Falcon doomed from 2010

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by EF_6

True i forgot that was coming...How time flies... And we already know the excise will be pushed towards the 12.5c extra price at the pump.....
Not sure about petrol/diesel increases but as a general rule as long as LPG is 'half' the pump price of petrol at time of purchase you are saving at least 30% of what your petrol would have cost.. Plus cleaner emissions...And the new injection systems are making full 50% saving now..... Though as said Diesel has the 'low maintenance' advantage..

Seems that fuel with Ethanol will have an excise on it.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

The trouble with hybrids or EV's generally is that car makers are trying to shoehorn the systems into existing legacy vehicle architecture that revolves around an internal combustion engine, trans tunnel, and wheel arches that more or less have to be in certain locations.

If the car was a clean sheet design for EV or hybrids from the outset, they could do away with a lot of those legacy design requirements and introduce some outside the box thinking...

Exactly. Something like the 918 Spyder Hybrid from Porsche! But this is getting way off topic

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Seems that fuel with Ethanol will have an excise on it.

Which given that E10 was only ~3 cents a litre cheaper then Normal unleaded last time I looked, and gives worse fuel economy, basically kills the financial case in my opinion.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Seems that fuel with Ethanol will have an excise on it.

Yes, it will but the Australian producers will also get a subsidy/offset paid to them which is equal to the excise. This will continue for a few years.

Basically, it is to allow the Australian producers a leg up over the imported ethanol to establish themselves.

Essentially, there should be NO change at the bowser, provided that retailer was using Australian ethanol.

I also agree that with ethanol fuels burning at 3% higher per 10% ethanol content that it doesn't really make much sense to switch at present.

As a performance fuel, it's hard to top for high-compression & forced induction motors.

But, again this is getting off topic.