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Old 11-10-2011, 09:07 PM   #1
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Default FG XR6 producing most torque in the world from an NA 6 (stock)

going by the 421nm on 98 octane i cant find a car with more torque from an NA 6 engine.

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How much did the 4.9 L six fitted to F100s in the 80s/90s make? It might run it close for low down torque. Still, a pretty compelling reason not to switch to D37!
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Porsche Carrera S comes close with

420nm
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How much did the 4.9 L six fitted to F100s in the 80s/90s make? It might run it close for low down torque. Still, a pretty compelling reason not to switch to D37!

going by this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_F-Series

359nm
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Highest Torque does not mean much when other 6 cyl cars have a higher AUC due to keeping and making more power at higher rev's.

Remember, the Ford I6 makes more power then the BMW V8 powering the M3. Torque isnt everything.
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Any diesels out there? Have to give it a run for its money
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http://www.chargerclubofwa.asn.au/me...asp?iMediaID=7

4.3ltrs of tripple carby bliss.
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Highest Torque does not mean much when other 6 cyl cars have a higher AUC due to keeping and making more power at higher rev's.

Remember, the Ford I6 makes more power then the BMW V8 powering the M3. Torque isnt everything.

i realise it isnt everything but it helps alot for accelleration, im just curious if there is a NA 6 with more torque than it?
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Nothing has more torque than an internet forum !
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Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

368kw, 460nm, 1,360kg.

A proper performance car.









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going by the 421nm on 98 octane i cant find a car with more torque from an NA 6 engine.
Where did Ford quote 421 nm on 98 for the I-6, I'm curious to see?

I know they were quoting 405 nm on 95.......
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Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

368kw, 460nm, 1,360kg.

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dont get me wrong the RS is mindblowing but
your'e comparing a $38,000 car to $330,000
you like to take little shots at me because im on my ps and drive a NA xr6... with close to your power output and is worth more just putting it out there i wouldnt say your 6 year old falcon is any head of mine... rekon you can keep the smartass comments to yourself? id rather add than argue

good work my little keyboard warrior
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Where did Ford quote 421 nm on 98 for the I-6, I'm curious to see?

I know they were quoting 405 nm on 95.......

ive read it from a few reviews, its also on wiki and my dealer confirmed it.

quick google search should show
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Ill quote myself to get some attention.320 foot pounds=433.861743453NM.

Like I said,pure bliss.I think these were only 4k new thoughYou know what I mean.
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Ill quote myself to get some attention.320 foot pounds=433.861743453NM.

Like I said,pure bliss.I think these were only 4k new thoughYou know what I mean.


just had a look through, id never even heard of that car! ahah how much will one set you back now?
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ive read it from a few reviews, its also on wiki and my dealer confirmed it.

quick google search should show
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These figures rise to 208 kW (279 hp) and 420 N·m (310 lb·ft) on premium 98 octane fuel.

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Highest Torque does not mean much when other 6 cyl cars have a higher AUC due to keeping and making more power at higher rev's.

Remember, the Ford I6 makes more power then the BMW V8 powering the M3. Torque isnt everything.
On paper, the FPV I6T makes more power than the M3 by 1 KW, Sounds good ? but to put that into perspective the M3 (with the same 4L capacity) does it without forced induction. There is no comparison.
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dont get me wrong the RS is mindblowing but
your'e comparing a $38,000 car to $330,000
you like to take little shots at me because im on my ps and drive a NA xr6... with close to your power output and is worth more just putting it out there i wouldnt say your 6 year old falcon is any head of mine... rekon you can keep the smartass comments to yourself? id rather add than argue

good work my little keyboard warrior
It doesnt make it any less of a Naturally Aspirated 6 cylinder engine.

Defensive much?
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On paper, the FPV I6T makes more power than the M3 by 1 KW, Sounds good ? but to put that into perspective the M3 (with the same 4L capacity) does it without forced induction. There is no comparison.
Sure, but as well as being turbocharged, the F6 engine makes an extra 150 or so extra NM of torque over the M3 V8 which makes up for its lower red line.

However, I was comparing the I6N/A, not the I6T.
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http://inflationdata.com/inflation/i...Calculator.asp

$4300 in 1972 is apparently $23K in todays money.

Not bad for a performance car, costs less than todays mid range small cars.
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I wish I could get an E49 for $23k.
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Andddddd you have to remember the F6 is heavily detuned from factory unlike the M3 its running at its peak
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dont get me wrong the RS is mindblowing but
your'e comparing a $38,000 car to $330,000
you like to take little shots at me because im on my ps and drive a NA xr6... with close to your power output and is worth more just putting it out there i wouldnt say your 6 year old falcon is any head of mine... rekon you can keep the smartass comments to yourself? id rather add than argue

good work my little keyboard warrior
If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question. You original post made no reference to price - just maximum torque value.
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There is actually a wiki page that states that the I6 makes 100 GAZZILLON newtonkilometres even before you start it running on Bundy Rum.

Well there will be in a few minutes when I make it up.......
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Sure, but as well as being turbocharged, the F6 engine makes an extra 150 or so extra NM of torque over the M3 V8 which makes up for its lower red line.

However, I was comparing the I6N/A, not the I6T.
you said... "Remember, the Ford I6 makes more power then the BMW V8 powering the M3"

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I wish I could get an E49 for $23k.
I sold mine for 40k, lol. It did pay off my first house thought. So much torque down low, made all the V8s I had seem weak. A bit like the F6 does to V8s down low now!
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going by the 421nm on 98 octane i cant find a car with more torque from an NA 6 engine.
Yep no mention as to price so the Porsche wins!! Owned by his own thread
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you said... "Remember, the Ford I6 makes more power then the BMW V8 powering the M3"

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Oops, I meant more torque, my bad.
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