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Old 20-04-2010, 06:26 PM   #1
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Default China to Sell 100,000 cars Annually In Australia Within Five Years

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Chinese cars will make massive inroads into Australia in the next few years, as they replace Korean makers in the bargain basement end of the market.

The man in charge of the first Chinese-branded vehicles to be sold in Australia, Ric Hull, says it will take the Chinese less than half the time it took the Koreans to reach the milestone of 100,000 sales in one year.

Hull ought to know. He introduced Hyundai into Australia nationally as an independent distributor in 1988, after another distributor, John Hughes, began importing Hyundais in West Australia in 1986.

It took Korean brands 12 years to reach 100,000 sales in one year and they are now among the top three sellers of cars in Australia.

According to Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries figures, so far this year 90,000 vehicles have come from Japan (up 13 per cent), 42,000 have come from Korea (up 68 per cent), 38,000 have come from Thailand (up eight per cent), while Australian-made cars accounted for 35,000 sales.

Chinese-made cars accounted for a fraction of the total new vehicle sales in Australia (1400) in the first three months of this year, but at least six new Chinese-made vehicles are due in showrooms by the end of this year.

"I don't want to put an exact figure on it but I'd be disappointed if Chinese brands don't make it to 100,000 in five years," he told the Carsales Network.

"The Australian new-car market is much bigger now than it was when the Koreans started in 1986, so it shouldn't be too much trouble (to reach 100,000) at all."
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I'm glad that Ford is not playing in this end of the market, price based competitors like Kia and Hyundai (maybe Toyota) will fall prey to the passable Chinese vehicles about to hit our shores.

As long as buyers view the Great Wall V240 as "just a Jackaroo with a different face",
Great Wall stand to cut a swathe through Korean and Japanese profits as people.......

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Old 20-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #2
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I'm glad that Ford is not playing in this end of the market, price based competitors like Kia and Hyundai (maybe Toyota) will fall prey to the passable Chinese vehicles about to hit our shores.

As long as buyers view the Great Wall V240 as "just a Jackaroo with a different face",
Great Wall stand to cut a swathe through Korean and Japanese profits as people.......
I thought the Great Wall cars all had horrible crash test ratings? Maybe the government should make a minimum ANCAP rating for all new cars being imported into the country.....lets say.....4...?
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I thought the Great Wall cars all had horrible crash test ratings? Maybe the government should make a minimum ANCAP rating for all new cars being imported into the country.....lets say.....4...?
Great Wall cars will get a 4 Star ANCAP rating, there's a big stink about it
because they achieved it without Stability Control...
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Old 20-04-2010, 06:43 PM   #4
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only seen 2 great wall utes and 1 suv so it looks like a very long time to hit 100,000
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Wouldn't own a great wall if you gave it to me...buy Australian made, keep jobs in Australia, healthy economy!
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only seen 2 great wall utes and 1 suv so it looks like a very long time to hit 100,000
Story is they are gonna flood here like diahorrea...
Seen it all before with Hyundai, they used redundant Mitsubishi designs for quite a while.

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Yes, that may be so but plenty of Australians will buy Chinese because they don't care
and now that buyers are comfortable with Hyundai/Kia, Chinese is a much easier sell....
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Ford and Holden buyers will probably stay pretty true but
I can see the low cost brands being savaged ...brutally.
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Old 20-04-2010, 08:03 PM   #9
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These cheap cars from China and India are disposable junk. Let's see how the resale is when they get to 5 or 6 years old when things start to go wrong. No one will want to shell out the dollars to fix (or try to fix) faults that are caused by second rate engineering and cheap components. False economy really.
They will become the Ssangyong of the 21st century.
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On the contrary,
They will become the Hyundai and Kia of the 21st century.
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100,000 cars is about 10% of the whole market, do they seriously believe that will be possible in 5 years?
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Old 20-04-2010, 08:58 PM   #12
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these 'cheap' vehicles are definately of inferior build quality, just watch them drop to bits in a few years time.
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ya know i don't get it, I'm currently dating a chinese girl....and she has told me that no one in china was stupid enough to buy a Great Wall vehicle and they preferred to by non chinese cars!
So if the Chinese get that the cars are ********, why don't we?
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Old 20-04-2010, 09:02 PM   #14
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basically says it all really, they are cheap and people will buy them but im sure there will be issues with them. Mind you they are offering good warranties on them which says they must have some confidence in the build quality etc
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I have not seen one great wall at my work. 90% fords and Toyota 4wd's, few holdens, some land rovers, etc, but no horrid Chinese buckets. The tradesman don't trust them. And they'd rather drive VB wagons than great walls.
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time will tell whether they will be reliable etc. If I was a tradesman I definetely wouldnt buy one.
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They will become the Hyundai and Kia of the 21st century.
Hyundai and Kia have both come a long way, but its taken a long time. I seriously doubt that the junk from China will ever get to their current standards.
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Hyundai's aren't too far off some of the jap vehicles, i agree that the chinese stuff have a long way to go
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Ford and Holden buyers will probably stay pretty true but
I can see the low cost brands being savaged ...brutally.

You mean Commodore, Falcon and Camry buyers. Those are the only Aussie made cars. Everything else is imported, Ford, Holden or otherwise.
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Japan took several decades to reach acceptance levels of the buying public,
Korea took half the time so, why wouldn't China take even less time.....
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I'm seeing these Great Wall utes around a lot lately.
They are also putting them into shopping centres so everyone can see.
They're cheap and are able to do what most people want out of such a vehicle.

I wouldn't be so quick to discount them.
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You mean Commodore, Falcon and Camry buyers. Those are the only Aussie made cars. Everything else is imported, Ford, Holden or otherwise.
I'm non-committal on Toyota as they have other Asian plants that could build
Camry and Aurion, they could pull out at a moment's notice if it suited them
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Japan took several decades to reach acceptance levels of the buying public,
Korea took half the time so, why wouldn't China take even less time.....

Unfortunately these days with cheap TV's, phone, computers, etc. People have the BATA (Buy And Throw Away) mentality. So why not buy the cheapest car you can get and buy a new one in 3 years.....it works in China with their heavy machinery.
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Where i work we dig up dirt and send it to China.. If China does good.. I do good........
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Watch the road toll rise if people are stupid enough to buy them!
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Korean cars have never been the rubbish quality that these Chinese vehicles are. I think it's a shame that these death traps are even allowed into this country.
I don't know about others, but I will never touch a Chinese built car as long as I live. That is just my personal opinion.
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Korean cars have never been the rubbish quality that these Chinese vehicles are. I think it's a shame that these death traps are even allowed into this country.
I don't know about others, but I will never touch a Chinese built car as long as I live. That is just my personal opinion.
yeh excluding Daewoo of course...right?
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Korean cars have never been the rubbish quality that these Chinese vehicles are. I think it's a shame that these death traps are even allowed into this country.
I don't know about others, but I will never touch a Chinese built car as long as I live. That is just my personal opinion.
And yet the two Great Wall vehicles will achieve 4 stars like superseded BA-BF Falcons......

Those old 3 star E series and 2 star X series Falcons don't look so good....
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my nissan navara was built in spain, i was told the new ones are thai built
and I also have been told no chinese people drive great walls, and the only reason chinese buy chinese built cars is because the goverment will not allow imported cars into china, we should have that same attuitude here ,,, oz made f the imports
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my nissan navara was built in spain, i was told the new ones are thai built
and I also have been told no chinese people drive great walls, and the only reason chinese buy chinese built cars is because the goverment will not allow imported cars into china, we should have that same attuitude here ,,, oz made f the imports
Yeah because protectionism is doing Chinese built cars so well.
Where is the benefit to consumers if you only allow the same car for everyone?
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