Gen F HSV GTS Review, 0-100 in 4.4s

[jpd80]

It's easy to dwell on the features and gaps of high series cars but in the big picture,
sales of GTS is going to be a rather low percentage of the overall HSV sales, the main
goal for HSV is getting buyers back into entry and mid level Clubsport models,
which is their bread and butter..

I wonder about that and whether Holden's new pricing structure has dragged more would be
HSV buyers into SS-V and in particular the Redline version which is seriously good value
but in saying that, the HSV name carries a lot of prestige with their grass roots supporters...

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by jpd80

It's easy to dwell on the features and gaps of high series cars but in the big picture,
sales of GTS is going to be a rather low percentage of the overall HSV sales, the main
goal for HSV is getting buyers back into entry and mid level Clubsport models,
which is their bread and butter..

I wonder about that and whether Holden's new pricing structure has dragged more would be
HSV buyers into SS-V and in particular the Redline version which is seriously good value
but in saying that, the HSV name carries a lot of prestige with their grass roots supporters...

As we all know now, Holden's redline SSV has hit the price / equipment / perceived performance jackpot with buyers.
If Iw as a betting man i'd have a large wager that this car will seriously cannibalise Clubsports sales, especially considering the Redline has quite a bit of spec that's stripped out of the considerably more expensive Clubsport.

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Because HSV were claiming a while ago it was going to run low 4's. They build the expectations, not us.

Exactly...and nobody should be surprised when it doesn't meet HSV's claimed performance times.

Originally Posted by Rob 18

Look, there is no doubt with all the kit the GTS, it is probably technically the better car, albeit the most ugly pimped Holden Epica we've ever seen. Massive brakes, coolers, SC 6.2 engine, it has it all without mentioning it's interior kit, BUT they charge a bloody fortune for that kit.and... At the end of the day & with all the hype, SO FAR, it's not the quickest Australian built car! Now I know in 2013 apparently that doesn't matter anymore but can someone remember why the Ph 3 was & still is held in so high reguard.
While I'm not one of the fortunate ones to own a GT rspec, if I did I would be feeling pretty proud right now.......

Fixed that for ya. Be proud of what you have mate, SC GT-P with its special sports seats and 6/4 Brembo's is a superb bit of kit and arguably the best all-round FPV ever made . R Spec is a great bit of kit but for normal roads and average use I think the standard FPV suspension kit is a fine ride / handling set-up. Fit some really good rubber like I'm about too and enjoy

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Rodge

As we all know now, Holden's redline SSV has hit the price / equipment / perceived performance jackpot with buyers.
If I was a betting man i'd have a large wager that this car will seriously cannibalise Clubsports sales, especially considering the Redline has quite a bit of spec that's stripped out of the considerably more expensive Clubsport.

Or on the positive side, it draws out buyers wo whould normally consider HSV out of their price range,
could this open up an opportunity for Ford to supply an XR8 with an optional "Track Pack" that
consists of say, existing GT brakes suspension and handling set up, which then enabling a new GT
to have say, GTP interior, Brembos all round std Gt suspension or R-Spec suspension as option?

I think there's great opportunity for Ford to pick and choose which areas it wants to be in
without matching every single Holden or HSV variant......scales of economy and bang for bucks?

Exactly...and nobody should be surprised when it doesn't meet HSV's claimed performance times.

It's a top end car that deserves praise whilst recognising the premium price will make it exclusive (limit sales)
Should HSV be focusing more on Clubsport being the bargain of a century than focusing on a showcase vehicle?
Or is this about getting in with a last hurrah.......We'll see..

Fixed that for ya. Be proud of what you have mate, SC GT-P with its special sports seats and 6/4 Brembo's is a superb bit of kit and arguably the best all-round FPV ever made . R Spec is a great bit of kit but for normal roads and average use I think the standard FPV suspension kit is a fine ride / handling set-up. Fit some really good rubber like I'm about too and enjoy

It would be almost crazy for Ford not to capitalize of all of that precious FPV development work,
a great opportunity exists to rationalise the delivery of specific basic vehicles that match actual
buyer needs and expectations, I just hope Ford doesn't over think this in terms of return on investment.