Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-09-2023, 07:07 PM   #1
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,393
Default Toorak Tyre attacks

https://7news.com.au/news/vic/reside...ak--c-11770983

"A number of cars in Melbourne’s southeast have had their tyres deflated by an environmental activist group.

Up to 20 four-wheel drives and SUVs near Tintern Ave, Toorak were targeted on Thursday night and Friday morning."



Makes you wonder how ape they would go if they knew about this:

https://energyandcleanair.org/public...the-bandwagon/
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 01-09-2023, 07:22 PM   #2
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,380
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

No it wasn't me
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 01-09-2023, 07:44 PM   #3
ozpacman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Trinity Beach FNQ
Posts: 805
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

I'd love the opportunity to offer some meaningful counselling to an activist I caught letting my tyres down...
ozpacman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 01-09-2023, 08:13 PM   #4
mad2
Regular...with metamusal
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Geeeloong
Posts: 5,959
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

at least they weren't drilled like over in the good 'ol usa......
mad2 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 01-09-2023, 09:30 PM   #5
MITCHAY
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,322
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

As a I said in the other thread, can't wait for them to be caught and flogged
MITCHAY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 03:18 PM   #6
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,262
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

If the group have admitted responsibility, surely they can be charged?

It's vandalism and a crime so not sure why they aren't already in custody.

They should make examples out of them. If it goes unchecked it will only escalate.

Police need to grow some.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 04:00 PM   #7
mad2
Regular...with metamusal
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Geeeloong
Posts: 5,959
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
If the group have admitted responsibility, surely they can be charged?

It's vandalism and a crime so not sure why they aren't already in custody.

They should make examples out of them. If it goes unchecked it will only escalate.

Police need to grow some.

to charge 'someone' .. they would need to workout who..

and yes it will 'escalate' no end.
mad2 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 04:09 PM   #8
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,262
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Surely an organisation that conducts illegal activities can be held to account?

A company car that gets caught speeding subjects that company to a punishment unless they give up the individual. Surely a similar course of action exists?
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 05:01 PM   #9
mad2
Regular...with metamusal
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Geeeloong
Posts: 5,959
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
Surely an organisation that conducts illegal activities can be held to account?

A company car that gets caught speeding subjects that company to a punishment unless they give up the individual. Surely a similar course of action exists?

is the actual organisation based overseas?.
mad2 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 05:07 PM   #10
jpd80
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpd80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,157
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Thoughtful contributions to our community 
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
Surely an organisation that conducts illegal activities can be held to account?

A company car that gets caught speeding subjects that company to a punishment unless they give up the individual. Surely a similar course of action exists?
Reading how the various states treat this interference is interesting, I think the reason
they go for deflating tyres is to avoid malicious damage, this could be fixed if every state
got together and made it a fine of say, $500 per tyre deflated, something that stings a bit
but also put a good behaviour bond in there of say 6 months and $2,000.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...es-tyres-down#
jpd80 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 06:20 PM   #11
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,380
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
Reading how the various states treat this interference is interesting, I think the reason
they go for deflating tyres is to avoid malicious damage, this could be fixed if every state
got together and made it a fine of say, $500 per tyre deflated, something that stings a bit
but also put a good behaviour bond in there of say 6 months and $2,000.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...es-tyres-down#
Note how keen the police are to do something about this one, if it happened in the Western suburbs you'd get laughed out the police station reporting this
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 06:27 PM   #12
Dr Terry
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,306
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
Reading how the various states treat this interference is interesting, I think the reason
they go for deflating tyres is to avoid malicious damage, this could be fixed if every state
got together and made it a fine of say, $500 per tyre deflated, something that stings a bit
but also put a good behaviour bond in there of say 6 months and $2,000.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...es-tyres-down#
I still think that flogging is more appropriate.

Dr Terry
Dr Terry is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 06:29 PM   #13
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,262
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

I wonder who would face charges if you caught the person on your property and 'persuaded' them to leave, in such a way that they need to call for a ride home due to being unable to move themselves...

If you're on someone's property uninvited, and the property owner assaults you (because they feared for their life), I wonder who would be painted as the criminal?
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 07:10 PM   #14
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,380
Thumbs up Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
I wonder who would face charges if you caught the person on your property and 'persuaded' them to leave, in such a way that they need to call for a ride home due to being unable to move themselves...

If you're on someone's property uninvited, and the property owner assaults you (because they feared for their life), I wonder who would be painted as the criminal?
This guy beat an intruder with a bat, who eventually died

Quote:
Mr Cox was beaten with a baseball bat and was incapacitated on the floor, where Holland then raped him.

His body was found at the scene under a pile of blankets a day later by police, who arrived at the property on an unrelated matter.

He was hogtied, his mouth was duct taped and his pants were pulled down to his upper thighs.

In March, a jury convicted Holland of one charge of rape, but he was found not guilty of manslaughter.
https://www.sheppnews.com.au/nationa...ruder-in-home/

He got off on the manslaughter charge, but convicted for the rape on the intruder, the only reason he got convicted for the rape was he bragged about it to others.

This was a burglary gone wrong (for the home intruder), if you beat someone who let down your tyres I'd say the courts would take a very dim view on the situation.

But hey I've seen a guy who beat his ex wife to a pulp who had an AVO out against him score $550 and a no conviction recorded for it in my local Magistrates Court, so maybe you could do a number on the tyre deflators at a great price

What price would we all put on it to be able to send the tyre deflators on a trip to the ICU? I'd be happy with a no conviction recorded and donate $3000 to Fines Victoria.

Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 02-09-2023 at 07:20 PM.
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 07:11 PM   #15
kypez
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
kypez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,185
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Wonder if SUVs are the target or the drive type? Will they target EV SUVs next? V8'S?
__________________
My Ford Family...
2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes
2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue
kypez is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 08:06 PM   #16
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,341
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
I wonder who would face charges if you caught the person on your property and 'persuaded' them to leave, in such a way that they need to call for a ride home due to being unable to move themselves...

If you're on someone's property uninvited, and the property owner assaults you (because they feared for their life), I wonder who would be painted as the criminal?
Don't go there, the law can be an a** at times not being in your favour.
Itsme is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 08:23 PM   #17
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,262
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

I wasn't thinking anything extreme like the examples given, nor would I ever resort to violence myself.

I just find it frustrating that these groups can't get shut down, even though they are trespassing and damaging property and could even cause serious injury if the owner of the vehicle wasn't aware their tyres had been deflated.

Yet if the property owner decided to take action it's a fair chance they'd become the offending party. Mostly with swift action from authorities.

People take matters in to their own hands because the laws seem to protect the wrong people.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 08:44 PM   #18
CyberWasp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
CyberWasp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

I am waiting for the day when the majority take the world back.

Minority groups are running riot and the time is coming when they will all be put back in their place.

The climate on earth has been changing since day 1 in both directions.

How do these peanuts think the last ice age ended. That is some serious climate change.

It certainly wasn't because of man or large SUV's.
__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed
2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed
2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto
CyberWasp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 02-09-2023, 09:35 PM   #19
kypez
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
kypez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,185
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberWasp View Post
.

It certainly wasn't because of man or large SUV's.
Not to digress but the issue is that we have a small window to exist within and if the world is naturally changing, it would be silly of us to add to the change and speed our extinction up.

The planet will be fine. We won't be.

Love this guy

https://youtu.be/7W33HRc1A6c?si=7Ocyxhz2UImsKZyX
__________________
My Ford Family...
2014 GT-F, Manual, Kinetic with Black Stripes
2021 Mustang Mach 1, Manual, Velocity Blue

Last edited by kypez; 02-09-2023 at 09:43 PM.
kypez is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 09:49 PM   #20
yanknbank
Very regular
 
yanknbank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lost in the space time contiuum.
Posts: 388
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Terry View Post
I still think that flogging is more appropriate.

Dr Terry
That’s right after they’ve been keel hauled, then strung up, drawn and quartered. Even that’s too good for them. Arseholes.
__________________
G6E Turbo Ego Cashmere .....The velvet sledgehammer
yanknbank is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 09:57 PM   #21
Citroënbender
DIY Tragic
 
Citroënbender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
Posts: 20,898
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: Your outstanding contributions to this community have not gone unnoticed. IN my view you are a worthy recipient of the (rarely used) Chairman's Award. 
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Were the valves removed or loosened, or just the air released?
Citroënbender is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 10:02 PM   #22
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,380
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Citroënbender View Post
Were the valves removed or loosened, or just the air released?
There was people on r/Melbourne on Reddit advocating to do this to American ute owners and linking to the valve core removal tool to buy.

This mindset is spreading, I'm expecting to see more of this sort of low level assholery from the intelligentsia.

I'd say most people are just holding the valve in, you'd have to be a special kind of knob to remove the valve.
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 10:20 PM   #23
Citroënbender
DIY Tragic
 
Citroënbender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
Posts: 20,898
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: Your outstanding contributions to this community have not gone unnoticed. IN my view you are a worthy recipient of the (rarely used) Chairman's Award. 
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

What did most of the people whose cars were affected, do?

Were the cars towed to workshops, or was the road service doing call-outs?
Citroënbender is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 11:50 PM   #24
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,341
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Citroënbender View Post
What did most of the people whose cars were affected, do?

Were the cars towed to workshops, or was the road service doing call-outs?
Some tyre contractor was called in and by the sounds of things he was really busy, I think all the locals wasted no time using his services.
Itsme is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-09-2023, 11:53 PM   #25
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,341
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by prydey View Post
I wasn't thinking anything extreme like the examples given, nor would I ever resort to violence myself.

I just find it frustrating that these groups can't get shut down, even though they are trespassing and damaging property and could even cause serious injury if the owner of the vehicle wasn't aware their tyres had been deflated.

Yet if the property owner decided to take action it's a fair chance they'd become the offending party. Mostly with swift action from authorities.

People take matters in to their own hands because the laws seem to protect the wrong people.
If you thinking of retribution just don't get recognised & caught, make sure you give them something not to forget..... lol
Itsme is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-09-2023, 01:03 PM   #26
Dr Terry
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,306
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by yanknbank View Post
That’s right after they’ve been keel hauled, then strung up, drawn and quartered. Even that’s too good for them. Arseholes.
That's the spirit !!

Dr Terry
Dr Terry is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-09-2023, 01:10 PM   #27
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,393
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
This guy beat an intruder with a bat, who eventually died



https://www.sheppnews.com.au/nationa...ruder-in-home/

He got off on the manslaughter charge, but convicted for the rape on the intruder, the only reason he got convicted for the rape was he bragged about it to others.

This was a burglary gone wrong (for the home intruder), if you beat someone who let down your tyres I'd say the courts would take a very dim view on the situation.

But hey I've seen a guy who beat his ex wife to a pulp who had an AVO out against him score $550 and a no conviction recorded for it in my local Magistrates Court, so maybe you could do a number on the tyre deflators at a great price

What price would we all put on it to be able to send the tyre deflators on a trip to the ICU? I'd be happy with a no conviction recorded and donate $3000 to Fines Victoria.
that's Pulp Fiction level degeneration
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 03-09-2023, 05:09 PM   #28
MrEL
Sick Puppy
 
MrEL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,963
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberWasp View Post
I am waiting for the day when the majority take the world back.

Minority groups are running riot and the time is coming when they will all be put back in their place.

The climate on earth has been changing since day 1 in both directions.

How do these peanuts think the last ice age ended. That is some serious climate change.

It certainly wasn't because of man or large SUV's.
Didnt the iceage end because the wooly mammoth was driving a supercharged big block Monaro to work everyday and the cavemans wife run the aircon all the time in the cave?
MrEL is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 03-09-2023, 08:33 PM   #29
CyberWasp
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
CyberWasp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,621
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

Every time they deflate a street of tyres just use a petrol / diesel powered generator to power an air compressor to pump them back up again.
__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed
2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed
2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto
CyberWasp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-09-2023, 11:24 PM   #30
GO FURTHER
Moderator
Donating Member3
 
GO FURTHER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,940
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Fitting New Iridium Plugs & the state of the old ones - (Photo Essay) 
Default Re: Toorak Tyre attacks

This is their website:

https://www.tyreextinguishers.com/
GO FURTHER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL