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After spending more days than i would've liked getting my V8 in and running,
I thought i'd save someone else the heartache by putting up a list of all the parts that were changed on the Fairlane to accommodate the V8. I will break it up in a few sections so we can have a comprehensive list. BRAKES Shorten Vacuum Hose for Brake Booster - My 6 Cylinder Line had gone rock hard and needed replacing IF you are installing a V8 i suggest uprating your brakes with better discs and pads, or even a retrofit of BF Brakes STEERING V8 Intermediate Shaft Power Steering Lines - High and Low Pressure lines route differently Power Steering Cooler - On a 6CYL there is simply a Loop Pipe, on a V8 there is an actual finned cooler Grub screw or Replacement PSP Switch - to Block off and stop leaks from the Speed Sensor hole on the Rack Length of 3/8 Hose - to run return line to the pump (Most Wreckers cut the hose) Small Steel lines from Rack Body to Tower on Steering Rack (Mine got crushed by transmission on 6CYL Removal) ENGINE Water Pump - Easier to Replace while it is out Engine Mount Brackets Driver side Transmission Support bracket Ford Steel Core AU V8 Rocker Cover Gaskets Breather Line from Rocker Cover to Throttle Body PCV Valve and Grommet ELECTRICAL AU V8 Engine Bay Loom - This runs from ECU to the Engine, Transmission, EVAP Cannister Engine Harness - Please Be Aware that the Injector Plugs are to suit EV6 Injectors EVAP Cannister V8 Alternator Plug - You can either splice in your own connector, or use some half size spade plugs Solenoid Plug (Unsure of name, Sits under the inner guard infront of passenger firewall - 6 CYL is different to V8 ECU - This will need to be reprogrammed to the car for Smartlock / Shield - Or if you run a QH - It can be disabled in the Programming Ground Cables will need to be changed - You can pick up Ground straps of different sizing from SuperHeap or any Parts store Starter Battery Wire - This is longer for a 6CYL, i pulled the excess up and changed the lug at the battery end once i shortened it 2x New 02 (HEGO) Sensors FUEL SYSTEM Fuel Pump - V8 Pumps have more flow, I believe these are the same as a VCT but i suggest a Walbro Pump - GSS340 with Installation Kit Fuel Lines - V8 Lines are longer from the firewall forward Vacuum Line - This is usually a package with the Fuel Lines Vac Lines - From Manifold to Regulator TRANSMISSION Transmission Lines i believe are shorter on a V8 due to the box sitting further forward Gear Shifter Linkage - V8 Linkages are Longer from the shifter to the gear plate - Roughly 1.5 - 2" Longer Transmission Cooler - a Must if you install a Convertor EXHAUST V8 Extractors Exhaust System from V8 Car - PLEASE BE AWARE Sedans are different to LWB - LWB are longer between Cats and Diff COOLING & HEATING Aircon Lines - From Accumulator on firewall to Compressor are Different (Lines mounted to guard do not require changing - But inline filter should be Heater Lines - From Steel Lines on Manifold to Heater Tap Heater Tap - This will require a Vac Line - The 6CYL One can be shortened by removing a section and installing the right angle connector to the end Heater Core Lines - From Tap to Heater Core (Can use a BA 6CYL Heater Hose and cut it for two right angle hoses which will work fine V8 Upper and Lower Radiator Hose - Please be aware that the Hose Clamp will need to be bigger for the water pump than for the radiator on the lower hose (Found this out at 10pm at night!) FLUIDS 5L (or more if you have a larger pan) Engine Oil (Refer to Manual or engine builder) 15-20L of 95LE Transmission Fluid (For Autos) 2.5L of Green Coolant Concerntrate Garden Hose Brake Fluid (Always good to check the levels) MISC Cable Ties Bolts - to mount the Power Steering Lines and Transmission Lines to the Crossmember Band Aids Music Food Drink Leash - For the Dog that decides he wants to wedge himself between you and the car while on the creeper Friend on Speed Dial who knows more than you another friend on speed dial who never answers, so you can curse at him via voicemail (Kristo!) Wrecker on Speed Dial Access to the AFF Service Manuals and Wiring Diagrams Never ending Bank Account Hand Cleaner - A Lot of it CLR - To wash your hair after working on transmission
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Thanks for the list nath, after reading that ill just keep letting ford put the V8s in my cars.
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the list does look alittle daunting, but it is not that bad haha
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That is one hell of a list and would put most off doing the conversion!!! WAY easier to do a V8 change in an E series compared to an AU ...... I have done my own below that should help anyone who thinks this is too daunting and would rather start with a cheaper E to get things going ......
BRAKES STEERING ELECTRICAL FUEL SYSTEM TRANSMISSION EXHAUST COOLING & HEATING & MISC Cable Ties
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Great list mate..
I'm sure it will help out quite a few.. I'm glad my voicemail kept you occupied..!! ![]()
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Great list !! I'm doing my conversion in the next few months and this will be a great help.
I've got a few questions the 6 cyl run a 2 pin alturnator and the 8 runs a 3 pin connector which 2 of the 3 pins do you use on the V8 alturnator ?? Also in what way is the EVAP Cannister different to the 6 cyl i thought you could make the 6 cylinder one work for the 8 ?? Cheers Lorenz |
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If you check out the wiring diagrams,
it looks like the cables are reversed. I will get a Photo of my setup (Just using smaller spade connectors)
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I do have a set of Lines here from a V8 Cannister if you require, but it might just be easier to pickup a EVAP cannister from a wrecker as they literally slide in and out with very little effort required.
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There are still little fiddly bits todo but nothing too major!
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Great list Nath. Now you just need to do a complete How To!
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I tried to make it a sticky, but it is not playing the game. Can another Mod have a go please? A pretty handy resource.
Cheers Stu
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I'm in the process at the moment
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My AU series 1 one tonner
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This is very good, can we also have a auto to manual conversion list? For example what do I need to convert my auto AU2 XR8 to manual?
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Main Difference I know of is electronics,
The ECU will need to be flashed to a Manual Tune, Or you can use a Quarterhorse and do it yourself.
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anyone got a rough price idea to convert the au 6 to au 8?
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It all depends on if you can get a Donor car or not.
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guys gday
Ive had a few AUs and fords in general over the years and just picked up a neat AU2 ghia as a weekend toy project thing. ,its got all the gear in/on it(leather,sunroof,tickford kit,low ks etc.....) i wanted except the 4.0ltr VCT engine,and have a V8 AU1 fairmont donor car..... Amusing Ill use all the AU1 engine/gearbox and hardware pointed out in "the list" Electrically Can I use the AU 1 v8 harness and ECU ? or is an AU2/3 XR8 ecu a better option for abit more poke stock for stock...before I tune it anyway... Before it goes in Ill fit a better performing cam,extractors,exhaust,inlet manifold and either flow these stock Au1 heads or look at a better off the shelf head type....????? Does the car require engineering in NSW for the conversion? or just a blue slip and rerego it...? Ill post some pics up tommorrow when i pick her up.....thanks guys
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just done the conversion on au2 ute and the drive shaft is shorter can you use a 40 mil spacer on the drive shaft
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@V8Falcons You will need to use the AU1 ECU as the Injectors are different on the S1 motors to S2/3.
Another thing to watch out for is the fusebox harness... Mine was missing the power pin for the passenger side Oxygen Sensor! @Lost the plot - Not sure on the spacer.. Maybe try a wrecker for another tailshaft?
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Hi, First up, great thread! Exactly what I was looking at doing! Just wondering though, how do I go with the legalities for this? Will I need engineering certificates? Or just a bolt in job, and updating engine numbers on licencing papers?
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hey John,
Here in sydney, All the car needed was a Blueslip. They checked I had used all the factory parts, had uprated brakes and steering. Identity check on the motor and that was all. If it is done with parts from that Car with a factory V8 Option, there isn't any major hurdles. Nathan
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Nathan, thank you so much for making up this list. It has been my bible while preparing to do my V8 conversion.
I'd like to ask a few things about it please. Sorry if some of the questions seem silly but I am learning everything as I go. STEERING Grub screw or Replacement PSP Switch - to Block off and stop leaks from the Speed Sensor hole on the Rack ^ Is this sensor no longer used when converting to a V8, or is there another sensor? ENGINE Engine Mount Brackets Driver side Transmission Support bracket ^ Were the engine mounting brackets and trans support bracket changes technically the only things required when an engine is all fine? ELECTRICAL Solenoid Plug (Unsure of name, Sits under the inner guard infront of passenger firewall - 6 CYL is different to V8 ^ Did you ever find the name of this? ECU - This will need to be reprogrammed to the car for Smartlock / Shield - Or if you run a QH - It can be disabled in the Programming ^ Will the car start and be drivable until flashed, just no security? Ground Cables will need to be changed - You can pick up Ground straps of different sizing from SuperHeap or any Parts store ^ Is this a cable from engine to battery ground? (I forgot to look tonight before asking.) FUEL SYSTEM Fuel Lines - V8 Lines are longer from the firewall forward ^ Can they be extended using longer fuel hose instead? Vacuum Line - This is usually a package with the Fuel Lines ^ Can you please explain a little more about this? Is this to the Evap? Vac Lines - From Manifold to Regulator ^ Would you please be able to show a photo of this? (I can't be sure which it is.) TRANSMISSION Gear Shifter Linkage - V8 Linkages are Longer from the shifter to the gear plate - Roughly 1.5 - 2" Longer ^ How is this accessed? Does it come out the top after the trans is dropped out? What if removing both engine + trans together? Was there anything else you think would be important? I saw your note about the oxygen sensor pin, is it just literally adding a pin into the fuse box harness to enable it, or more involved? Are the two oxygen sensors part of the V8 engine harness? I am guessing also: Cruise and throttle cables different lengths? V8 dash (for rpm)? V8 driveshaft Thank you!
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Have just done a I6 to V8 swap..XR8 engine and trans into a 98 fairmont Ghia sedan everthing bolted up no real head scratching moments..i have the ecu and loom from the Xr8 and fuse loom now im no genius but i asume that should all plug up with little modifications..if any members have advice on engine mods im all ears and my advice to anyone is try to keep spare drip trays for trans fluid it goes everywhere and soaks into clothes like a sponge...
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My best advice is to do some reading in this very area, or moreso the Workshop builds one level down. Mods can be personal, so it really comes down to what you want to do, what your skill levels are and do you want to do it yourself. There are plenty of threads that have shown varying levels of mods, some done at home and some paid for. Research is king. Sorry if you where looking for an easy answer. Cheers Stu
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Hi. Just wandering if you got this finished.
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