Anyone Had Their 3000km Inspection? (WZ ST)

LeadFoot81 · 19-10-2013, 11:14 AM

Hey FiSTers,

Has anyone had their ST in for the complimentary 3000km inspection?

Anything interesting to report back?

Cheers,

mrmavx · 19-10-2013, 03:14 PM

yes i have had my 3000k service and i have nothing special to report other than i insisted on a oil filter change, i am now up to 4600 k and have had no problems at all except for an errant kangaroo which has damaged the rhs of the front bar (broke the wheel arch liner mounts and the real painfull bit is it kicked up and scratched the side of the car behind the door, back to the metal with its claws and now the whole rhs of the car is going to be resprayed next week

LeadFoot81 · 19-10-2013, 03:35 PM

Oh man that's no good. Hopefully the ST comes back to you good as new!

mrmavx · 19-10-2013, 04:08 PM

i am hoping so leadfoot, i am entrusting it to a local shop that know i am extremly fussy and also the painter there now owns my old ve ssv ute so hopefully all will be good plus shannons have been a pleasure to deal with so far. my biggest worry at the moment is that roos are in plague proportions round here and i have to to do a dawn drive of about 30k 6 days a week and i am seeing 5 or 6 freshly splattered roos every day so its becoming a real issue for anyone round my neck of the woods who is out and about after dark.

mrmavx

GeeDubF6 · 19-10-2013, 06:33 PM

Same - no issues reported. Also insisted on an oil change due to my driving style. Be warned that a factory oil change was $198...

LeadFoot81 · 19-10-2013, 06:41 PM

Fingers crossed for you mrmavx! I'm in the 'burbs at the moment so no wildlife issues for me, but will move out to the sticks at some point. It will be an interesting transition!

GeeDubF6! A hunje 98 for an oil change, wow!

Good to hear that neither of you have had any issues. Do you guys get clicking sounds from the clutch (as per ConST's thread on here?) I'm interested in hearing what the dealership says (even though I've read several times online that it's normal )

mrmavx · 19-10-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GeeDubF6

Same - no issues reported. Also insisted on an oil change due to my driving style. Be warned that a factory oil change was $198...

Thats very steep considering that the capped price servicing is published as being $245 per service

mrmavx

Pursya · 19-10-2013, 08:44 PM

If you do your own oil change, which at $200 for the official version I expect plenty to attempt, be aware of the fact Fiestas use 5w as a lower limit oil.
Most use 10w so easy to screw it up.
I'm only posting this as a WT Zee owner so please check your ST turbo oil requirements. But I've always supplied Magnatec to my mechanic and that's how I found out it was incompatible with the Fez.

trumpy73 · 20-10-2013, 12:00 PM

Castrol Edge 5W30 is the way to go anyway. I think the normal price is close to $60 but you can easily pick it up for $35 on special. + $10 filter.

It's daylight robbery paying ford $200 for a 5mins job!!

Skramit · 10-11-2013, 12:43 PM

Slightly offtopic. New FiST owner here. Is doing your own oil change easy and do I need an tools/equipment to do it? I can get cheap Mobil 1 oil from work.

LeadFoot81 · 10-11-2013, 01:42 PM

Ended up having my 3K inspection. All good! :-)

trumpy73 · 10-11-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skramit

Slightly offtopic. New FiST owner here. Is doing your own oil change easy and do I need an tools/equipment to do it? I can get cheap Mobil 1 oil from work.

Get the cheap oil from work, buy a filter from Ford, take it to a 'local' mechanic to get your oil changed and get a stamp. Otherwise you'll run the risk of being subjected to vague interpretations of the warranty rules should the need arise.

However, if this is just an 'off schedule' oil change then yeah it's pretty straight forward. All you need is a filter wrench and a socket set. Having said that, if you had to ask I'm not convinced you should be doing it.

Skramit · 10-11-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by trumpy73

Having said that, if you had to ask I'm not convinced you should be doing it.

Mmm pretty much says it all ;)

Skramit · 29-11-2013, 12:47 PM

Coming up to my 3k inspection. Should I bother with an oil change?

Also I've never dealt with ford before, do they do loan cars generally speaking? Or at the very least a shuttle to a train station? I suppose it depends in the individual dealer right?

LeadFoot81 · 29-11-2013, 12:55 PM

Depends on the dealer, but you'd think the dudes that pick up and drop off customers cars could give you a lift to the train station. Better still they could pick up and drop your car back to your work/house.

trumpy73 · 29-11-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skramit

Coming up to my 3k inspection. Should I bother with an oil change?

Also I've never dealt with ford before, do they do loan cars generally speaking? Or at the very least a shuttle to a train station? I suppose it depends in the individual dealer right?

I wouldn't count on Ford giving you a loan car. That would be an exception if they did.

I had my 3K service 'While you Wait'. Some dealers offer that so you don't have to worry about transportation. It's essentially some tyre kicking and ticks in boxes unless there's something wrong with your car.

As for oil change. If it was my car (I'm OCD) I'd do it but I'll just do it myself at home after the Ford service.

Skramit · 29-11-2013, 09:07 PM

The dealer near me will loan me a car for $44 for the day which ain't too bad if I was desperate. But instead I'm getting it done on a Saturday which will be fine.

I asked about oil change but the Service guy strongly advised against doing an oil change at 3k saying it will run the engine in better if not changed until 15k.

Pursya · 30-11-2013, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skramit

The dealer near me will loan me a car for $44 for the day which ain't too bad if I was desperate. But instead I'm getting it done on a Saturday which will be fine.

I asked about oil change but the Service guy strongly advised against doing an oil change at 3k saying it will run the engine in better if not changed until 15k.

Oh my word, what a load of crap.
Any engine would love new oil every 1,000 kms if you would treat it.
Simply, the newer the oil, the less friction. Less friction, less wear. Less wear better longevity.
Service guy is a dick.

Skramit · 30-11-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursya

Oh my word, what a load of crap.
Any engine would love new oil every 1,000 kms if you would treat it.
Simply, the newer the oil, the less friction. Less friction, less wear. Less wear better longevity.
Service guy is a dick.

Yeah it was interesting I said "how much will you charge to change the oil at 3k?" and all he could tell me was not to do it. Like.... ugh dont u want to take my money?! /shrug

mrmavx · 01-12-2013, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pursya

Oh my word, what a load of crap.
Any engine would love new oil every 1,000 kms if you would treat it.
Simply, the newer the oil, the less friction. Less friction, less wear. Less wear better longevity.
Service guy is a dick.

Well one of my friends is a drivetrain engineer at ford and he strongly advised me to not change the oil at 3000k or if i did to use a pure mineral oil and not the semi synthetic oil that is specified for this car until 15000k and his reasoning is that you do not want the synthetic oil until it is fully run in and that they have actually trialled engines filled with synthetic oil from word go and the rings never bedded in properly due to the lower friction properties of synthetics he did also say that a filter change would be a good idea at 3000k and to top up with mineral oil if possible or a semi synthetic if mineral not available and lastly he said if it was his car once it passed 15000k he would use a full synthetic such as castrol edge for the rest of its days

mrmavx

trumpy73 · 01-12-2013, 02:04 PM

While I have heard that advice (mineral oil) from many sources, it makes me wonder how current those tests are. i.e In this day and age there's really no need for running in an Engine.

Regardless, I'd change the oil at 3K with mineral oil which would be good for the engine under either of the 2 theories.

mrmavx · 01-12-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by trumpy73

While I have heard that advice (mineral oil) from many sources, it makes me wonder how current those tests are. i.e In this day and age there's really no need for running in an Engine.

Regardless, I'd change the oil at 3K with mineral oil which would be good for the engine under either of the 2 theories.

The tests that my engineer mate told me about were on the superchared v8 gt falcon engine so i would suggest that they are pretty recent, anyway i opted for a filter change only and will get a full change to castrol edge at 15000k, i also have the benefit of having a 100k round trip commute which is mainly highway travel so i rack up the kays at a fairly high rate but with a relativly low amount of hours run

mrmavx

Pursya · 01-12-2013, 10:42 PM

I doubt that an Australian based engineer, dealing with 4 more cylinders, on a supercharged, not turbocharged, engine has the slightest clue about the European designed and built turbocharged engine installed in the Fiesta ST.
Worlds apart.
A quick internet search shows that the international community replace the oil at the 3K interval. Makes absolute sense to do this as any machining castes need to be drained from the block.

Skramit · 21-12-2013, 12:07 PM

Just had my inspection. Nothing to report.

Might be a placebo affect but seems like it's suddenly more zippy. Hmmm. Weird.