MB Mondeo transmission type

FPV0002 · 21-03-2019, 09:31 PM

Hi everyone, we have a 2010 MB Mondeo titanium in the family, 2.0 diesel but I’m struggling to find out any details on the transmission type fitted and if it’s the PowerShift or if that was fitted to the later models. Any tips on how I can easily tell? TIA

GTLEGEND · 21-03-2019, 11:18 PM

Wet Clutch MPS6 Powershift was fitted to Mondeo from 1/4/2010 and only in certain models. If you can pass on your VIN we can confirm what is in your vehicle. Otherwise it will have the AWF21 traditional auto transmission.

cyclone1410 · 22-03-2019, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV0002

Hi everyone, we have a 2010 MB Mondeo titanium in the family, 2.0 diesel but I’m struggling to find out any details on the transmission type fitted and if it’s the PowerShift or if that was fitted to the later models. Any tips on how I can easily tell? TIA

If it is a Powershift it will probably say so on the gear shift lever.

FPV0002 · 22-03-2019, 08:21 PM

Thanks GT legend, I will grab the VIN and post when I next get a chance..
Otherwise no indication anywhere on the car that I can identify to confirm if it is or not. The owners manual includes both trans types but does not specify which one ours is fitted with.

NZ XR6 · 22-03-2019, 11:41 PM

The Powershift is quite different to drive as it doesn't have a torque converter. It feels like a manual with an automatic clutch - you don't get the revs changing like a normal auto.

If you've driven both you'd know instantly but it's difficult to describe.

bundybear75 · 27-03-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NZ XR6

The Powershift is quite different to drive as it doesn't have a torque converter. It feels like a manual with an automatic clutch - you don't get the revs changing like a normal auto.

If you've driven both you'd know instantly but it's difficult to describe.

I describe it (especially on hills) as like a learner driver driving a manual.

FPV0002 · 31-03-2019, 09:09 AM

Well I’m confident it’s not a PowerShift trans as it drives the same as a conventional auto, there are no visible markings or branding to suggest it is. The reason I ask is recently the gearbox has become quite sloppy and hesitant when stopping/starting. A bit erratic under acceleration. Am getting it serviced this week as car has now done 140k and I’m guessing is well overdue for a transmission service.

izaak · 02-04-2019, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV0002

Well I’m confident it’s not a PowerShift trans as it drives the same as a conventional auto, there are no visible markings or branding to suggest it is. The reason I ask is recently the gearbox has become quite sloppy and hesitant when stopping/starting. A bit erratic under acceleration. Am getting it serviced this week as car has now done 140k and I’m guessing is well overdue for a transmission service.

Definitely keen to get updates on this. As far as i'm aware, auto trans services only really involve changing the fluid. If the trans is slipping and hesitating, a fluid change could actually make it perform even worse - if the root cause is the loss of adhered grit on the various slip discs inside the trans. see this excellent youtube video that talks about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690DovjDAc
Would like to know how you go, what the mechanic thinks after they've driven it and had a poke around

FPV0002 · 02-04-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by izaak

Definitely keen to get updates on this. As far as i'm aware, auto trans services only really involve changing the fluid. If the trans is slipping and hesitating, a fluid change could actually make it perform even worse - if the root cause is the loss of adhered grit on the various slip discs inside the trans. see this excellent youtube video that talks about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690DovjDAc
Would like to know how you go, what the mechanic thinks after they've driven it and had a poke around

No problems, I will post an update once serviced, if it is anything more sinister than this I will have to weight up what needs to be done to get it sorted.

cobrin · 03-04-2019, 10:29 AM

here's a pic of my '09 MB AWF21: (scroll down a bit)

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11442028

FPV0002 · 03-04-2019, 12:02 PM

Picked up car after all of about an hour at the local trans 'specialist'. He's said it's a power shift model and has taken it for a quick drive and wants nothing to do with it.. too hard it seems which has ****ed me off quite a bit after waiting 2 weeks for a booking. Absolutely less than no help really. Still want to confirm if it's a power shift model, VIN is WF0EXXGBBEAJ15341 build may 2010. Is a titanium diesel 2.0

FPV0002 · 03-04-2019, 01:31 PM

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cobrin · 03-04-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV0002

VIN is WF0EXXGBBEAJ15341

here ya go, its a Powershift as you were told:

Primary Features

Build Date: 01.06.2010
Vehicle Line: Mondeo 2007-2014
Body Style: 5 Door Saloon
Version: Series 60
Engine: 2.0L Duratorq DOHC(150/163PS)-DW10C
Transmission: 6 Speed Powershift 6DCT450 - MPS6
Drive: RHD FWD
Emission: Stage V Emissions
Air Conditioning: Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Territory: (+)"AUS"
Paint: Frozen White Interior
Fabric: Alcantara / Ebony

Minor Features

Less Rear Mudflaps
Less Front Mudflaps
With Hill Launch Assist
With Standard Liftgate
(-) Version Packages
Genk Plant Build
Less Security Lock Group
Less Special Equipment Package
Less Fleet Options
Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
Less Special Order Paint
Marketing Level 1
Full Dress Up RSO Less Rear Spoiler
(-) SVP
Less Safety Packs
Less SIP
(-) Econetic - SIP
Less 'Autumn' SVP
(-)'Fuel Economy'
(-)'Black Edition'
(-) Trend Colour SVP
(-) S Edition SVP
Enhanced Interact Vehicle Dynamics
Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
With Global Closing
With Electric Rear Windows
Blue Tinted Glass - Complete
With Blue Glass Windscreen
Less Heated Windscreen
With Console Ashtray
Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
With Monotone Instrument Panel
Front Floor Carpet Mats
Rear Floor Carpet Mats
Less Sun Blinds
With Level 5 Door Trim Panel
Less Load Rest
Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
Body Colour Surround/Mesh Insert
Less Roof Rack
Rocker Panel Moulding - VP
Electric Operated Rear View Mirror
Dual P/Heat/Signal/Pud Lamp Mirror
With Front 4 Way Headrest
Less Special Front Seat Covers
Less Special Rear Seat Covers
With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
With Passengers Man Lumbar Support
Driver Heated Seat-Variable Temp
With Heated Pass Seat-Variable Temp
Less Rear Heated Seat
Less Child Integrated Seat
With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
Less Trailer Coupling
With Chrome Exterior Door Handle
With Leather Gear Shift Knob
Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
Keyfree System
With Keyless Entry System
With Automatic Windscreen Wiper
Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
Power Tilt/Slide Sun Roof
Front Bumper Sensor Device
Bumper Extension - Front-VP
With Rear Bumper Skirt
Air Curtain Restraint LH
Air Curtain Restraint RH
Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
18" Wheel - Style 2
Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
Less Wheel Covers
Non Locking Lug Nuts
With Sports Tuned Suspension
Front Spring Load Class-R
Rear Spring Load Class-G
With Chrome Exhaust Pipe Extension
Collision Mitigation System
With Brake Emergency Assist
Less Skid Plates
Sports Front Seat
With Rear Duct / B-Pillar
Less Air Purifier Sensor
With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
Less Gaseous Prep Pack
Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
With Adaptive Speed Control
Less Auxiliary Heater
Conventional Instruments - Level 3
With Perimeter Anti-Theft
With Rear Parking Aid
With Front Parking Aid
80 AH Battery
Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
High CDX6+AM/FM Radio W/Diversity
Ice Feature Pack 80
With 8 High Series Radio Speakers
Voice Activated Module - British
Less Camera
Advanced Front Lighting System
Less Daytime Running Lamps
With Front Fog Lamps - VP
With Footwell Lights
With Submarine Lighting-Interior
With 2nd Row Reading Lamps
With Automatic Headlamp On/Off

FPV0002 · 03-04-2019, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrin

here ya go, its a Powershift as you were told:

Primary Features

Build Date: 01.06.2010
Vehicle Line: Mondeo 2007-2014
Body Style: 5 Door Saloon
Version: Series 60
Engine: 2.0L Duratorq DOHC(150/163PS)-DW10C
Transmission: 6 Speed Powershift 6DCT450 - MPS6
Drive: RHD FWD
Emission: Stage V Emissions
Air Conditioning: Dual Zone Auto Temp Control A/C
Territory: (+)"AUS"
Paint: Frozen White Interior
Fabric: Alcantara / Ebony

Minor Features

Less Rear Mudflaps
Less Front Mudflaps
With Hill Launch Assist
With Standard Liftgate
(-) Version Packages
Genk Plant Build
Less Security Lock Group
Less Special Equipment Package
Less Fleet Options
Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
Less Special Order Paint
Marketing Level 1
Full Dress Up RSO Less Rear Spoiler
(-) SVP
Less Safety Packs
Less SIP
(-) Econetic - SIP
Less 'Autumn' SVP
(-)'Fuel Economy'
(-)'Black Edition'
(-) Trend Colour SVP
(-) S Edition SVP
Enhanced Interact Vehicle Dynamics
Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
With Global Closing
With Electric Rear Windows
Blue Tinted Glass - Complete
With Blue Glass Windscreen
Less Heated Windscreen
With Console Ashtray
Less Temp Controlled Glove Box
With Monotone Instrument Panel
Front Floor Carpet Mats
Rear Floor Carpet Mats
Less Sun Blinds
With Level 5 Door Trim Panel
Less Load Rest
Less Rear Screen Sun Blinds
Body Colour Surround/Mesh Insert
Less Roof Rack
Rocker Panel Moulding - VP
Electric Operated Rear View Mirror
Dual P/Heat/Signal/Pud Lamp Mirror
With Front 4 Way Headrest
Less Special Front Seat Covers
Less Special Rear Seat Covers
With Rear Seat Centre Armrest
With Passengers Man Lumbar Support
Driver Heated Seat-Variable Temp
With Heated Pass Seat-Variable Temp
Less Rear Heated Seat
Less Child Integrated Seat
With Driver 2 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
Less Rear Seat Armrest Packs
Less Trailer Coupling
With Chrome Exterior Door Handle
With Leather Gear Shift Knob
Power Door Dead Lock W/Elec Release
Keyfree System
With Keyless Entry System
With Automatic Windscreen Wiper
Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
Power Tilt/Slide Sun Roof
Front Bumper Sensor Device
Bumper Extension - Front-VP
With Rear Bumper Skirt
Air Curtain Restraint LH
Air Curtain Restraint RH
Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
18" Wheel - Style 2
Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
Less Wheel Covers
Non Locking Lug Nuts
With Sports Tuned Suspension
Front Spring Load Class-R
Rear Spring Load Class-G
With Chrome Exhaust Pipe Extension
Collision Mitigation System
With Brake Emergency Assist
Less Skid Plates
Sports Front Seat
With Rear Duct / B-Pillar
Less Air Purifier Sensor
With 70 Litre Fuel Tank
Less Gaseous Prep Pack
Soft Feel Type Steering Wheel
With Adaptive Speed Control
Less Auxiliary Heater
Conventional Instruments - Level 3
With Perimeter Anti-Theft
With Rear Parking Aid
With Front Parking Aid
80 AH Battery
Less Auxiliary Compact Disc Player
BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
High CDX6+AM/FM Radio W/Diversity
Ice Feature Pack 80
With 8 High Series Radio Speakers
Voice Activated Module - British
Less Camera
Advanced Front Lighting System
Less Daytime Running Lamps
With Front Fog Lamps - VP
With Footwell Lights
With Submarine Lighting-Interior
With 2nd Row Reading Lamps
With Automatic Headlamp On/Off

Thank you, much appreciated. Is difficult to actually find out once you start digging.

cobrin · 03-04-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV0002

Thank you, much appreciated. Is difficult to actually find out once you start digging.

No probs, that info is directly from ford.co.uk

against your VIN so it's as trustworthy as it gets. There have been a few changes with Fords system and my last login didn't work so eventually I had to get it going again.

Save those main details what ever you do.

izaak · 03-04-2019, 08:39 PM

Why is it so hard to find mechanics who actually want to do work? Hopefully you can get it sorted man

GTLEGEND · 03-04-2019, 09:10 PM

Its imperative that the wet clutch MPS6 Powershift is serviced every 60K kms. You will see a lot of failures not much after the 60K kmson these if they are not serviced correctly.

Have you tried taking it to your local Ford dealer (not sure where exactly you are) for at least some diagnosis and a quote. You may be surprised in some instances there are good dealers around.

A reputable auto trans place in Melbourne you can also try below.

https://abautomatics.com.au/

love3k · 08-09-2024, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by izaak

Why is it so hard to find mechanics who actually want to do work? Hopefully you can get it sorted man

It wastes working time and makes no money, so very few people are willing to do this kind of business, Especially in Australia.