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Old 18-02-2021, 12:17 AM   #1
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So a while a made a towing thread.

I used mine tonight to help a mate - seriously it had no problems whatsoever? Literally no issues not felt stressing anything.

It wasn't a big one (mine a Haymen Reece) but 2 Tonne or so.

Mine grabbed and ran it beautiful.

TlDr- the ratings are full of ****. My old XRT could never tow as well as too soft on the back but *rated* higher.
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So a while a made a towing thread.

I used mine tonight to help a mate - seriously it had no problems whatsoever? Literally no issues not felt stressing anything.

It wasn't a big one (mine a Haymen Reece) but 2 Tonne or so.

Mine grabbed and ran it beautiful.

TlDr- the ratings are full of ****. My old XRT could never tow as well as too soft on the back but *rated* higher.
Are you Fiji? Just asking...
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Old 18-02-2021, 12:24 AM   #3
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Are you Fiji? Just asking...
What?

I'm simply saying my car "can't" pull a caravan due to to ball weight which is complete rubbish.

Don't insult me again.
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Old 18-02-2021, 12:26 AM   #4
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I'm sorry, I just don't get what your thread has to do with Ford Forums, my mistake.

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Old 18-02-2021, 10:16 AM   #5
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XR6T is supposed to use a weight distribution hitch when towing over 1600 kg. That was part of the heavy duty tow kit. Now if you decide not to follow Ford's recommendation, that's not the cars fault.

And there is so much more to towing than just the weight of the trailer or ball weight. Its distribution plays a huge part. You're comparing unequally things.

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Just because it will do it, doesn't mean it should.

But you know better than VW's engineers though, right?
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so they can tow 2.2 tonne, you towed 2 tonne, it towed, what are we all wasting our time over?
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I tow a Van with my G6ET, using the weight distribution hitch. Not a problem and it tows very well. My last trip returned 10.4L/100km.
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Just because it will do it, doesn't mean it should.

But you know better than VW's engineers though, right?
It meets all manufacturer requirements outside the tiny ball weight. (which I've been told is complete nonsense and a Euro car issue)

The car and bar is rated to tow that van and it did easily.
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so they can tow 2.2 tonne, you towed 2 tonne, it towed, what are we all wasting our time over?
If you read the previous thread (I couldn't find it but had heaps of different opinions) it's the tiny tow ball weight it apparently isn't allowed to.

My pro advice said to ignore that figure and look at the other two.

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I'm sorry, I just don't get what your thread has to do with Ford Forums, my mistake.
Because I love this place after having 10 years with an Xr6T and my favourite car ever.

I have no interest joining a VW forum now that's what I drive (the R36 a special model the rest of range do nothing for me unlike Fords). I still enjoy discussing cars here in the Pub and Bar area.

Sorry for the confusion mate.

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If you read the previous thread (I couldn't find it but had heaps of different opinions) it's the tiny tow ball weight it apparently isn't allowed to.

My pro advice said to ignore that figure and look at the other two.

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It meets all manufacturer requirements outside the tiny ball weight. (which I've been told is complete nonsense and a Euro car issue)

The car and bar is rated to tow that van and it did easily.
would an insurance company think the same ??
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Old 18-02-2021, 07:28 PM   #13
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would an insurance company think the same ??
Apparently yes not a problem at all.

They don't even look at it as irrelevant number plus no owner would realise anyway as bar and car towing weight is what owners look at.
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Apparently yes not a problem at all.

They don't even look at it as irrelevant number plus no owner would realise anyway as bar and car towing weight is what owners look at.
was thinking more 3rd party and other people may be hurt by your ignorance
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was thinking more 3rd party and other people may be hurt by your ignorance
Mate, seriously.

Can you please stop.

I'm asking if not hoping you move on from trolling me.

The Van was safe and did it easy. As a lawyer I'm aware of the risks but no ignorance rather the tow ball weight is not taken into account if set up correctly.

Move on. Please.
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If you read the previous thread (I couldn't find it but had heaps of different opinions) it's the tiny tow ball weight it apparently isn't allowed to.

My pro advice said to ignore that figure and look at the other two.
My 'pro advice' would be to ignore Mercury T.

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Mate, seriously.

Can you please stop.

I'm asking if not hoping you move on from trolling me.

The Van was safe and did it easy. As a lawyer I'm aware of the risks but no ignorance rather the tow ball weight is not taken into account if set up correctly.

Move on. Please.
You are advocating people ignore vehicle specifications and others are calling you out on it.
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My 'pro advice' would be to ignore Mercury T.
Jeez.

Ok then.

Thanks mate.
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Ok I'll cancel the account.

No worries.

Thanks again.
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Mate, seriously.

Can you please stop.

I'm asking if not hoping you move on from trolling me.

The Van was safe and did it easy. As a lawyer I'm aware of the risks but no ignorance rather the tow ball weight is not taken into account if set up correctly.

Move on. Please.
part of the 'set up' is not ignoring recommended tow ball weight

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part of the 'set up' is not ignoring recommended tow ball weight

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Apparently tow ball weight on many Euros ridiculously low - can barely tow an empty trailer.

I refuse to argue any further.

All I'll say it's bullshjt as I've seen heaps of VWs pull Caravans and mine one of the most powerful and strongest of all.
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Apparently tow ball weight on many Euros ridiculously low - can barely tow an empty trailer.

I refuse to argue any further.


All I'll say it's bullshjt as I've seen heaps of VWs pull Caravans and mine one of the most powerful and strongest of all.
Good, that means I can have the final say.

Thread closed. Please ignore what Mercury T is advocating.

Even lawyers give bad advice sometimes.

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