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You read the odd comment from people on various sites saying that Australian cars are dinosaurs. Implying that they have old tech. Well which tech are we missing?!
As far as I know its just keyless start. Anything else?! I dont care about rain-sensing wipers. Do we have brake assist anywhere at Ford-AU or Holden? |
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I wouldn't saying tech is missing, I think it has more to do with the perception of the cars when compared to cheaper imports from Toyota/Mitsubishi/Hyundai etc etc
They don't look "flashy" enough
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Brake assist on Falcons and Territories, no. They do come in on the Focus' though. I'm not sure where this lack of technology is coming from either. My Falcon has a touch screen, capable for reverse sensors AND camera, bluetooth, automatic AC, sat nav electric seats, power windows. That's plenty of tech and if you have the need for more tech than that then I have no idea what to say to you. I don't need something to give me a massage while I drive, I don't need an AI to talk to me while I drive.
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I think the complaints are usually aimed at the time it takes the locals to implement the tech.
They often appear to be one step behind the imports. Using the new VF Commodore as an example. If the media is right, the US version will have more tech than the Aussie car. Not a good look for the local consumer. |
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Probably not a heap although the mondeo has a few more features. But the main thing for me would be Bi Xenons, at least on G6E/XR6T.
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For starters:
Double overhead cam 4 valve per cylinder Direct injection Blind spot monitouring. Front & rear parking sensors. HID/Zenon lights. Both front electric seats Rear Camera Radar cruise control Bluetooth streaming Intergrated satellite navigation Self Parking assist. Full set of airbags including knee airbags for driver. Proximity keyless entry and start. Heads up speedo display. Euro 5 emissions. Paddle sifts. That's all I can think of, you'll find local brands have these but not all in the same model, Falcon has one 5/10, Commodore 6/10, Aurion 7/10. When you look at imports, this will likley end up being the bear minimum in the next 24 months and imports are no longer sold on price (unless they are from China). The majority of the features, don't make a car good or bad. It's just features and benefits that help sell the car to the majority of non-enthusiasts.
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The general buying public don't like "plain and boring" and "simple to use". They'd rather have a million buttons to push and barely use them cause it looks cool.
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I buy Aussie V8’s because they are affordable compared to the imported competition.
I’d like them to be fully loaded but I’m also happy to live with just the V8 and the basic creature comforts if that’s what it takes to have them here. If I was in the market for just a family car and performance wasn’t the driving force, I’d be chasing something with as much to offer for my money as I could get. Unfortunately the imports seem to have the advantage in this area. The Euro’s with their crash avoidance systems are a big seller for my family. I’m waiting for this tech to become common place here. |
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Its all about consumer perception, getting as much bang for your buck.
The longer the list of features, the more buttons and flashing lights (regardless how useful) the more value the consumer thinks they are getting. |
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4 valve per cylinder - Falcon has this Direct injection - Falcon has this Blind spot monitouring. Front & rear parking sensors. - Ive got rear parking sensor, inc sonar display HID/Zenon lights. Both front electric seats - Falcon has this Rear Camera - Falcon has this Radar cruise control Bluetooth streaming - does latest Falcon have this?! I have no idea Intergrated satellite navigation - what do you mean by integrated? Self Parking assist. - can they do that on a RWD car? Full set of airbags including knee airbags for driver. - Falcon has airbags Proximity keyless entry and start. - I listed this already Heads up speedo display. - Commodore has this Euro 5 emissions. - that's not a technology Paddle sifts. - Falcon still has sequential shift |
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AUTO UP/DOWN WINDOWS ON EVERY WINDOW- BMW had this in the 90's on the 3 series and I know at the very least the Prado has had it for years.
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Intergrated satellite navigation - what do you mean by integrated? - From the factory not dealer fitted options (Falcon has this) Euro 5 - muted point, how many imports aren't euro 5 compliant, we seem to wait until legisltion is passed to make it manditory rather than be ahead of the game. At the end of the day its to everyone benefit that our cars are as enviro friendly as practically possible. It's just treating our market/people as 2nd class, again!
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Where can i buy a DiVCT XR6T? See i can do it too.
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What I NEED is auto up windows when I lock n leave.
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To add to that ^^
Ecoboost has DI What's the appeal of HIDs over the current projectors? Sat Nav in the ICC is about as integrated as it gets And how long do some of you blokes keep a drink in the cup holders for? Its not a fridge. Ask for more ice if drinking too fast hurts your teeth. Edit: bit slow haha Just a side not though, how much extra will the public willingly pay for a Falcon with warm cup holders and internet radio? $5k, $10k? Because at the moment they're battling hard as is. Maybe it is just tech holding it back, or maybe its just perception which has reached a point of no return. Me personally, I hope its still around in 10 years when I'm 30 and grown up with a family.
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Compare a car with HID's to a car with projectors then you will understand. Agree re cup holders.
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Some character/Mazdaman in the thread lists a stack of stuff and the Falcon already has half of it. DOHC for example. My brother's 2012 Accord Euro doesnt even have a digital speedo - that's a joke too. I would think a precision driving machine would let you do something fundamental - choose a precise speed. |
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i think the biggest tech this country could do with in cars is people who know how to drive and b considerate.keep dumbing down the thinking of driving and all u will eventually have is dumb drivers!
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Here's one the Taurus has, but we probably don't need.
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But someone who wants an EB falcon would see the DI as something the falcon has.
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Little wonder the Toreass weighs 2 tonnes.
Rollover Mitigation System in the SZ Territory has been conveniently overlooked I see. vvv Well, I wouldnt say auto up/down windows is annoying, I'd say the Falcon should have had auto up AND down for the driver at least, years ago.
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Alot of the tech that aussie cars already have is more than enough. Anything more than that is pure and utter **** factor. Good job, you have heated/cool cup holders. Your *** is warmer than my ***. You get to put up with the annoying auto up and down windows. I don't.
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Have a look at Mondeo then look at Falcon. Not forgetting how old the Mondeo is too.
Even have a look the Focus. Then just have a look at the US cars for features too. What we have here is ok for XT but once the buyer is shelling extra dollars for luxury models and GTs you expect a little more for the $$, not really there.
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They can, if they wish, argue that their engine should be judged on its output and economy, regardless of the technology. Accordingly, I suggest that if a engine has the same characteristics (power, torque, economy, weight, reliability, NVH) as a high-tech 4cylTurbo then does it really matter?! Its not my cup of tea, but it is a very compelling argument. Why do so many RX7 owners put GM V8s in their cars?! I know of 2 personally. |
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