tafe pointless? - Page 2

kyro_02 · 21-07-2006, 09:20 PM

i ain't sook'n !!!!! i be more happy to go to tafe if i am 100% on what i willl be happy doing. but at the moment i'm sure i'd enjoy forklift driving, but still not 100% sure if that is what i want to do as long term job. i dunno what i want to do, but i guess i will sus out tafe and so on.... see what happens.

i've been to tafe before .. but pulled out after a few months.. now i'm driving i will be more than happy to go... in fact i'm going to go to tafe when i get money for petrol !!! and speak with 'em.

Falchoon · 21-07-2006, 09:31 PM

In my current job a TAFE certificate is a waste of time because there is very little scope for advancement. I started doing a certificate in Warehousing but dropped out after a few weeks because of the following reasons. The supervisor gets an extra 30c an hour more than a worker (does get a car to take home but), and the manager is on a "salary" not a "wage" and therefore doesn't get paid OT and most of the workers are paid more because they do get OT. The supervisor doesn't have a TAFE certificate, not sure about manager. I have no desire to be a supervisor, especially not for the princely sum of an extra 30c an hour, I have 2 cars already, don't need a 3rd, live 5 mins drive from work anyway.

Having a certificate doesn't guarantee you a job, but most employers would employee a person with one over someone who hasn't got one. If I was an employer, I would much prefer someone who has relevant and useful hands-on experience over someone who is more theory orientated, but that is just me. In my working "career" spanning nearly 20 years and a dozen or so jobs (showing my age here!) I have seen many people with all sorts of qualifications and certificates and generally found that the more academically inclined someone is the less "clever" they are with real-life day-to-day things.

Forklift driving is a good example. Sure you need some theory but IMO 90% of it is on-the-job training. Not sure that books can teach you how to lift a pallet of fragile items from a rack 6m above the ground. Most places will require a person to have a forklift licence before giving them a forklift driver job. This involves a short TAFE course combined with on-the-job training.

MO · 21-07-2006, 09:34 PM

Kyro...whilst I appreciate your unsure position as to what you want to do...hows this...drive your forklift and go to TAFE to get better quals and the chance of a better paying job in something you want to do.

surely you can drive the fork by day and do TAFE by night.

loxxr6 · 21-07-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deanodriver

No. I don't believe TAFE counts for HECS, and the fees are cheaper, especially with concessions (I think my TAFE fees were like $150 or so).

TAFE is definately cheap. Just out of the book here's some examples.

Yrly Cost

Statements and short courses $316
Cert 1 & 2 $370
Cert 3 $580 (although the one I am doing is $340)
Cert 4 $790
Diploma $1050

etc etc etc

Plus you can pay half yearly and get $ exemptions as others have mentioned.

loxxr6 · 21-07-2006, 11:08 PM

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surely you can drive the fork by day and do TAFE by night.

...and with the amount of forklift work you can get, it seems like you can pick and choose what you want. There's tonnes of jobs in seek etc.

Falchoon · 23-07-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by loxxr6

...and with the amount of forklift work you can get, it seems like you can pick and choose what you want. There's tonnes of jobs in seek etc.

How many are real jobs that actually exist is another matter entirely....

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It's the biggest scam by job agencies to attract workers looking for jobs so that the agencies can then in turn sign up more potentiel employer (and charge them heap$ of $$) if they can show they have heaps of jobseekers on the books. A lot of the "jobs" that Seek advertise actually belong to a different job agency, Seek is like a broker, and the agency wants you to sign with them before they will give out any details (it is free to sign up). As soon as you sign up that job has mysteriously gone or not mentioned again. You put your name down saying you want a particular type of job in a particular area and if the agency contacts you (very rare) most times it will be a job you are not experienced/qualified for in an area miles away from where you want to work. Been there done that.