in certain minerals. Aerial surveys as well as satellite surveys were done and apparently several billion worth of mining....

Maggot · 27-06-2011, 11:27 PM

Id be more worried about foriegn aid and NATO funding.. cannot imagine China being so nice when it comes to f/a spending in their budget.

In fact they probably still get development assistance from the US.

burnz · 28-06-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Rumour is that the poppy fields are providing most of the CIA's funding.

rumour ...is that what it's called..

Falc'man · 28-06-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Dont forget they are guarding their beloved oil/gas pipeline..... no reported oil in afghanistan, but last i think they reported it was very rich in certain minerals. Aerial surveys as well as satellite surveys were done and apparently several billion worth of mining....

FEBRUARY 12, 1998

Jim Goose · 28-06-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

FEBRUARY 12, 1998

Funny how quickly the pipeline was built... and how a few years ago the minister for defence (under howard, cant remember his name) actualy congratulated our soldiers for "defending the pipeline". It managed to make to the media a few times and never was heard again in any debates.

Anyhoo... should America go under maybe they could sell some of their assets to the world bank or the ruling rich?
Greece is considering sellings off its assets... because the bank wants in.
Also think that the world bank now has control of economic policy as well as part of the bail out deal.

Why isnt anyone (apart from Greeks) afraid of this?

Not ot mention China has a large amount of Americas debt as well, im sure they wouldnt mind owning the grand canon?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/greeks-f...627-1gnbw.html

mr smith · 28-06-2011, 05:57 PM

Im sure Afganistan just happens to have (along with China) lots of Lithium.

http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/14/af...other-bolivia/

Coincidence they required liberating?

CJR09 · 28-06-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Anyhoo... should America go under maybe they could sell some of their assets to the world bank or the ruling rich?
Greece is considering sellings off its assets... because the bank wants in.
Also think that the world bank now has control of economic policy as well as part of the bail out deal.

Why isnt anyone (apart from Greeks) afraid of this?

this is a good point - is the world gonna sell up/give up its assets to TPTB in leiu of debt? cos thats where its headed...

anyone bother to watch the doco that EF 6 posted about in another thread??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-ZC...eature=related

I think sooner or later there has to be global revolt - I dont think its a matter of IF but WHEN...

America has been at the hands of TPTB since before the revolution - big money has controlled many a war for a long long time...

Jim Goose · 28-06-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CJR09

this is a good point - is the world gonna sell up/give up its assets to TPTB in leiu of debt? cos thats where its headed...

anyone bother to watch the doco that EF 6 posted about in another thread??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-ZC...eature=related

I think sooner or later there has to be global revolt - I dont think its a matter of IF but WHEN...

America has been at the hands of TPTB since before the revolution - big money has controlled many a war for a long long time...

That doco is from 1996 but its still very relevent today.
It amazes me how many people think the US Federal Reserve Bank is actually part of the US Federal Gov... and im glad to see it mention the law passed in 1913 about the reserve.

Do a search on Alex Russo, he made a similer doco a few yrs ago, on the american income tax law, which doesnt exsist....

charles_wif_xf · 28-06-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CJR09

America has been at the hands of TPTB since before the revolution - big money has controlled many a war for a long long time...

And so has most of the Anglo-Saxon world too CJR.

And the bloke you are referring to Jim is Aaron Russo, he made a doco called "America: Freedom to Fascism". Poor guy died of cancer in 2007, may he rest in peace.

Jim Goose · 28-06-2011, 07:47 PM

Oops! Yes Aaron Russo... dunno why i was thinking Alex..
His doco is well worth it, incredible stuff.

charles_wif_xf · 28-06-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Oops! Yes Aaron Russo... dunno why i was thinking Alex..
His doco is well worth it, incredible stuff.

Maybe Alex Jones at Infowars was on your mind hehe.

Jim Goose · 28-06-2011, 08:11 PM

Could be... ! While i agree with him sometimes, he just comes across as.. er.. um... too much of a shock jock.

CJR09 · 28-06-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

And so has most of the Anglo-Saxon world too CJR.

HA! true... I guess the point I was trying to make is that big money is very global with a hand in most - if not all pies - either way ford us has done well to avoid bail-out so as long as they keep ahead of the pack they very well could be last man standing... who really owns ford us these days??? GLP much?

glavas · 29-06-2011, 07:56 AM

all they need to do is raise taxes and cut back on spending.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

castellan · 29-06-2011, 01:30 PM

How can a economy collapse like the USA it's nonsense! no one could be so stupid.
Something is wrong like it's has all been set up to fall for some reason.
Ford in the USA was doing well then just went bust surely someone seen it all coming.

trippytaka · 29-06-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Rumour is that the poppy fields are providing most of the CIA's funding.

For black ops. But this has always been the case - illegal activity to provide non-traceable money to go to secret ops. Hence the massive jump in heroin exportation from Afghanistan since the invasion.

trippytaka · 29-06-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by castellan

How can a economy collapse like the USA it's nonsense! no one could be so stupid.
Something is wrong like it's has all been set up to fall for some reason.
Ford in the USA was doing well then just went bust surely someone seen it all coming.

If you want to know the reason why it's all happening, basically point to Bush Junior... tax cuts, military spending, medicare etc.

watch this video to see how it all started. This was from about 3 years ago, back when the US Debt was down just over 10 trillion

charles_wif_xf · 29-06-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by castellan

How can a economy collapse like the USA it's nonsense! no one could be so stupid.
Something is wrong like it's has all been set up to fall for some reason.
Ford in the USA was doing well then just went bust surely someone seen it all coming.

It takes ten minutes worth of research to know that the US (economically that is) is headed towards oblivion. Govco over there is not able to come good on all the bonds that have been sold. Picture what is happening in Greece, now multiply that by 30 or so...

**Raptor** · 29-06-2011, 02:09 PM

The Romans probably thought they'd be the top dog for ever too.

Bent8 · 29-06-2011, 09:12 PM

The plan is to "nationalize" the car companies, there are many people that now believe America will become a 3rd world nation by end of this year!

Let's call it "Socialism", it's all a sick joke played out on the people by the Bankers who hold no allegiance to any nation. The Federal Reserve is not "Federal" and it has no "reserves"...a group of private European banks own them and they set the rules on how it operates.

Did you know that every US dollar that's printed is actually an IOU to these private banks with the American people picking up the tab and also being the collateral?...

The US will need QE3 by August 2nd 2011 or they will default, my guess is they will get it but it won't be enough to stop hyperinflation which will hit the US economy by Christmas.

Read up on the "Weimar Republic" for a better understanding.

The economies of the world are all designed to collapse so the IMF can take over and introduce a "One-World currency" with the UN providing the military muscle.

Money is just a tool, it has no real value, no precious metal backing...the real power comes from controlling peoples' lives.

The bankers' greatest leverage on controlling the world economy comes from the "derivatives" scam which is said to be worth several quadrillion dollars (yes, QUADRILLION) today!

Want more info?...send me a PM.

roberts · 29-06-2011, 11:10 PM

its funny because you cant talk about US or world economics with out going for a trip down the rabbit hole, life was easier when we weren't informed, didn't have to worry about these things and I liked the taste of that sweet fluoride tap water

Jim Goose · 29-06-2011, 11:39 PM

Bent8 while agree with what you have said... why do you "call it socialism"?
Has nothing to do with it.
The US has been controlled by the banks for long time and the population has slowly been conforming to "new" ideals for decades.
(Much the same as here)
Remember that medicare is "socialism" and spending more on the military is patriotic...