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Old 10-06-2006, 12:47 PM   #1
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Default Car Stalling + Now Overheating

As some of you know, i've had a problem with my car stalling when first started in mornings.

Well yesterday I walked out front at 5am like usual, started my car 3 times (arrrggghhh) and went back inside for a coffee and smoke.

Came out 15minutes later, jumped in my car and ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE.

What the F*^*k is that beepin noise. Coolant temperature at 124^C and rising.

I also noticed when i raced my mate round mt panorama for 5 laps yesterday arvo, the temperature only rose to 92^C which is where the thermostat cuts in.

So why the hell is it overheating while idling in ZERO degree temperatures at 5am, but i can thrash the out of it around the mount and not have a prob.

I also noticed when we pulled up at the end that a few minutes later the temp started to skyrocket.

Does anyone know wtf is going on?

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Old 10-06-2006, 12:49 PM   #2
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Sounds like your thermo fans are not turning on. While you are moving you have airflow through the radiator which is keeping it all cool but standing still you have no airflow and it overheats. Check that your thermo fans are working.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:56 PM   #3
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So if i go outside right njow and start my car the thermo fans should kick in right?

Curent coolant temp is 95^C, it was only just boiling.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:03 PM   #4
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[I]James22 runs outside flailing wildly in attempt to start car lol
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:26 PM   #5
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As some of you know, i've had a problem with my car stalling when first started in mornings.

Well yesterday I walked out front at 5am like usual, started my car 3 times (arrrggghhh) and went back inside for a coffee and smoke.

Came out 15minutes later, jumped in my car and ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE.

What the F*^*k is that beepin noise. Coolant temperature at 124^C and rising.

I also noticed when i raced my mate round mt panorama for 5 laps yesterday arvo, the temperature only rose to 92^C which is where the thermostat cuts in.

So why the hell is it overheating while idling in ZERO degree temperatures at 5am, but i can thrash the out of it around the mount and not have a prob.

I also noticed when we pulled up at the end that a few minutes later the temp started to skyrocket.

Does anyone know wtf is going on?
bugger that i did similar to my power steering pump and which of course melted it (got a new one now though)
hope you fix the car it doesnt sound good but yeah check your thermos and then when the car is cool change to the anti freeze anti boil coolant see if that helps at all
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:47 PM   #6
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yeah thats an idea too. I flushed my radiator a week ago and filled it up with water. Completely forgot till now, it does appear though that my thermo's arent working. I spose its time to get the multi meter backout again (sigh)
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:33 PM   #7
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Nice diagnosis Dr Casper.

Now is that invoice to be sent, or is this consultation Bulk Billed? LOL!

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Sounds like your thermo fans are not turning on. While you are moving you have airflow through the radiator which is keeping it all cool but standing still you have no airflow and it overheats. Check that your thermo fans are working.
Only time I've EVER heard the thermos on my AU V8 start is 40C days with the A/C blasting and my wife towing a double horsefloat. Normally the damn thing will sit anywhere and idle all day without them coming on .... as apposed to my SV8 which the kick in every few minutes (very annoying!!)
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Turn on the A/C and switch the blower fans to high and the thermo's should come on regardless of temp.
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Might be the actual thermostat is sticking or buggered and not opening when the engine reaches temp, sounds alot like it ! .
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Might be the actual thermostat is sticking or buggered and not opening when the engine reaches temp, sounds alot like it ! .
There could perhaps be another Doctor in the house! LOL!

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There could perhaps be another Doctor in the house! LOL!

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It wouldn't cool when driving if that was the case
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"It wouldn't cool when driving if that was the case" , yea i thought that was the case, sorry my appologies.
fair enough , i read the original post wrong !, i though it was just overheating slightlly first , then overheated bad then next morning when idling before he even drove it anywhere. Sorry , still earlly and still wiping the sleep out of my eyes ..lol
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More than likelly there is ! - it was just a suggestion ! . _2:
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:16 AM   #16
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ok, well i'm damned if i know why the thermo's arent kickin in. I'm reasonably sure it isnt the thermostat as i can see when it opens the coolant temp will drop from 92*C down to about 85*C then start building up again. I'll try turning the A/C on and blower fans up see what that does. I'll get back to ya's
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ok, well i'm damned if i know why the thermo's arent kickin in. I'm reasonably sure it isnt the thermostat as i can see when it opens the coolant temp will drop from 92*C down to about 85*C then start building up again. I'll try turning the A/C on and blower fans up see what that does. I'll get back to ya's
I guess you can at least be thankful that your problem is taking place in Winter! LOL!

Imagine the problems you'd have had in Summer!

KUP (keep us posted), I really want to know what's going on now!! LOL!

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Old 12-06-2006, 11:02 AM   #18
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i figured out the problem DUH how stupid does one person get?
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when i pulled my engine apart to spray everything, someone forgot about some wiring ing_sm.. THE BLOODY FANS WERENT CONNECTED. such a simple thing makes a big problem. Now i just got to get the stalling issue fixed
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thanks to you all, if it werent for you all mentioning the fans, who knows how long it would have taken to find the prob.
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Figured it was the thermos. All fixed now??
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:07 AM   #22
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yeah no prob now, i never heard such a sweet sound lol
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You'll never make that mistake again though, so chalk it up to experience!

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Old 12-06-2006, 05:19 PM   #24
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When we got our au wagon back from the local ford dealer, coming down the driveway the temp was going up and up, turned out they did not connect them back up after fixing a leak.
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Sounds like ford for ya lol
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