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Silhouette F6
Join Date: Aug 2005
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This may seem like a strange question..... But what is the definition of rice? Is it limited to non factory addons to a vehicle which have no effect on power or vehicle dynamics? Or can it also be directed at factory cars with body kits and wings that have no effect on performance or dynamics?
Thoughts, comments?
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Turbo Dinosaur FTMFW
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I think its something along the lines of...
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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the latter... things which scream performance depspite there being none.
your classic example is a pov pack mitsi lancer with an evo kit, complete with gap[ing big hole for air to hit the intercooler but no intercooler. or worse yet an interfooler - yes, an intercooler bolted up but not piped to the engine. deros... |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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What he ^^^ said.
Lots of people will say that the definition of 'rice' is any Japanese car but they are morons generally. |
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Those exhausts that look like they have a bucket on the end. Anything with bloody white lancer like lights.
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Join Date: May 2005
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Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement
In my opinion it is any modification that tries to make it look like a race car or has more power than what it really has without adding any performance improvement.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NSW
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Can Falcadores count as rice?? Because I have seen a VK with massive hornet scoop running to a tired old 202ci running on gas. I also have a mate with a stock VT Executive that he has built as a "clubsport replica" whatever the hell that is ![]() |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Tacky tasteless non factory cosmetic add-ons.... like rediculously large wheels, exhausts, flares, spoilers, scoops, rainbow interiors, neons etc..
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Rice is any option or car modification that YOU do not like.
Example: Get a lancer, warm the motor slightly (less than 10% power increase), put on a big wing, stripes, a bulge on the bonnet with stickers over it, big shiny mags and extra exhaust and this is rice, do the same thing to a XR8 falcon and it is a GT. It all comes down to your point of view......... |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2006
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true the "anti rice" brigade are often the biggest wan kers a mod is not to their liking so they carry on and insult the owner. moding a cay is an individual thing and if you don't like a car bad luck you don't have to have one the same in your drive way. I agree there are things that look plain stupid but to each their own. my i prefer appearence mods that look like they could have come from the factory but didn't even down to extra switches . for my fog lights I found a switch from the police pack that i was able to put into the heater surround where a column auto would have the power economy switch. it isn't factory but looks like it could be . some like big wings and such and wheels , not for me but if thats what they like thats fine.
the insulting of people of people based on their taste is not on Quote:
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That it the point I am trying to make....... If it makes you feel less offended then, take a XR6T put on a wing, big wheels and warm the motor slightly and you have a F6. |
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so rice = intollerence and stupidity on the part of the one throwing the insults???? really some of the " rice " carry on i see here is mindless crap.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
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two things:
1) you cant polish a t urd. a base model kia will never be a fast sporty car so making it look like one is rice 2) you cant buy taste. just because the car or mods are expensive doesnt mean its not rice. if it looks tacky its rice |
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Danger Ranger
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Qld
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Rice (or more correctly "rice burner" is a derogatory term that originated in the motorcycling community to describe any brand of Japanese bike, probably somewhere in the 1970s. At the time it was considered US and European makes were the only thing to be seen on and piano manufacturers like Yamaha were openly laughed at for their efforts.
These days it has been applied to cars mainly and is used to describe any modification which is done purely for cosmetic reasons and does not help (or even hinders) performance. Having said that RICE like any deliberately negative term is purely in the eye of the beholder, very subjective and usually just a troll on forums to get a reaction because someone doesn't like or agree with the modification. An important note: Factory rice is STILL rice and is all too prevalent these days. The number of manufacturers who feel the need to put big wheels, body kits and bling on totally stock models is nothing short of a joke. "Zoom zoom zoom" - yeah whatever it's still a 4 cylinder dunger with some plastic hanging off it, despite you telling all and sundry it's a race car. When was the last time a manufacturer of a 4 cylinder vehicle offered 2 or 3 engine spec/power options? Much easier to throw some tacky fibreglass, 2" bigger wheels and a big chrome tip as the "sports" model. You'll sell plenty... You can't expect the impressionable young kiddies of today to not get suckered into spending money on fibreglass tack ons, cheap chrome bling wheels and farty exhausts when they are so readily available and often seen on standard models from the factory. Cheers LT. |
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I mean a XR8 is already a fairly fast car while the base model Lancer isn't. I mean if the XR8 was a front-wheel drive V6 you would have a point but it's a V8. A modified base model Lancer is lucky to get within a lions roar of a stocko Falcon and Commodore. I largely attribute "ricers" to modified Japanese/Korean economy cars ie. a Mitsubishi Evolution EVO is NOT a while a Mitsubishi Lancer GLi IS. The difference IMO opinion between the Ricers and Falcadores is that the base model Falcon already shares the drivetrain layout with the performance models and in stock form they are relatively quick and respond well to modifications. A N/A Mitsubishi Lancer however doesn't share the basic layout with the EVO and in stock form they are lucky to break 10 seconds to 100 kays and modified won't worry a stocko VN. I don't believe it is harmless these ricers either. Because of them nobody takes young modifiers seriously anymore (I have been quoted upwards of 2 grand for an exhaust) and they have attracted a lot of police attention to p platers with their outrageous modifications and perceived driving ability. |
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Big wings often hamper rear vision. Front spoilers change the crumpling characteristics of the car in an accident. Extra dark tint restricts vision. Huge chrome wheels (asides from looking terrible) have large moments of inertia, putting excessive loads on the wheel studs which can be devastating. I can keep going. There really is a fine line between intolerance and differing opinions. |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northside Brisbane
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Rice actually refers to Japanese cars or bikes - This "Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement" joy word is just a term used now by anyone likely to have a slower car than what they are calling rice
ie - Any car with a cannon - It may run 12's but its gotta be rice |
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Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements.
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CC of muffler is bigger than CC of engine
race tach with shift light body kit with neons |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Could you infact analyse it down to $/kW spent on the car? And then give a "safe" range from being critised as a ricer...
What I can't understand is if someone was serious about spending thousands on mods, why use a base model lancer? Or a Kia? I've got an XR6 for christ sake and I'm not going to bother modding it further until I get a Turbo. Common sense?
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Silhouette F6
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So is any 'race' enhancement to any vehicle, factory or otherwise, that does not add performance or dynamics to a car rice?
Is the fake exhaust on an XR6 rice? Is the wing and body kit on an SV6 rice? Is a set of big rims on a Magna rice?
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I was going to get a Mazda 6 if not a Falcon. Glad I sobered up before chosing :P
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For me personally, if it looks like it belongs in the Fast and the furious, its RICE. Also stock automatics that have a factory fitted tacho, but then have a 5" monster tacho amongst other gauges scattered throughout the interior.
Complete waste of time mods. I believe it comes down to a Japenese car culture inspired theme of mods. While some of the cars are modded with extremely high horsepower mods, I'd believe alot are just for looks, hence the term RICE. |
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In my opinion, if the visual mods look good and suit the car, it isn't rice. But when the cars are fitted with over-the-top bodykits, massive spoilers, stickers all over the front guards, neons, pug-fugly cannon exhausts, and altezzas, that is rice.
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i dont know why there is so much discussion about this, it is so simple.
i was watching a high octane dvd my brother bought today. quarter mile race, a late 90s honda civic coupe. bright orange, racer style rims, giant wing, tinted windows, fat cannon, full body kit. I looked at it, i literally said "what a piece of rice". It then went nuts and run a 12s quarter. No longer did I consider it rice. It goes to show.. Rice is the modification of all thgings that would suggest performance without any actual modificatiopn in performace. Had that civic a shitty 1.6 normal engine and go like any other civic, yep that is rice to the . This one no. The exact opposite of rice, my mate has an early 90s civic, complete with faded paint, dents etc. He stripped the interior and went a b18c engine and box. |
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