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04-01-2007, 12:10 PM
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I plan to fit a 4 litre head to my 3.9 in my ea soonish ( Just got a eb head from Gubas at a nice price, cheers mate ), is it a str8 bolt on affair? im pretty sure it is...
I have some crow valve springs ( 125lbs ) to put on it and im thinking bout some porting and a shaving ( 40thou? ) for higher compression, How much do you guys recommend i go with the shaving on the head? And im wanting to get a wade cam, 977b or maybe 1521 cause i will have the better springs but i hear the 1521 i might need chip for ecu? Cars a stock manual with extractors and exhaust atm........ Cheers lads
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04-01-2007, 12:20 PM
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rofl copter
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40 thou is a bit much to take off the head. 977 is a bigger cam iirc and mr4.0 was running it and had to downgrade because it needs a ECU, chip isnt good enough.
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04-01-2007, 09:27 PM
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04-01-2007, 09:31 PM
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- BOOYEH -
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Yeah, but I failed. lol
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04-01-2007, 10:53 PM
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25thou would be sufficent off the head me thinks...
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05-01-2007, 12:14 AM
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What Wheelspin?
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05-01-2007, 12:33 AM
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read this... http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=51396
it's got some real good info in it! pete j |
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05-01-2007, 01:44 AM
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Wherever u go there u r
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crow 7333-6 double race springs are the ones i have incase that helps anyone....
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08-01-2007, 03:11 PM
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Come on lads im itching to get this thing off to the machinist....
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08-01-2007, 03:24 PM
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The work my head got.
- Acid dip - Slight decking / cleanup - New exhaust seats - Re-seated valves. Intake and exhaust. 3mm - Ported exhaust Flows good for 400HP. Simiar figures compared to JMM race series head, but at a 1/3 of the cost. Work done in Geelong at Johnny Dyno Engines. Cost me $550. The head I bought for $60 off some dude, who originally bought it off you Dave, but never used it :P
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08-01-2007, 03:27 PM
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You can do a bit more work around the bowl area, but that I dont really know anything about.
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08-01-2007, 07:57 PM
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eec tweaker
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how does the wade 1521a compare to the 549, the 977b and the crow 2222546?
in simple terms ie small medium large? |
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08-01-2007, 09:43 PM
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What Wheelspin?
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1521, meduim size.
549, mild 977b, mild 546, fairy big. its a speedway cam
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08-01-2007, 11:03 PM
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eec tweaker
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cheers. wondering if there's a straight forward upgrade for me (i have a 1521a)...
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08-01-2007, 11:20 PM
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What Wheelspin?
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buy my 546. its for sale at the moment in the for sale section.........
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10-01-2007, 09:51 PM
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I wonder if the 4.0 wasnt an OHC wether cam changes would happen so willy nilly?
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11-01-2007, 06:22 PM
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11-01-2007, 08:37 PM
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haha, im on to my fourth cam change this weekend........
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11-01-2007, 09:22 PM
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11-01-2007, 10:41 PM
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well in 4.0s case yes he will have more power.
he wont be beaten from 1 side of the traffic lights to the other by a kid on a push bike... hahahaha
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12-01-2007, 10:00 AM
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Correct me if i am wrong but arnt the 3.9 pistons diched more than an ef 4.0 ? If i am right on this (and im not sure) then you would need to take a fair bit of the head due to the larger combustion chamber on the 4.0 head.
Also i have a 977b in my ef it is dead stock other than slight head work and the cam and it runs perfectly well with the stock ecu. if your only in oakley your welcome to come and have a listen and a ride in it im over in narre. |
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12-01-2007, 12:01 PM
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I actually just bought a eb2 bottom end of gubas aswell ( matching bottom end to the head i got ) that i will pick up soon, im thinking of now just rebuilding a fresh motor and dropping the whole lot in, with what i want to do with the head i dont think the 3.9 bottom end will hold up for long, lol Cheers
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12-01-2007, 12:28 PM
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What Wheelspin?
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hahaa so true. this cam is way too big for me. needs better tuning, and more comp. then it would be a weapon. so until saturday (when newcam goes in. a lot smaller one) yes, i will be beaten by kids on push bikes, lol! :togo:
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12-01-2007, 12:35 PM
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Well lads im still tossing up between turbo and n/a whilst im on the rebuild mission,
I have always wanted n/a with the 6 throttle body setup and maybe power to 6500-7000rpm? lol But theres more potential for making power with turbo.... Maybe its time for a poll?
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12-01-2007, 02:05 PM
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felony, buy my crow 546 cam.
i have seen it make 270kw's. makes power to 6000rpm EASY!
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12-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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12-01-2007, 02:41 PM
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What Wheelspin?
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mate, its got 525" lift, and 233deg@50. its a speedway cam.
how big are u after in an e-series?
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12-01-2007, 02:58 PM
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It all seriousness i dont know what im after yet as i havent had much advice at this point but i think i will get the head done first and choose a cam from there according to whats been done to the head... Cheers
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12-01-2007, 03:46 PM
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Go turbo for sure if you have the cash. Theres my 2 cents haha
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See if i can crack that elusive 200rwkw mark... Cheers
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Working a 4 litre head and what cam to go with it?
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