911 the conspiracy, an inside job?

[conordec]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

I imagine it was due to the weight.
Each building weighed approx 500,000tons.
The first plane hit about 3/4 up, and the 2nd about 2/3s.
So thats over 100,000tons and approx 200,000tons respectively above the impact site.
Once the supporting columns failed, nothing would have stopped all that weight.
Also only the floors were covered in concrete, the outside of the building was just steel columns encased in an aluminium facade.


BTW: Give my thanks to your father for serving our great country

AND?

what weight? nothing was found, no concrete... just dust!!! only steel posts long enough to fit into trucks, (not saying anything about that.. that would just be plain lucky if it was a conspiracy!!!) so wheres the weight? ie, no concrete??? how many tonnage without that weight?

sorry, as i said, it's only my opinion, if we watch now, who's making excuses... smells of 69?

ps. thanks for your thoughts re, my dad, he's a lucky one.

[XR Martin]

What more do you want me to say? Thats the best I can explain it, im not a structural engineer or physicist either.
If you want a better explaination do some reading on the links ive posted

[conordec]

Thanks, the fact you have acknowledged you are not a structual engieer or physicist makes me happy.

We should really read between the lines... the simple half baked ideals of individuals writing up hypothisus' or quoting the same websites over and over again, bugs me.

you should really go to bed now, it's 2.20am there... (if you're in canberra?) and i've had one too many bourbons.

hooroo...

Mick.

[WOLF]

An inside job? .....sure, why not. Everybody knows how far a desperate American government (or any govt for that matter) would go/do to get what it wants! History illustrates this in all its ugly glory.

[the_scotsman]

I reckon if George Bush can fix a Presidancy election, he can do pretty much everything...

Oh, did anyone watch Loose Change 2 on the History Channel at 9pm last night?

[4.9 EF Futura]

Much love to the Maddox cartoon Im a pirate, are you?? ;)

I must commend XR6 Martin's efforts here. Whilst some people simply lob in and say "the government sucks", we have an individual willing to take the time and effort to discuss, explain and reference every question being raised. Would it be fair to say you have a keen interest in the topic? One that doesnt simply arise every 12 months

Tidy work.

Its encouraging to see so many people question what is put to them by government and media, but it would be nice to see some more constructive views put forward from the conspiracists

[gozza]

Appart from the fact Taliban was set up by CIA to fight Russia...And Bin Laden is Saudi Royal Family...And Bush and Saudis have family ties.....Theres more than this fiasco than planes flying into the towers...

[drcook]

Originally Posted by XRQTR

The biggest joke is that they still don't have the people responsible, reason, it would mean that they couldn't play with their guns anymore.

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i think if they found bin laden (if they havent already) they wouldnt be letting us know.
they have their public political criminal (saddam husein) that they can plaster over the tv showing that america and the rest of the world are democratic in giving him a proper trial.

me thinks bin laden wont be given the same democratic treatment (nor should he).

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by DJL351

It's all smoke and mirrors. Same as any magic act... misdirection.

And who says that "everyone" knew what was about to happen??
I'd be doubtful if anyone outside the Bush Admin and maybe some FBI/CIA
would have know about it.

Of course. The majority of FBI/CIA didn't know. That's why when they investigated the whole thing they didn't uncover it. Yet college students and Michael Moore wannabes everywhere are uncovering the truth. We should sack the entire FBI/CIA and put all these crackpots in there. They would find Bin Laden in a minute. That is assuming he isn't made up by the Freemasons as a scapegoat to bring in the new world order.

Next you'll tell me they did uncover it, but their bosses made up fake reports. Yet no one in the FBI/CIA loves their country enough to expose the lie.

Originally Posted by spoonage

: I know what you've been reading.

Yep! Posted a link to it a page ago. It makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by gozza

Appart from the fact Taliban was set up by CIA to fight Russia...And Bin Laden is Saudi Royal Family...And Bush and Saudis have family ties.....Theres more than this fiasco than planes flying into the towers...

The Taliban wasn't set up, they were aided by the CIA. Yes Bin Laden has close ties with the Saudi royal family, but they disowned him a long time ago. He doesn't even have Saudi citizenship anymore.

What next, the British fought WW1 against themselves because their old queen was half German?

[Sourbastard]

OK, thats enough, I confess. I blew up the world trade center.

FFS, i've never seen such a grouping of half assed assumptions, generalisms, ignorance and nonsense in one place since the LAST 911 conspiracy thread, with the exception of, THE ONE BEFORE THAT.

A final thought for you who think its a conspiracy: Never attribute to maelevolence that which can be explained through stupidity!

[plext]

The only compelling evidence of a 911 coverup is here.

[1970galaxie]

Originally Posted by plext

The only compelling evidence of a 911 coverup is here.

Now that was funny, in the context of it all!

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[Sonia]

I will NEVER believe that the US did not plan 911.
They've killed their own to serve their purposes.... why wouldn't they do it again ?
I don't try to push my opinions onto anyone.... I believe that everyone is entitled to process the information provided from both parties in their own way

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Did you look at the links I posted? Or did you just go straight to 'Reply' before reading anything?

after reading those articles i changed my oppinion about the conspiracy .
thanks Martin.
amazing how truth can be twisted isn't it.

[merlin]

[rodderz]

The pentagon theories have been proven wrong... damaged parts were recovered, there are even sites with some bodies in the wreckage. The walls were cast concrete, and the wings wouldnt have penetrated it, although there is one guy who done a site (cant remember it now) that highlighted the impact of the wing tips and the engines on the wall

One thing that I did get very interested in was the history of the Bush's and his government, they have been tied together for decades in some way, to before JFK with Prescott and George Snr, and their involvement in the Skull & Bones Society and the New World Order.

[Blue Oval Mopar Man]

There are some very twisted little mixed up minds out there beleiving all this conspiracy crap ! And the same ppl always seem to think freaky stuff only happens in the USA. Wake up and smell the roses of reality ppl. Use some common sense !

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by Blue Oval Mopar Man

There are some very twisted little mixed up minds out there beleiving all this conspiracy crap ! And the same ppl always seem to think freaky stuff only happens in the USA. Wake up and smell the roses of reality ppl. Use some common sense !

My thoughts exactly.... Its hard to believe that some people believe some of the stuff posted in here.

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[Kapn_Kiwi]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

There is absolutely nothing logical about the explanations the government has offered about the events which happened on 11/09/2001

So what you're saying is that it's not logical that some extremist militants had something against America and teamed up in order to martyr themselves and cause a blow against America (with which I would say they were successful),
Whereas it is logical that the American government turned against its own people, and killed thousands of them in order to fulfill some other (partially hidden) motive with the public's support?
One sounds like something that could happen under the administration of President George W. Bush, the other sounds a little more like Emperor Palpatine.
I'm no big fan of Bush, and I think his administration has mishandled more than a few matters, but I somehow doubt that Dubya and chums planned 9/11.

Also: I hope that the people on here never ever ever read the Illuminatus! trilogy.
THE PENTAGON WAS ATTACKED IN ORDER TO BREAK THE PENTACLE IT FORMED AND RELEASE YOG-SOTHOTH, DEVOURER OF SOULS.
/hides before the CIA kills me for releasing their secrets.

I also hope that they don't breed.

[OLDFORDNUT]

at least everyone except John Howard now know George Bush is a bloody retard,
i loved his quick desision making on 9/11
der bob der what should i do,
I KNOW,
since Pakistan hides Bin Laden and most of his followers lets attack Irac
WTF

[cupic]

This reeks of a cover up on a huge scale
Fed gov flys out bin ladens relos after 9/11
missiles slamming into the pentagon with NO real evidence
come on plane leaves a nice circular hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bushes only real deal is to make sure US has plenty of oil.
US gov killing US citizen image if some one printed it and lived to tell the tale.

[Sourbastard]

OK. Ive seen enough circus freaks in this thread for one week