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Peter Car
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It gets a bit lost in this article but the new liquid injection I6 has been delayed until 2011. 5th paragraph.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576F7007FD467 |
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I'm getting worried about the Falcon. For a long time I was convinced Ford would give the go ahead for a GRWD platform, securing the Falcon name plate. We all knew the Falcon Wagon was going to die, but things keep getting pushed back, delayed and Ford have kept so silent. It reminds me of the demise of the Fairlane. I want to be proven wrong. Regardless, I'm very excited for this new LPG engine and hopeful the EcoBoost engine will work well in the Falcon. Only time will tell...
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Might be a big one next year. New Terry, LI LPG Falcon, Ranger, Focus?, Kuga?
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The longer they delay the release of this, the less money they're going to make. Orbital and Ford have invested a lot of money in this project and I am disappointed that it has taken it so long to get off the ground.
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yeh the really need to pull there finger out of there bums they are possibly losing customers, there needs to be a major release this year as well as the 5.0 to get the ball rolling for them
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Might as well as delay the new V8 as well and bring everything out in 2011, smash all the other auto manufacturers out of the ballpark with a massive range of new products. I think we get a face lifted Fiesta in 2011 too.
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They'll have too much next year they won't know where to focus their attention. They need to promote the new Focus, the facelifted Mondeo, FG II, new Territory and maybe more. Fords marketing team will have a tough time Turing to get customers familiar with all these new products without confusing them.
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Hmm. Some interesting points.
(1) If the current V8 can't be sold from July1st, then neither can the current LPG engine right? But the LPG Wagon will be onsale until September? Have I heard all this right? (2) Holden are not going to have an LPG solution after July 1st, and haven't even committed to one? Is that right too? So Holden must be pinning all their hopes on E85 then I take it? Lukeyson
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1)Ford got dispensation to continue the LPG Falcons until September, that was mostly to complete fleet orders but I wonder if the government will give them another extension for E-Gas sedans until the LI LPG is ready next year. Heck, October to January isn't a big stretch and the build numbers aren't that much..... 2) Holden's LPG system is not the same as Ford's old mixer thing, pretty sure the dual fuel already complies with at least Euro IV. by switching between petrol and electric as needed, Holden might overcome some of the hurdles Falcon E GAS is now facing for compliance. It makes me think that Holden looked at dedicated LPG and saw it was too hard, Ford on the other hand probably felt they could simply solve the problems... Last edited by jpd80; 03-04-2010 at 12:03 PM. |
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By the Time Kuga gets here, it will be too late, much like the Terry is already way overdue. |
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yeah, it really should all already be here.
Now is when it matters more. |
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to do with Ford stretching out project expenses to make it affordable to them and consumers. Just be grateful we weren't steam rollered into the new Explorer. I'm actually surprised that Ford let Territory go through with unitary Explorer knocking on the door step... Until Kuga production starts in Asia we have SFA chance of getting it here at a profitable price, ie under Territory RWD price........... |
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Better late than never, look at the Audi Q5 and Q7. While the Q7 isn't partially good looking, both models are selling very well. Just like the BMW X1, selling like hot cakes in Europe. As long as Ford get it here soon, and make a huge fuss about it, I'll be happy
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Doesn't seem very smart, LiLPG should have been introduced with FG back in 08
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Justification of Finance and then a long pause for trimming costs and government grant. You guys don't know how close Ford Australia is sailing to the wind. Not making the 2015 Falcon decision public until 2012 is very worrying indeed.... |
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Christ what is with Ford, it seriously is not that hard for a full sized auto manufacturer to shove decent LPG in their top selling car.
Aftermarket has been able to do it for the best part of two years and fomoco Australia cant do with their hundreds of engineers and full test facilities ![]()
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and the approval system is much easier than OEMs like Ford or Holden face on new vehicles. You have to prove emission reliability for at least 100,000 kms (Euro IV) and 160,000 klms for Euro V and VI. |
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Hang on, is this just go auto or official?
Because I4T is well underway and LiLPG has already produced good numbers. Did they give a reason?
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I heard a rumor that the LILPG developed problems late in the testing program, maybe someone with better intel could point us in the right direction... |
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It has been posted here previously that the new LPG system is making good power, so much so that they have explored detuning it.
So lets say its at the same power level as the ULP engine, whats the hold up?
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