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What a gutless POS that V6 is 3.6 litre form.Will a VE get out of its own way with a 3 litre version?I suspect you'd have to row it pretty hard to keep up with the flow-bye bye fuel economy.
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At least you know he has a real plan for the Falcon and considering all the options. Can only hope the RWD format remains & they can find a way to shift more I6's to keep it viable past 2014/15.
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Where's (JEM)???????????
What's in the pipeline man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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BF XR6, oh yeah!!
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God he's good, really reminds me of good old Geoff.
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This guy is really cool. Sounds like you've got a keeper. I hope he stays in that position for quite a while.
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Not afraid of a fight either, apparently.....
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Don't go looking either. Ford found and silenced him a wile back.
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Getting it done.....
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Either way great to hear these comments from Burela. Holden, who in recent days it has been revealed are just as bankrupt as we all expected, are trying to play the bullish PR game. All show, no go. Put on a big show to convince everyone they are 'economical', 'advanced', 'viable' etc. etc. All well and good but facts are the new DI 3.6 is really no better than 4.0 I6 ford has now (or probaly much better than an aurion, maxima or any other large car) regarding fuel efficency or grunt. And the 3.0, based on US reports and its frankly inadequate torque value is not really a large car engine at all. A medium car at best. The I4t from ford will murder this thing, pure and simple. Holden at best can get some more private traffice in the short term but given the '4 cylinder only' mantra from fleets will have to work hard to secure more large orders. All while Cruze bleads them dry RE product development with very little profit per car (as admitted by reuss). Try reading the transcript of mark reuss' statements, the guy bumbles and mumbles alot of half truths and pr-tested soundbites. Very little makes much sense and if often hardly coherent. Burela tells it as it is, for good or bad. Holden best make some hay while the sun shines, because all too soon, as usual, Ford and others will show how ludicrous this 'out engineer' statement truly is. Those of us who have followed the aussie car business for long enough know how silly that sort of statement is, particularly from holden.
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Fair Dinkum lucky they didnt take some sort of legal action |
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What do they have planned that we dont know about I ask??
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I wouldn't be too confident about that. There are ocassional snippets of info that come out that convince me that it is only a temporary production model that doesn't fit in with Ford's global product lineup. |
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Another worthless PR stunt by Holden to cover the fact that they are going downhill, product- and finance-wise. Ford are on too much of a good thing with their new I4 engine which Holden are clearly dismissing as gutless. Unless they come up with a way to counter Ford's future engine(s), I believe Holden will be trimming it's product lineup in order to cut down on costs to compete properly.
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Holden may want to start with it's electrics on it's VE if it wants to out engineer anyone.
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holden probably think they out engineered ford by glueing the firewall in place on ve.Can't wait to see what sort of glue they are going to use to out engineer fords engine torque.lol
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"Out engineer" funny as. Christ was there anything in the VE thats was a new and different from older cars? Its all well and good saying they will out engineer the competion but where is there proof. Of course making the capacity of a motor will improve fuel economy, but with all the claim how good they are I ould have like to see an engine that had the lowest fuel usage but with some decent power and touque figures. Do they seriously think this car will move on the road let alone off the show room floors.
At least Ford are looking at in as an entire package (smaller motor but with good torque and power) the current 4.0L as it has been stated uses more fuel but when you look at the size of the engine, power and torque ratings why would somene logically limit what the car is going to be capable of doing by buy a gutless motor that I believe in reality inst really going to provide any actual real savings in the long run. Why dont Holden just concentrate on making there billion dollar baby actually work correctly and make it a joy to drive before tyring different motors. I would start with brakes, tranmission and interior. Clearly transmisson help as proved by Ford so why dont they do that. It seems like Holden are more interested in pumping money in to there marketing department to come up with as much BS as possible to try get uninformed people to by there inferiour product |
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I thought they'd been gluing the firewall in there since the VR days??
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Even the insiders keep proving you wrong, yet you still believe your sources. Falcon will remain RWD through E8, and most likely become the base of any Global Rear Wheel Drive platform into the Future. If only the nay sayers knew what both Kuzak and Mullally had to say about Falcon when they drove it locally last year.
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dumb question Paxton, what is "E8"?
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I can’t remember any other manufacturer speculating on its model range the way Ford do with Falcon. Surely continuity would help sales long term as opposed to uncertainty or talk of possible discontinuation.
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This is typical of Ford to keep quiet Boss315 which is good and bad........
As for the "best car in the world" quote well thats big but I suppose comparing apples with apples the FG is miles ahead from any POS US equivelant thats for sure...... Look forward to the engineering stoush !
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After spending some time in a VE Calais and a G6E only a fool would pick the Calais. |
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