TV Cancellation or renewal

HSE2 · 21-05-2009, 09:19 AM

The following link provides info on which shows made it and which didn't.

How did your favourite shows fair?

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/19...0-so-far/19110

Archilino · 21-05-2009, 04:48 PM

Do i read that right? boston legal cancelled? No more denny Crane!
What a disgrace best show on tv by a mile, devastated.

Quicklier · 21-05-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Archilino

Do i read that right? boston legal cancelled? No more denny Crane!
What a disgrace best show on tv by a mile, devastated.

Yep, Boston Legal finished in December last year (US screening that is)

MAV50L · 21-05-2009, 04:58 PM

Well thats a good link if I was sitting at home watching American TV channels.

Tuddy200 · 21-05-2009, 05:01 PM

Boston Legal turned like The Simpsons have. Was great in the beginning but towards the the end went downhill, but alot faster.

It started out as a real good comedy surrounding the funny side of law, then I felt it went to more of a soap type program as if it should be played after the "The days of our life"... with all the love, marriage, relationship they introduced.

24, NCIS, Alias, JAG, M.A.S.H are all get straight to the point, action shows with a comedy side. God I miss JAG and Alias.

platinumXR · 21-05-2009, 05:15 PM

: gonna miss LIFE too...

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HSE2 · 21-05-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MAV50L

Well thats a good link if I was sitting at home watching American TV channels.

Those American channels are the obvious source for the programs that get picked up by the local networks.

The network designation has no relevance, the program title certainly does.

Funny enough Boston Legal took plenty of shots at the networks in the closing episodes.

Programs that actually rate well have been cancelled due to inappropriate timing or an age demographic that isn't the networks top desire. They mocked sued a network for exactly that.

A show like “The Unit” had strong numbers in the +45 age group but it’s not what CBS wanted.

Torrents. PVRs have changed the way ratings configure and the networks are pretty much to blame through scheduling and running repeats in prime time. People have had enough.

Our industry reacted by showing new season programming so close to the US running that they hope people won't waste bandwidth with downloads.

In the Boston Legal episode, they argued that the age the networks now target are the ages that don't watch programs completely, in that they text or twitter or laptop through an entire episode supposedly designed for them. In the end the most affluent age group, the group with money to spend in these times, gets ignored.

They won that case but lost the battle.

Rodp · 21-05-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MAV50L

Well thats a good link if I was sitting at home watching American TV channels.

Take a closer look at the TV shows being aired in prime time. Majority of them are American TV. You are sitting at home watching American TV channels unless you're an avid SBS or ABC viewer.

CADSKY · 21-05-2009, 07:27 PM

cant believe they renewed LOST. does anyone even watch that show anymore??

**redxm** · 21-05-2009, 07:52 PM

Greys anatomy, terminator, battlestar galactica,stargate, all gone :(

Rastus · 21-05-2009, 08:16 PM

Spewin! Can't believe that they didn't give "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" a reprieve. Apparently it didn't have the ratings over in the US.
I would've thought they'd hold off until Terminator Salvation runs it's course.
Yeah, I'm still getting over no more BSG! Sucks being a SciFi fan.
Now, where am I at in my emotional response? as laid out in THIS post on the originally mentioned TV forum

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1.) Denial - “NO! It’s not official yet! I have a rumor from so and so that says it’s still has a chance! Not until XXX network says so officially!”

2.) Anger - “Those Mother F-ing people at XXX network! They cancel all the good shows and just leave on the crap! I dont’ care if the other crap had better ratings, my show was the best!!! I’ll never watch XXX network again!!!”

3.) Bargaining - “If we just send X number of Item X, they’ll know we mean business and will bring back our show! Who’s with me!” (Us Chuck fans seems to jump right to this stage with the Subway thing for some reason)

4.) Depression - “Dammit! Now I have nothing to watch on X-day… *sniff* I guess I’ll just stop watching TV all together and go read a book or do something outside!”

5.) Acceptance - “Sigh… I guess it really is cancelled. All right, XXX network, what have you got for me this season? I have another hour to kill…”

Oh yeah.....DEATH TO REALITY TV!

flappist · 25-05-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CADSKY

cant believe they renewed LOST. does anyone even watch that show anymore??

Remember these are American show designed for American audiences. They don't think like other people.

Star Trek TOS was cancelled, as was Firefly and a host of others that later became extremely popular whereas some of the long term rubbish (oprah, jerry springer, dr phil etc) is just banal beyond belief.

kenz · 25-05-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CADSKY

cant believe they renewed LOST. does anyone even watch that show anymore??

when I was working night shift a couple weeks ago there was an episode on during the day. I thought it would have been hard to get more far fetched than the first season. Boy was I wrong

platinumXR · 25-05-2009, 01:29 PM

It does not help when Networks miss episodes, play them at obscure hours/times and expecting viewers to be telepathic and just KNOW when it will be on or let other shows encroach 15 to 30 minutes into scheduled times.

I don't know how many times I have set record for a show via EPG or whatever only to have some dingb@t reality show that no one really watches anyway; go overtime for seemingly no other reason than it can. I fill up the HDD with excess info because I have to record at least 1/2 to 1 hour after a show in the hope it does not get shifted.

It's the reason I switch off networks and download via torrent or buy the whole series when it is cancelled after 2 seasons due to no interest because no one can find it on the network...blah...blah...vicious circle.

And don't even get me started about Lost: It's like reading a Tom Clancy novel - starts out ok...then ten minutes later...

sleep:

JPFS1 · 25-05-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CADSKY

cant believe they renewed LOST. does anyone even watch that show anymore??

yes. I do, and I love it. The only show that I actually enjoy on TV.

Requires a bit of a brain to completely understand it. Something that most viewers of TV these days wouldn't be able to do, considering all they like to watch are the reality/competition/how not to be fat type shows etc etc...

GTpilot · 25-05-2009, 01:56 PM

MY NAME IS EARL NBC 2.4 2.29 1.05 canceled

WHAT!!! How could they!!! :jab:
Oh well at least Scrubs survived. Long live Dr Perry Cox!!!

Gobes32 · 25-05-2009, 02:09 PM

I download all my television because I gave up on the networks. Foxtel is another who give me the irrits. I like to watch National Geographic and Discovery channels for the engineering docos. But they always play the same god damn ones over and over. I am sick of learning about London's Heathrow airport and the bloddy Ferrari factory......

Whatever happened to Extreme Engineering? That was a good show........

Paxton · 25-05-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jgb

MY NAME IS EARL NBC 2.4 2.29 1.05 canceled

WHAT!!! How could they!!! :jab:
Oh well at least Scrubs survived. Long live Dr Perry Cox!!!

Scrubs survived? Without Zach Braff and Sarah Chalke?

Surprising.

At least the American Re-makes of British shows (looks to Avatar) didn't make it. I couldn't watch the US Life on Mars.

platinumXR · 25-05-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

At least the American Re-makes of British shows (looks to Avatar) didn't make it. I couldn't watch the US Life on Mars.

I'm with you.

Powdered Toast Man · 25-05-2009, 03:07 PM

Lost is actually much better this season. No more completely unexplained stuff like previous seasons, it all gets looped back around and integrated back into the story. All you need is patience.

I'm with you Paxton. Although I do watch the American Life on Mars it didn't even hold a candle to the "real" series.

I'm glad Dollhouse was renewed so it didn't end up the next Firefly. Now I just hope it comes to free to air TV or at least to DVD.

Airmon · 25-05-2009, 03:15 PM

Kath and Kim didn't last that long.

The american version was terrible to begin with, I didn't see it lasting.

JPFS1 · 25-05-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Powdered Toast Man

Lost is actually much better this season. No more completely unexplained stuff like previous seasons, it all gets looped back around and integrated back into the story. All you need is patience.

Agreed. I can understand why many have turned away, as the series continued to raise questions and never answer them, but the patient viewers have been rewarded. The depth of the story is quite amazing and it just shows that the early mysteries play only a very small part of the much larger picture.

The 2hr season finale was just GREAT and it really reveals ALLOT. Season 5 has really been about tying everything in and has progressed the story toward its conclusion. Something the writers had to do considering they only recently decided the end date of the show.

1 more season. Will really miss it that's for sure.

Rodp · 25-05-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by platinumXR

I don't know how many times I have set record for a show via EPG or whatever only to have some dingb@t reality show that no one really watches anyway; go overtime for seemingly no other reason than it can. I fill up the HDD with excess info because I have to record at least 1/2 to 1 hour after a show in the hope it does not get shifted.

It's the reason I switch off networks and download via torrent or buy the whole series when it is cancelled after 2 seasons due to no interest because no one can find it on the network...blah...blah...vicious circle.

That's the reason I went to Channel BT. Big Brothel always ran overtime and I was missing the last 10 minutes of House back in about Season 2 (even though it was set to record for 1hr30mins!). When I saw how easy it was to download BT episodes, I started dumping all other regular shows that I watched on TV as they were packed with ads and usually a couple of seasons behind.

Today, I don't watch live Aus TV. My TV is actually a computer monitor. 95% of the TV I watch I download, the other 5% I'll grab on a video capture card if I can be bothered.

Gobes32 · 25-05-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

That's the reason I went to Channel BT. Big Brothel always ran overtime and I was missing the last 10 minutes of House back in about Season 2 (even though it was set to record for 1hr30mins!). When I saw how easy it was to download BT episodes, I started dumping all other regular shows that I watched on TV as they were packed with ads and usually a couple of seasons behind.

Today, I don't watch live Aus TV. My TV is actually a computer monitor. 95% of the TV I watch I download, the other 5% I'll grab on a video capture card if I can be bothered.

Amen to that, once you go BT, you never go back......

platinumXR · 25-05-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Amen to that, once you go BT, you never go back......

Yeah, I've watched the last 2 seasons of 5th Gear/TGUK and Battlestar via downloads. Got Heroes to go next as got sick of waiting for 7 to get their act together.

Windsor220 · 25-05-2009, 08:18 PM

Talking about Lost, if it hasnt been cancelled in America, what ever happened to it over here?

I noticed that show Worst week that they keep promoting just now on Ten has been cancelled already over there.

Rodp · 26-05-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Windsor220

Talking about Lost, if it hasnt been cancelled in America, what ever happened to it over here?

I noticed that show Worst week that they keep promoting just now on Ten has been cancelled already over there.

If you like Meet the Parents, it's actually a pretty funny show. It's like the sitcom version of the movie. It did look like it had a limited life though, there's only so much slapstick today's audiences will put up with.

Paxton · 26-05-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

If you like Meet the Parents, it's actually a pretty funny show. It's like the sitcom version of the movie. It did look like it had a limited life though, there's only so much slapstick today's audiences will put up with.

Worst Week was an Americanization of a British show called "The Worst Week of my Life". It was on the ABC a couple of years ago. The British Version wasn't bad, but I have not seen the American Version.

uranium_death · 26-05-2009, 10:24 AM

Hmmm...no word on He-Man returning.

Bummer.

uranium_death · 26-05-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Worst Week was an Americanization of a British show called "The Worst Week of my Life". It was on the ABC a couple of years ago. The British Version wasn't bad, but I have not seen the American Version.

Oh, you really should see the Americanised version of "Red Dwarf".
It's a comedic attempt at creating a comedy, in that it's an absolute pile of sloppy refuse.

Americans have a completely different sense of humour, and they should therefore stick to what they're familiar with. <Here's an opportunity for somebody to add something on!>