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https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1212135021.htm
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I used to work on the theory that if you drive fast enough you're past the crash before it happens
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I bet MUARC could take the same raw data and come to a completely opposite conclusion.
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The possibility of crashes increases when the moron on the phone in front of you is doing 75kmh in a 100kmh zone with very few passing opportunities!
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But, but, but speed kills.
Not as much as inattention does, but inattention cameras don't exist.... Yet. |
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Try riding a motorbike with all these car users on the phone. Its hit or miss whether you get to you destination.
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alot of people will disagree with me but i find if i'm doing say 5-10km/h under the limit i forget my trip when i have got to me destination, if i ride the limit i tend to enjoy the drive and remember the whole trip, in my mind that means i was paying more attention to the road and my surroundings so i see the merit in higher speed limits
i ride also and the 2 types to watch out for in my area are the a-b drivers and the junky hoons, (oh and 4x4 drivers with front window stickers and roof mounted light bars)
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Crashes increase
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If that thrill isn’t high enough, ride a bicycle alongside cars doing 100km/h whilst wearing your little sisters tights. |
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In a way, automatic transmissions are enabling lots of people to be distracted by their mobile phones
Going back to clutch and manual transmissions would stop a lot of people using phones while driving. |
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I think the type of people who will play with their phone while driving will do so regardless of manual or auto. So it’s possible the manual may just create an extra hazard.
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The sense of speed and your attention is only higher when your driving faster than everyone else, if your doing 100 and everyone else is doing 80 you feel like you are flying, and if everyone and including you are doing 120 it feels slow and you lose focus on what your doing.
So the answer is drive faster than everyone else FTW |
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Bears no real correlation to this thread but when you talk low speeds , crashes etc this makes me chuckle .. How many of us come across this , especially as we head into the summer hols on our way to the coast or to work or something .. Frustration taken to a new level sometimes ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9f0QOh5KAU ... and another driving one from the one and only John Williamson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRY-2CVHM0 ... Funny stuff .. Last edited by roddy1960; 16-12-2018 at 11:23 AM. |
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I live in the regional outskirts of Melbourne, we've got a road thats about 30km long that joins us to outer Melbourne, its a single lane country highway, speed limit 100km/h - its a 'black spot' because of a huge amount of lethal accidents, there is no problem with the road, just that this happens: ![]() Some douche will play pretend policeman and then you end up with a heap of cars bunched up doing 70-80km/h and if you want to overtake you need to chop 6-10 cars in one hit, there is only 4 or so spots in 30km that are safe to overtake. There are two overtaking lanes, but what happens is someone will overtake the guy doing 80km/h at 85km/h and blocks everyone behind, or the guy doing the 80km/h suddenly finds the accelerator goes in more and goes up to 110km/h but then drops back to 80km/h when the overtaking lane is gone ![]() Easy solution - more consideration, move left for faster moving traffic, problem solved. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 16-12-2018 at 11:37 AM. |
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I estimate around 90% of the slow drivers do that. No exaggeration. Then there are the ones who accelerate when they see someone pulling out to pass them on the normal two way sections. |
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Funny enough you don't find this issue when you have a car with engine performance.
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The speed up thing is rediculous I've been in situations where we've been doing 80 then for some reason we're doing 120km/h for the duration of the overtaking lanes then back down to 80? |
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Being in the Victorian state where the emphasis is on speeding drivers going only 3kph over, and that that road is frequently patrolled, its wise not to use that performance unnecessarily. But when you suddenly find yourself having to do 120 or so to complete the overtake when only doing 80 or 85 before...
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All state government's, hwy patrol's and do-gooders have blood on their hands with every fatality and injury that occurs on our roads. Speed limits at an all time low, speeding tolerance at an all time low, speed cameras and enforcement at an all time high, speeding revenue at an all time high, car safety at an all time high; yet the road toll is woeful.
I will bet my pet pug that if all speed limits were increased by 10 km/h for 10-80 zones, and increased by 20 km/h for current 90-130 zones, and an official tolerance nationwide was made known that "up to 10 km/h above the speed limit is not an offence," we will see a reduction in fatalities, injuries and road rage incidents. Shame we don't have any federal governments with enough balls to take ownership of road rules nationally and implement a more reasonable approach (and while they're at it, just get rid of state governments altogether, will solve a multitude of other problems this country has).
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That is a ridiculous comment.
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I saw something about lowering the general speed limit all across WA with 10km. I'm not sure if that will fix the fatal accident statistics.
I think the road design needs to have soft shoulders (not large trees etc.), and there should be invested in more physical barriers between the lanes in opposite direction. This will mean more 3-lane roads with overtaking possibility alternating approx. every 5 km. Cheers, |
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i was driving on an old section of the princes hwy thats getting re-done
the old road was hilly, winding, narrow, single lane undivided with short overtaking lanes with blind corners and the speed limit was 100km/h, its 80 now due to construction zones but all do 90 anyway the new road is dual lane, divided, flat and straight and the speed limit will be 100kmh cars are safer and handle better and the road is 100% better but the same speed limit i don't get it spend more educating drivers i think
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never travel faster than your guardian angel !
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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Problem is this is a vast country, and distances at times far exceed your 30km quote. Some may travel 120km between destinations each day, all of a sudden your 4.5 minute quote becomes 18 mins or 36 mins on a daily return, which is 3 additional hours per week on the road! Now, on the flip side, if the speed was 120 instead of 100, you'd shave 3 minutes from said trip, or 7.5 mins from your 80 km/h limit for a 30km trip, which is 75 mins per week less on the road for a 30km trek, or a whopping 5 hours per week less on the road! Now calculate that over the course of a year. Time not spent on the road is time not spent on the road! Car's are safer, tyres are better, braking is better. The highway speed limit was set based on the distance it took a car in the 1970's to pull up from 70 MPH - that distance on average for a modern car is now halved, meaning limits should theoretically be increased 20 or 30 percent! The amount of people brainwashed by our inept, broke, desperate state governments who try leach driver's of every cent they can is mind boggling.
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