Defected!

XCwillo · 17-03-2012, 09:25 AM

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

jrfttf · 17-03-2012, 09:32 AM

seems to be no matter what you have these days your not safe, i personally don't know anyone who has been pinched for it but have heard around the traps they are more than happy to pinch you for stuff like that.

Out of curiosity was the air cleaner sticking through the bonnet?

**cs123** · 17-03-2012, 09:43 AM

Very common to be defected in the 80s for pollution related mods. You car should have EGR so I am surprised they didn't get you for that.

PCV is suppose to be connected to manifold, perhaps you are thinking of your breather. That is suppose to connect to the air cleaner.

**EASYBOSS** · 17-03-2012, 09:52 AM

Just had a quick flick through your build thread, nice plate.

As for being defected, not much to say about that apart from you look like a police target

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 09:55 AM

occupational hazard.. rectify faults.. clear defects.. win...

XCwillo · 17-03-2012, 10:10 AM

Air cleaner doesnt stick through the bonnet no :p
And CS123 the PCV valve is running normal but the crank case ventilation return line, instead of running into the air filter like it does with the stock cleaner, runs back into the manifold (does the same thing essentially) because the after market chrome air cleaner doesn't have a snout for it.

Will be spending today getting it back to immaculate condition, told the cop i'd have it back on the road by Monday and he gave me a smartass "yeah like to see you do that pal"
I'll show him! *shakes fist*

**cs123** · 17-03-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Will be spending today getting it back to immaculate condition, told the cop i'd have it back on the road by Monday and he gave me a smartass "yeah like to see you do that pal"
I'll show him! *shakes fist*

He may be right. I'd be worried what happens when you take it to where ever to get the defect cleared that they do not find other problems. You should have EGR, charcoal canister and oil breather/PCV connected. I am not sure how well it would run with that breather hose connected to the manifold vacuum either.

If you have a holley try and grab a factory air cleaner of a 4 barrel V8 and use it. Then it should have connections for the charcoal canister and breather. You can probably also grab some plastic elbows from a auto store and modify your chrome air cleaner.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 10:23 AM

just like getting a smack off your mum really..

stings a bit at first.. then you get over it....

good motorvation to get those horns, reverse lights, washer bottles and heaters working.....

Jim Goose · 17-03-2012, 10:24 AM

Shorter exhaust??

Where does it exit?

And how do they know how far past the bumper bar it exited when new?

Many years ago I got done (QLD) for having my exhaust pipes TOO long.
They were about an inch past the bumper bar.
The rules say you cant have any protrusions past the bumper which means ALL cars fitted with towbars are illegal. Anyhoo I didnt argue with him (Transport officer) and i cut an inch off the tail pipes and went into the Queensland Transport office to show them.. The lady at the counter looked at me weird and then appollogiesed!!! as she realised how stupid the defect was (it was just the officer flexing his authority).

Some aircleaners do come with a seperate plastic hose attach bit, which needs to be pop riveted to the aircleaner. But yea it doesnt matter where it goes as long as it goes back into the combustion chamber surely..??

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cs123

He may be right. I'd be worried what happens when you take it to where ever to get the defect cleared that they do not find other problems. You should have EGR, charcoal canister and oil breather/PCV connected. I am not sure how well it would run with that breather hose connected to the manifold vacuum either.

If you have a holley try and grab a factory air cleaner of a 4 barrel V8 and use it. Then it should have connections for the charcoal canister and breather. You can probably also grab some plastic elbows from a auto store and modify your chrome air cleaner.

would be doing this.. the more standard you can make it present.. the less they may look for..

302 XC · 17-03-2012, 10:46 AM

Exhaust can exit out the side of a ute, thats legal, yep on utes it doesnt need to exit at the rear, check QLD DOT website the info is there

VioletGT · 17-03-2012, 10:53 AM

Fix it, get it back on the road and then wait until the next time. Cat and mouse. Tom and Jerry.

csv8 · 17-03-2012, 11:48 AM

And the rozzers wonder why we have no respect for them....

mik · 17-03-2012, 11:51 AM

nice uterus, that`s bad luck mate, maybe you could run the ventilation hose to the bottom of the air filter/ wack a chrome tip on the exhaust to bring it out a bit further?, don`t worry mate if you`ve only been defected once your doing well

falconnut · 17-03-2012, 12:04 PM

Funny how alot of coppas think they are mechanics, they are not.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

And the rozzers wonder why we have no respect for them....

i still do.. 99% of the po po you get no trouble.. treat them with respect.. dont make their job hard and you will be surprised what you can get away with.....

dont forget.. there may be that time in your life.. it will be them that you call..

csv8 · 17-03-2012, 01:17 PM

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

soooooo...

just because you work in a hospital...

have just finished work...

are exempt from RBTs...

you may be half cut.. for all they know.....

atec77 · 17-03-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

Sounds like he had nfi at all , simply run the vent back into the cleaner or replace it which I expect you have done , being a ute you can drop the exhaust against the rear wheel because it's venting the minimum distance from the last opening window , you need a copy of the rules to prove this , it cannot dump under the car so you may need to add a bend , dump behind the wheel will be better if you can , I got pulled the other day in the beemer and all they did was oh and ah , it's all legal inspite of pushing the limits (runs 18 x 9" wheels and large rubber )
and I am older

(first thing he said was " I thought you might have run " to which I made a smart comeback , good luck with it

mytgxl · 17-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

You may have been sucking on the alcohol swabs lol

**GasoLane** · 17-03-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

$10 says it was a Highway plod from Albury/Wodonga!

**Burnout** · 17-03-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

$10 says it was a Highway plod from Albury/Wodonga!

Friend o' yours is he....

**GasoLane** · 17-03-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

Friend o' yours is he....

Yeah right

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 03:15 PM

ive been through defect stations and policemans have said..

whats that..

not sure ive just bought the car..

cool on your way.....

was only the NOS solenoids..........

xisled · 17-03-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

If it was a Victorian cop just make sure he has not ticked the box which says roadworthy needed.

my67xr · 17-03-2012, 03:52 PM

i had my XR defected years ago because the officer thought my back wheels looked too wide.
i was running 265/50/14's on 8" 12 slots on the rear.
after checking with a tape measure he worked out my rear track was 2mm wider than standard.
i put some 7" wide 12 slotters on the back with 225's
took it to regency inspection and was told the rear track was now 35mm wider than stock, but he let them pass anyway....?
checked everything else out while i was there and it all passed,
but he noticed i had a 'glass' mirror in my passengers sunvisor.
they are standard in the XR Fairmonts,
but he wouldnt clear the defect till i removed it!

i was pulled over another time by a m/c cop,
he questioned my 'skinny" front tyres, 165's on 3.5 autodrag rims
he let me off as i explained to him they were not the skinny 135's or 145's.

i had a mate pulled over one day on the way out to the drags,
he had just fitted my NOS super powershot kit to his car.
officers lifted the bonnet, and grilled him over the Holley fuel pressure regulator? which was mounted on the shocker tower.
but they didn't notice the NOS stickers on the solenoids hanging from under the airfilter. (btw, the bottle wasnt fitted at the time)

and another mate was pulled over in an old HR ute
he was told by the 2x junior officers that his remote brake booster was a Turbocharger, lol

xisled · 17-03-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by falconnut

Funny how alot of coppas think they are mechanics, they are not.

End of the day, the cops are not mechanics and the reason you are defected is that they suspect your car to be not roadworthy. You then take it to a qualified mechanic to get the car checked over.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 04:16 PM

theres a few basic rules you stick to.. especially when it comes to ADRs...

older the car the better.. stick to the basics.. play it right.. you can end with a nutter street car....

ive got an old bomb that can pull the wheels off the deck.. all totally legal....

XC_Lizzard · 17-03-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by my67xr

i was running 265/50/14's on 8" 12 slots on the rear.
after checking with a tape measure he worked out my rear track was 2mm wider than standard.

How do you determine a 2mm difference in track with a tape measure by the side of the road? Parrallax error reading the tape is bound to give a measurement error range of greater than 2mm.

Also, not sure what the rules used to be, but currently (in Victoria) inceasing the track up to 50mm on the rear is allowed.

Auslandau · 17-03-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

theres a few basic rules you stick to.. especially when it comes to ADRs...

older the car the better.. stick to the basics.. play it right.. you can end with a nutter street car....

ive got an old bomb that can pull the wheels off the deck.. all totally legal....

And the older the driver also makes it all a bit easier ..... I think I get more WTF's and a bit of a chuckle by Mr plod sitting at the lights than anything else. Dont do anything stupid and stay clear from large gatherings that will cause attention to you is a start. Not the be all and end all though but mine isn't exactly 'legal' ... noise and wheels (295 rear is close to 50mm over std???) .... oh ..... and the odd time the NOS has been accidently been left connected ... no biggy

Knox the other night though was over top and shouldn't be hit like that with the police and EPA .....