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I don't know how they could confidently and comfortably write off the new Focus, considering its an all new car, engine and transmission. Poor form IMO. Whats the story with the Mondeo, abysmal figures there. Yet superior in everyway to the horrid small SUVs that people have transitioned to from conventional sedans/wagons. |
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How long until the fwd passenger car section is discontinued?
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The opinion referred to near new cars made since the double clutch disaster. But i take your point. It could be that the only fords that went through that shop were a bit neglected by their owners and showing unusual signs of wear. He wasnt too keen on the escape either. But based on what ive read theres not a lot wrong with them. So i try not to take what he says as gospel. Shame the mondeo/fusion never sold well here. Seems a decent enough car. Though its demise, along with a bunch of other sedans, makes me nervous. Its a big call to cease developing product based on trend projection.
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It reminds me of the FG2 Falcon and Territory and it’s sliding sales, suspicion of Ford making no effort to sell and market them, seems like the same story here, or multi brand franchises steering people to other makes and models(?). |
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Maybe our market isnt big enough to warrant Ford's marketing dollar anymore.
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https://www.caradvice.com.au/647502/...nissan-navara/ The Merc offers better suspension, interior, infotainment (new word!) Safety, and full size pallet space, but also lacks some feature the Nissan has. cost of ownership is where it really fails, simply not worth the extra coin IMO. unless you go all out on an X350
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ie. new E Class plug in hybrid with 155kw/350nm 2.0 turbo petrol which returns 2.5l/100km, through to the new 3.0 turbo 6 petrol at 270kw and 500nm. Be good to see that with perhaps the 2.1 turbo diesel at 150kw and 510nm and their 9 speed auto with low range standard right through to the inline 6 diesels and petrol turbos in a double cab Ute. Air bags and coils all round to improve ride quality and payload etc. instead they brought out a half arsed attempt in a field of mediocrity. |
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Thanks EBSXR6. We have also taken an Escape Titanium AWD over the weekend and it appears that this is the vehicle for us. My wife had a look at a Focus Active and said it didn't appear to be that much higher off the ground but the interior was "poor man" in relation to the Focus/Escape Titanium.
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Ford was forced to get rid of it and go with a Ford/GM co-developed torque converter automatics.. The skinny version, 1.5 EB 8F15 8-speed auto is Ford's evolution of Ford/GM 6-speed auto co-development (2006-) 2.0 EB 8F35 8-speed auto co-developed with GM 9T50 9-speed auto but with 4th gear eliminated. |
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It's sad seeing Ford so far adrift like that.
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While I don't agree that Powershift was that bad, this is exactly right. That is why I will continue to drive and buy Fords, because I believe they make great products, especially those sourced from Europe.
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thing until forced to do so. As far as I know they have never really admitted that there was no permanent fix for powershift, they can make it better for longer but eventually it will cause trouble again... For all of that, I believe the market is fairly forgiving, just start delivering great vehicles and treat customers with respect an most of that" bad air" will stay in the past thanks to moving to a proper 6AT in the Focus back in 2015, I think Fiesta with 1.5 had powershift too but the 1.0 EB has the 6F15 auto. We are pretty much stuck with meh products until Ford reconfigures products coming out of Europe which is pretty much the home room for most global products - I like the look of new Escape and the Puma is a knock off of CX-3. The other issue of course is Ford's pricing, great to have premium products but don't expect sales to be al that good.. dealers must be wondering if they are ever going to get anything they can sell in decent numbers..... Ranger was really needed for our market and that's why Ford Aust had so much say in what they wanted for our market back in 2011 but what they need to do now is take that knowledge and apply it to Europe's coming vehicles before they get here. Last edited by jpd80; 08-05-2019 at 10:12 AM. |
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Medium car segment is interesting as some of the players have been been relocated
to other segments due to engine capacity or premium pricing but if were to ignore those differences and just focus on actual car size the sales peck order would be 1. Toyota Camry...........1274 2. Holden Commodore.....629 3. Mercedes C-Class..371 4. Mazda 6..............205 5. BMW 3 Series.......192 6. Kia Stinger...........160 7. Skoda Octavia......154 8. Audi A4...............129 9. Hyundai Sonata......82 10.Lexus ES...............82 11.Ford Mondeo..........76 There's a quick half life going on with those sales, from 1st to 4th place, the sales drop quickly from 1274 to 205 just like that, the next four places sees sales drop from 192 to 129 and then the sub 100 club, Mondeo doesn't even make it into the top 10. Last edited by jpd80; 11-05-2019 at 01:00 PM. |
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C class is Mercedes fleet of choice at head office.
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