Extra tax on tobacco what next?

[robbyg]

As we have all probably heard in the last couple of days there will be an extra tax on tobacco, i wonder what will be hit next to fund the governments spending spree, i think maybe alcohol, fast food outlets, macas and kfc to stop the obeisity issue which experts say is more a killer of aussies than tobacco, i am a smoker and like a beer, dont mind the odd macas or kfc feed, it is convient in our busy life style, but i think i will cut down, because the real motive behind this i think is revenue raising and i pay a ******** load of tax already!!
Like to hear some other views on this.

[Work Horse]

At the same time smokers are being slugged a couple of extra dollars in tax, Victorian police are being issued with semi-automatic weapons.

Coincidence or are the government expecting some trouble from smokers?

[vztrt]

Alcohol (gotta protect the kids!!), ETS will eventually get through, wouldn't be surprised if fuel gets a few extra cents. I've also heard mining companies are being looked at to get an extra tax on them.

[FGII-XR6]

as long as the money all goes to health as promised I'm all for it after all smokers are responsible for a higher percentage of the health bill that the general population

[burnz]

Originally Posted by robbyg

As we have all probably heard in the last couple of days there will be an extra tax on tobacco, i wonder what will be hit next to fund the governments spending spree, i think maybe alcohol, fast food outlets, macas and kfc to stop the obeisity issue which experts say is more a killer of aussies than tobacco, i am a smoker and like a beer, dont mind the odd macas or kfc feed, it is convient in our busy life style, but i think i will cut down, because the real motive behind this i think is revenue raising and i pay a ******** load of tax already!!
Like to hear some other views on this.

yep alcohol will be next they normally go together.

Originally Posted by workhorse

At the same time smokers are being slugged a couple of extra dollars in tax, Victorian police are being issued with semi-automatic weapons.
Coincidence or are the government expecting some trouble from smokers?

i wouldent put it past the gun happy copper state

Originally Posted by vztrt

Alcohol (gotta protect the kids!!), ETS will eventually get through, wouldn't be surprised if fuel gets a few extra cents. I've also heard mining companies are being looked at to get an extra tax on them.

what a perfect time for ealier tax on LPG.
and yes the miners are being look at IE the man in the ground.

[xtremerus]

Excise [Tax ] on tobacco, Alcohol and Petrol, ALREADY increases EVER 6 months due to the excise being increased inline with the CPI.
Petrol was taken out of this scheme/scam some years ago, and frozen at the present 38 odd cent/ L , when the cost of oil sky-rocketed.
This scheme/scam was introduced YEARS [ 20? ] ago, so that any Govt. of the day did not have to announce the tax increases at budget time. and P off the voters.

[Sorted]

I don't smoke but what's with the Government???

First I heard of this tax was today and it comes into effect at midnight? What the?

Next they will advise increased tax on something that does effect me and it will just happen overnight without any public discussion......

Yeah yeah I know they discuss it in parliment but don't we get told of it when it'd been discussed, not after it passed.

Next they will increase gst from 10% to 11% and that will just happen overnight as well

[samftr]

Well, Rego in QLD is something astronomical at present. I said ages ago when we got our 900 dollar "TAX BONUS" last year that we will be paying it back more then 10 fold. look at how much power costs now... 480 for 6 months registration on a 6 cylinder.

[Walt Kowalski]

Simple

After it gets re elected (I bet it will) this Rudd Government will continue to spend spend spend.

I mean waste waste waste.

And then it will raise taxes to pay for that waste.

If you do not think it is a pattern with Labor Governments you need to study some history

[svo supporter]

Instead of taxing tobacco to fund stuff, cut the pollies wages and rorts they've got.

Chances of that happening. Nun and bucklies

As for smokers being a burdon on the health system. Doubt it. We pay enough in tobacco taxes ovwer the years to cover out medical expenses in our later lives. So what's the problem there? People don't smoke, or give it up, where's the gov't going to get the money from for the health system? Introduce a healthy diet tax?

[robbyg]

[QUOTE=samftr]Well, Rego in QLD is something astronomical at present. I said ages ago when we got our 900 dollar "TAX BONUS" last year that we will be paying it back more then 10 fold. look at how much power costs now... 480 for 6 months registration on a 6 cylinder.[/QUOTE

Mate i put my two cents worth in another thread on that topic somewhere in this forum, to be hounest i re registered me old ford with that 900 dollars and loved it but as you say we will pay 10 fold if not more, hate to sound so negative, politicians super and pensions are always in the background the priority.

[samftr]

Oh I remember they "froze" their pay rises this year or was that last fiscal year? I thought ah how nice of them.. then they stuff up the poor buggers in qld healths pay's for a few months..

[samftr]

they dont say how one doctor got paid over 1million and a nurse over 90 grand tho. (shh)

[Walt Kowalski]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225859616207

Have your vote but do it before midnight

[samftr]

TAXPAYERS will fork out $90 million a year to keep more than 400 public servants employed within the federal Climate Change Department - despite most now having nothing to do until 2013

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Sorted

I don't smoke but what's with the Government???

First I heard of this tax was today and it comes into effect at midnight? What the?

Next they will advise increased tax on something that does effect me and it will just happen overnight without any public discussion......

Yeah yeah I know they discuss it in parliment but don't we get told of it when it'd been discussed, not after it passed.

Next they will increase gst from 10% to 11% and that will just happen overnight as well

Actually 12% is the number being thrown around.

This tax is funny. Was at the supermarket before and saw people walking out with plastic bags full of smokes. One guy bought $650 dollers worth of ciggies. The tax is already doing its job.

[samftr]

Far out. Its such a hard bastard of a thing to give up too apparently.

[Dodge]

too many cooks in the kitchen, last trip to canberra i saw 40 or more statesman and LTDs sitting outside palament house, all running so the drivers and cars were cool, i asked on guy how long do they wait .he said 5 or 6 hours today... i said thank god my tax$ is paying for all of this ,but i didnt agree to kill the ozone layer in the process....no comment from the driver

[FGII-XR6]

climate change
rego costs
what pollies doctors and nurses get paid
even the GST
talk about off topic if you don't stay on topic this thread will be closed do you want to discuss this inteligently or what???

[GT0132]

Probably the only thing Rudd has done that I don't disagree with seeing as though I'm a 16 month non smoker.

[zdcol71]

Hey ,watch this,... back on topic..."Extra tax on tobacco, what next"??
(imo,o) Whooohoo!!,who cares what's next. if it stops or keeps 1 person from smoking, bring it on. If smoking is legally and socially outlawed I for one would be happy to see the introduction of 1000 more covert, revenue raising speed cameras to make up the short fall in government coffers.
My response has nothing to do with the hipocrisy of selling a legal addictive drug and raking in billions in taxes on it, rather,lessening the burden on an underfunded and inadequate health system that is bogged down treating and caring for cigarette smokers.

[robbyg]

Originally Posted by samftr

Far out. Its such a hard bastard of a thing to give up too apparently.

Sam it really is, they say its more addictive than herroine and drugs like that, patches on tomorrow mourning, try again

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

Hey ,watch this,... back on topic..."Extra tax on tobacco, what next"??
(imo,o) Whooohoo!!,who cares what's next. if it stops or keeps 1 person from smoking, bring it on. If smoking is legally and socially outlawed I for one would be happy to see the introduction of 1000 more covert, revenue raising speed cameras to make up the short fall in government coffers.
My response has nothing to do with the hipocrisy of selling a legal addictive drug and raking in billions in taxes on it, rather,lessening the burden on an underfunded and inadequate health system that is bogged down treating and caring for cigarette smokers.

Bet you cant wait till booze is banned then.

[Franco Cozzo]

Ban Cigarettes and Alcohol, might be a good business for me to get into, who is up for going into a boot legging business with me?

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Bet you cant wait till booze is banned then.

Nope!! Love a beer
(PS, please refrence my preface...imo,o)!!

[robbyg]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

Hey ,watch this,... back on topic..."Extra tax on tobacco, what next"??
(imo,o) Whooohoo!!,who cares what's next. if it stops or keeps 1 person from smoking, bring it on. If smoking is legally and socially outlawed I for one would be happy to see the introduction of 1000 more covert, revenue raising speed cameras to make up the short fall in government coffers.
My response has nothing to do with the hipocrisy of selling a legal addictive drug and raking in billions in taxes on it, rather,lessening the burden on an underfunded and inadequate health system that is bogged down treating and caring for cigarette smokers.

Not real sure if under funded, i think its the second largest funded area, the first being social welfare?

[BIGJB]

Ha did the same thing in NZ. Announced the hike and did it that night.
Scum bags.

[snappy]

Originally Posted by GT0132

Probably the only thing Rudd has done that I don't disagree with seeing as though I'm a 16 month non smoker.

They question is why is he doing this .
I wonder if it got anything to do with the henry review all what ever its called sitting on his desk since december. I will bet money there will be a backflip on the plain packaging because the smoke squad have called there lawyers and if we lose we will have to compensate the cigerette companys million or billion dollars cant remember exactly.

Thing is smokers are a easy target and the goverment dont mind milking us at all.

[Iggypoppin']

Rejoice! I'm kicking the fags next week, may 8th, my 21st. Don't want to smoke any more, and can't afford it anyway. And health problems. At least this tax is one I have a choice to pay or not.

[snappy]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

Hey ,watch this,... back on topic..."Extra tax on tobacco, what next"??
(imo,o) Whooohoo!!,who cares what's next. if it stops or keeps 1 person from smoking, bring it on. If smoking is legally and socially outlawed I for one would be happy to see the introduction of 1000 more covert, revenue raising speed cameras to make up the short fall in government coffers.
My response has nothing to do with the hipocrisy of selling a legal addictive drug and raking in billions in taxes on it, rather,lessening the burden on an underfunded and inadequate health system that is bogged down treating and caring for cigarette smokers.

Say that when a beer cost you $20 and a cheesburger costs you $30 because i can tell you now they are 2 items that cost tax payers just as much.