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Old 18-08-2020, 04:17 PM   #1
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Here, I'll say it again, the world needs to stop buying their ****e and watch their economy implode.
and how do you propose we do that? stop buying their stuff, when so many businesses rely on China to supply them.
I agree in principle but it would take around 4 years to get manufacturers outside of China to gear up and then we would need to pay more per item...cant see that happening.
options are
buy from India
Vietnam...controlled by China
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Old 18-08-2020, 05:32 PM   #2
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.. businesses rely on China to supply them.
.. take around 4 years to get manufacturers outside of China to gear up and then we would need to pay more per item...cant see that happening.
options are
buy from India
https://www.business-standard.com/ar...1700061_1.html

Good thing is others are talking about change.
Most would agree, we cannot do without them from a manufacturing perspective but we need to do better at the T+C's
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Old 18-08-2020, 06:22 PM   #3
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and how do you propose we do that? stop buying their stuff, when so many businesses rely on China to supply them.
You mean to say that the $179 Ned Kelly Hoselink Starter kit isn't made from real kangaroo paw?

And here I am paying good dollarydoos for it.

*Cancels order*

Being slightly more helpful. I'm starting up a home micro-buisness and I"m very sure that plenty of others are too. In my case you don't need to go to Asia to buy Goldfish or mystery snails anymore, just buy them from me. Once I've started breeding 1,000 fish per month. 100% disease free, I actually put the time and effort into medicating them.

The neat trick is getting the fish to you in time enough for them to survive being shipped and staying a week in an Auspost depot.

Where would I be without medication? flatlined, I nearly lost a breeding pair this week and without buying Erthromycin in bulk a year ago I would've not had the medication to cure them. Turned out to be a combination of blueplanet multicure and erythromycin every day +100% WC that cured them of a nasty case of cottonmouth and the infection spread internally. Cottonmouth aka columnaris.

I'm really screwed now though because I have one 50g container of Erythromycin left and the only place you can get it cheaply is from China/HK off eBay or the USA and you pay nearly $500 to get it from the USA.

The US brands are Mardel Maracyn & API Erythromycin. https://apifishcare.com/product/e-m-erythromycin

So if I get another outbreak I'll have to rely soley on the Blue Planet Multicure.

As for the food I'm not 100% sure what the suppliers of Aqua One are but I sure hope that they don't import anything from overseas.

As for feeding my snails I need a steady supply of powdered calcium, powdered purple sweet potato, Agar Agar (from India) and a few other ingredients to make Snail Jello (to feed snails, I don't eat snails)

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Old 18-08-2020, 09:04 PM   #4
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As for the food I'm not 100% sure what the suppliers of Aqua One are but I sure hope that they don't import anything from overseas.)
The importer’s name is Kong, so you can take a guess where their stuff comes from. We’ve got one of their setups.

I installed a UV Steriliser in my daughter’s aquarium about 7 years ago after a bout of white spot cleaned out all the fish, and there have been no infections since. They’re worth it.
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Old 19-08-2020, 10:18 AM   #5
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The importer’s name is Kong, so you can take a guess where their stuff comes from. We’ve got one of their setups.
I'm aware of Kong's Pty Ltd. Doesn't mean that they import their foodstuffs from China though.

I did find some Aus fish food manufacturers:
https://www.blackworms.com.au/Search...s.asp?Cat=1477
https://www.windsorfishhatchery.com....h-aussie-food/
https://www.woodvalefishandlilyfarm....cts/fish-food/


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I installed a UV Steriliser in my daughter’s aquarium about 7 years ago after a bout of white spot cleaned out all the fish, and there have been no infections since. They’re worth it.
Glad to hear that the white spot parasite got cleared out with a UV sterilizer Now don't forget to replace the globe at the 10 year mark. Sounds like you successfully broke the life cycle of the white spot parasite.

I can't afford that many UV sterilizers though (too many tanks) and nor would I want them as UV sterilizers are hit or miss on weather or not they will deal with a parasite or bacterial infection and that 7w or 13w per sterilizer adds up really quick. They will sterilize the water passing in to the UV filter but they won't deal with the parasites in the substrate or attached to the bottom of the tank or the parasites attached to the side of the fish.

I also know someone with a massive UV sterilizer and it does nothing for the bacteria and parasites in his centralized system.

I don't have a parasite problem anyway, aside from the Columnaris outbreak that came from a net which was placed in a quarantine tank I'm 100% disease free. And I've dealt with the net problem by setting up a bucket with some chlorine in it for the nets to soak and I've treated all of the affected tanks with Erythromycin/Multi-Cure.

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