QLD Personal plates

last fairlane · 09-01-2011, 01:20 AM

Hi does anyone know what the deal is when you buy or sell personal plates
I bought 2 sets of PP at a swap meet
I want to use one set on my car
and sell the other set on
I went to the transport office but couldnt get much sense
out of them other than it costs $78 to transfer them
do you have to have bought them from PPQ to
have them transfered to your name
as I got these from a swap meet no paperwork came with them
does any one know for sure where I stand
regarding official ownership of them
is it like buying a car without a receipt and then
just signing a stat dec
or something different
thanks

Smoke Pursuit · 09-01-2011, 01:27 AM

You will need to get the previous owner to sign paperwork to transfer them.. I just sold a set..

last fairlane · 09-01-2011, 01:53 AM

Thanks for that
but like I said I got them from a swap meet
so no idea who the real owner is
its been over a year since I got them
thanks

Zed7fiddy · 09-01-2011, 02:46 AM

Dude, the only way to use them is to somehow find out the real owner, and have them sign transfer papers, all your currently own is a peice of tin, the old owner still owns the combination and could still be using it (via ordering replacement plates) on a vehicle of their own.

Then once you have the owner sign the form to transfer ownership to you then you pay the 78 bucks. then you can put them on your car.

XBROO · 09-01-2011, 09:46 AM

Yes they are right in what they are saying, had to transfer some over about a year ago.

chrisfpv · 09-01-2011, 10:45 AM

Looks like you may be in a bit of a pickle mate.

99AUXR · 09-01-2011, 10:56 AM

hunt him down =)

**Revolver** · 09-01-2011, 11:07 AM

Maybe the next step is to ring PPQ & explain the situation. Also, Please tell me you have a reciept from the seller saying that you have purchased said plates/combination. Otherwise your in a serious pickle. In fact, the receipt may not be enough. You would also need a witness, as well, such as your wife/brother/best mate/dog. Because it's your word vs his if he is pulling some something shifty.

This could get complicated.

Jim Goose · 09-01-2011, 11:10 AM

PPQ wont release the details of the owners due to privacy laws, total waste of time.

The phrase "buyer beware " comes to mind...

**Revolver** · 09-01-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

PPQ wont release the details of the owners due to privacy laws, total waste of time.

No but he can explain the situation to PPQ, show the receipt, & have a witness confirm the sale at the swap meet. & ask them to get into contact with the owner, & also tell PPQ, that the plates are not stolen, they were sold.

But Fairlane, you should have been a more careful buying these, because who knows, this could be a combination that has been stolen to be sold on to an unsuspecting buyer. I would have been suspicious of them being sold at a swap meet without the transfer papers to be signed, & signatures of both parties or at least a way to contact the owner of the plates in case of a problem.

But anyone can give phony details, it's the lack of paperwork that has me guessing youve been caught out. This may be a police matter. If PPQ can't/won't help, take the plates to the police, explain the story, & hope for the best. that's all you can do.

**Revolver** · 09-01-2011, 02:02 PM

On that note though, you may just get a talking to from the boys in blue about how you should go about buying at swapmeets & sent on your way....

red_hotxr6 · 09-01-2011, 05:12 PM

Did u get a receipt for the sale of the plates at the swap meet?

zdcol71 · 09-01-2011, 05:37 PM

Isn't there something like a REVS check that can be done??
Question...are they actually Queensland plates or just dodgy novelty plates?

Jim Goose · 09-01-2011, 05:59 PM

Yes you could ask police if they are stolen.... at least then it would be safe to hang them up on the wall.

302 XC · 09-01-2011, 08:25 PM

Depends if the plates have ever been on a registered car
The plates on my XC have never been on a regoed car
The plates wont be classed as stolen if it was never reported
You only need proof of ownership for replacment plates,like any other plate replacment

Jim Goose · 09-01-2011, 08:54 PM

They are recorded against your name if not registered to a car, therefor they need the orginal owner to transfer them.....

XRATE-UTERUS · 09-01-2011, 09:21 PM

just make up a dodgy receipt. I Mr Dodge sell these plates to Mr Buyer Beware for X amount of dollars. they never check.

chrisfpv · 09-01-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by XRATE-UTERUS

just make up a dodgy receipt. I Mr Dodge sell these plates to Mr Buyer Beware for X amount of dollars. they never check.

That's great advice....not!

If it's anything like Victoria than you're screwed if you don't have some sort of Transfer of Rights form that both parties have signed.

XR2DOOR · 09-01-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XRATE-UTERUS

just make up a dodgy receipt. I Mr Dodge sell these plates to Mr Buyer Beware for X amount of dollars. they never check.

patxbcoupe · 10-01-2011, 08:56 AM

Mate, if all else fails, perhaps you should post up the combo of the plates here, perhaps someone will recognise them and put you in touch with the registered owner??

bigsta · 10-01-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XRATE-UTERUS

just make up a dodgy receipt. I Mr Dodge sell these plates to Mr Buyer Beware for X amount of dollars. they never check.

lol...no, not unless you want to get done for fraud or something, with all the anti terrorist laws that came in a few years ago im pretty sure this sort of fraud has a harsh penalty..

like everyone has said the plates are just tin and are the property of the RTA/vic roads etc that's why you are suppose to hand them back if your car becomes unregistered, there is actually a fine for having plates in your possession if the cars registration has lapsed for more than 3 months.

The thing that you should have brought is the combination.

There is one other possibility perhaps that combo has lapsed as the plates were from a wrecked car so maybe check the roads website to see if that combo is available (RTA have that im not sure about other states).

If thats a no go and you did not pay much, i would just write this off to experience and a lesson learnt mate but if you did pay a good sum perhaps you could go to the police saying they sold it to you under false pretences or in the wrong manner so you wanted to contact them as its illegal to sell actual plates, you can only ever sell the right to the combination.

2 things could happen by doing this 1 you may find the guy who sold you the plates is the owner and is willing to sign the combo over properly.

Or you will find you have purchased some stolen plates.

Good luck buddy.

Jim Goose · 10-01-2011, 03:12 PM

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There is one other possibility perhaps that combo has lapsed as the plates were from a wrecked car so maybe check the roads website to see if that combo is available (RTA have that im not sure about other states).

these are personalized plates... the combo belongs to a person/ company etc...
Even if attached to a unregistered car, the combo belongs to the person, not the car.

XRATE-UTERUS · 10-01-2011, 06:30 PM

i cant belive the dumb **** even sold them to you without transfer papers.

thats if they were his . do what goose said ,ask the coppers.

last fairlane · 10-01-2011, 10:01 PM

Thanks for all your comments
I went to QLD transport today
and they are actual QLD plates
and are not stolen
but without a receipt and transfer papers
from the original owner I cant use them
I cant even transfer them to my own name
they wont tell me whos name they are in
all I can do if I really want to keep them
is to start again and pay $400
thats telling me that the plates have lapsed
when you read between the lines
the lady at QLD transport wouldnt comment when I asked if
they are still currently on a registered car
I said can I hang them in the garage
she said yes thats all you can do with them
thanks for your input
LF

flappist · 10-01-2011, 10:15 PM

What ever you do, don't put them on a car and drive through a dozen speed cameras.......

GS608 · 10-01-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

What ever you do, don't put them on a car and drive through a dozen speed cameras.......

Remove your rego sticker first though!

bigsta · 10-01-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

these are personalized plates... the combo belongs to a person/ company etc...
Even if attached to a unregistered car, the combo belongs to the person, not the car.

Yes thats what I said.

In other words if the person who owns that combo does not pay the annual fee the plates/combo ownership lapse and become available for others to purchase at standard RTA prices ie: if you don't pay the annual fee you lose ownership rights to that combination which is what sounds like has happened so if you want to use the plates fairlane pay the $400.

If its a really great combination like a single number or GTHO or something best pay the $400 cause it could be worth thousands, check out the trading post/classifieds to see what i mean.

Jim Goose · 10-01-2011, 11:13 PM

there is no annual fee in QLD... you pay them once and thats it.
he bought QLD plates...

**Revolver** · 10-01-2011, 11:41 PM

NSW - Annual Fee

QLD - Bought once, owned for life, unless transferred.

bigsta, it helps to do some research first. (No offence)

chrisfpv · 11-01-2011, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Beast II

NSW - Annual Fee

QLD - Bought once, owned for life, unless transferred.

bigsta, it helps to do some research first. (No offence)

Ooh didn't know that about QLD, looks like this guy got you good!