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24-07-2007, 11:12 PM | #1 | ||
Big Al
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Gidday, need some help from u gurus, i have a au2 200 kw, built may 2000, from what i can work out, i put it on a mates dyno (brand new dyno dynamics)the other day and it pulled 176 rwk in shootout mode, a mate of mine with a hsv 215 kw recently pulled the same on a different dyno, so i am unsure if i have a 200 or 220 kw engine, ticford only gave me the same rkw figger that i got on the dyno but didnt tell me what the original kws were any ideas or any calculations that i can use to work it out
No2, where can i buy a au 5l workshop manuel from........... Cheers Al |
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24-07-2007, 11:19 PM | #2 | ||||
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as in you're KW's ... when was you're last service?? and have you're plugs or heads been replaced recently?? i just had new plugs put into my car ... and it goes soo much better now ...
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24-07-2007, 11:30 PM | #3 | ||
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No 1. I'm 99 % sure the late series 2 got the 220kw motor, but what dates these were i am not sure ? also if i'm half right if you do have the 22okw motor there should be a engine builders name on the side of the motor, once again will need to confirm 100% if this is so.
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24-07-2007, 11:34 PM | #4 | |||
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As for converting rwkw to flywheel kw, there's no straight up formula and it varies by car, by dyno, and by air temp (in dyno dynamics shoot out mode). Best bet is to look at the identifying features as mentioned above, or contact Ford.
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24-07-2007, 11:37 PM | #5 | |||
Big Al
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Yea it has the name of builder, and also has blue ceramic coated headers (i think? theres no burnt paint on them) |
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24-07-2007, 11:45 PM | #6 | ||
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If its a 2000 model it will be 200 kw engine, the 220kw engines were only available in T series cars in that year.
The 220 kw engine was available to XR8 sedans in mid 2001. Is it the original engine? All the 200kw, and 220kw engines got an engine builders plaque on them, all years and series. More details and we will get to the bottom of this!! lol. 176 rwkws is very very good, |
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25-07-2007, 12:00 AM | #7 | |||
Big Al
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25-07-2007, 12:10 AM | #8 | ||
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i have the 220kw motor in mine and by the build date on yours it is a 200kw motor. As for the throttle body the series 3 220 one is 70mm and the others are 65mm i think and the 220 motors had 1:7 ratio yella terra roller rockers and the lower manifold was touched up by yella terra as well. the 220 motor runs a touch more compresion than the 200. Your blue exaust headers by the sound of it you have aftermarket pace maker extrators which would explain the increase in rear wheel kws. 176 out of a basicly stock 2000 xr8 i would definitly be happy with!!
The way i usually work your rear wheel power is :- fly wheel kw = ruffly rw hp
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25-07-2007, 12:28 AM | #9 | |||
Big Al
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Thanks, i measured the throtel body, internally on da weekend and was definatly 70mm at the throtel plate so i guess the plot thickens......... these dyno numbers were taken from the top of 2 gear and changing to 3, 235,6 hp or 175.6 kw couldnt hold in third kept kickin back to 2 and starting to spin so we tied it down harder and did , 3 runs 1 at 231 1 at 233 1 at 235.6 |
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25-07-2007, 12:33 AM | #10 | ||
Young !@#$ Head
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if it has the tickford wings on the throttle body im pretty sure that means its a 70mm. Does it still have the engine cover on it. (the big bit of plastic thats gets in the way of everything) if it does, does it have 220 written on it. My 220 when it was stock ran 218rwhp. Im pretty sure yours has pacemaker headers the the only guys i can think of that paint theres blue. Which would explain the extra 15-20 rwhp
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25-07-2007, 12:47 AM | #11 | |||
Big Al
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Thers no wings on the throtel body, and the top cowl has no 220 on it, yea it has peacemaker headers badged on them, which i thought was from tickford.... any way i guess i should be happy i have more hp than stock, even with the stock mufflers and pipes, well see what can be done with the new sniper software when it arrives and some new pipes Al |
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25-07-2007, 03:06 AM | #12 | ||
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you should definitley notice a nice difference with some pipes and a custom tune. I havnt got mine tuned yet just pipes a little bit of porting done with the inlet manifolds and the tickford 1:7 roller rockers and it go's well. Dont go any bigger then twin 2 1/2 in my opinion. I went with the 3 inch for the rear half and i lost a bit of back pressure and once i lowered it the pipes being under the diff scraped on the ground and are now sitting in the shed.
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25-07-2007, 05:47 AM | #13 | |||
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try cleaning your t/b, and changing plugs, leads and airfilter and im sure you may even notice an increase in power on your 176 again. but pretty impressive......seeing as my I6 on LPG is pulling around 120rwkw as seen in my sig
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06-08-2007, 01:11 AM | #14 | ||
Big Al
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Taken from a write up on a TE 50...............
# 5.0L High Output OHV V8 named "Synergy 5000" - essentially a US built 5.0 litre Windsor rebuilt & warmed over at Tickford Australia, it featured: * 200 kW @ 5,000 rpm. * 420 Nm @ 3,750 rpm. * Plaque on engine signed by the person who rebuilt the engine to Tickford specs. * Bore: 101.6 mm * Stroke: 76.2 mm * Capacity: 4942 cc * Comp Ratio: 9.0:1 * Unique Tickford camshaft profile. * Roller rockers. * Ceramic coated extractors and twin exhaust * Platinum spark plugs and recalibrated EECV. * Pushrod design valve actuation. * Cast-iron heads. * Sequential fuel injection. * Serpentine accessory drive belt. * Pressed steel rocker covers and sump. * Premium unleaded petrol required. (this same engine was used in the early AU2 XR8 to bring it's performance a little closer to the VT SS's 220kW all-alloy Gen III). www.trueblueford.com/aufalcon.htm I asked FPV if they could give me a a break down of the series 1,2 and three engines, i was politely told the complete specs 'except' for the engines and when i asked again about the internals of the engines, was told that they could not help me any further.......... |
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06-08-2007, 02:41 PM | #15 | ||
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220kW engine went into XR8's from April 2001 onwards.
The only way to be 110% sure of what engine you have is to cal 13FORD and quote the VIN. Things like the T/B,bodykit etc can all be added or changed.
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