Kevin Rudd finished?

[Sam_Boss260]

So what the hell happened?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Elks

Rudd, Swan, Tanner & GILLARD made all the decisions.

What will swapping the leaders achieve??

This point will be missed by most...

[Geez Louise]

Originally Posted by Sam_Boss260

So what the hell happened?

I have no idea Sam_Boss260 but does it really matter? The old saying...you can't please all of the people ...all of time will still apply.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Sam_Boss260

So what the hell happened?

It's an internal party popularity contest... Problem is the winner becomes PM..

[xdc351]

I fought the miners and the, miners won.
I fought the miners and the,
Miners wonnnn.

Doubt he has the dignity not to tear the party down with him either...

[JK EX CHASER]

Originally Posted by Geez Louise

Apparently he got driven somewhere in a Holden when it should have been a Great Wall??

I have no idea Sam_Boss260 but does it really matter? The old saying...you can't please all of the people ...all of time will still apply.

He gave to much money to Toyota.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

It's an internal party popularity contest... Problem is the winner becomes PM..

Why do I have this feeling of Deja-Vu...seems like 1991 all over again.

[Falc'man]

Sayonara, Kebin O seben. Or is it "Tsie gian"?

[Romulus]

In his speech he said the country needs a price on carbon? Why doesn't he say it in other words, that is, you'll all pay more for everything.

He should bow out gracefully. Let's see if he does a Mark Latham

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by GT Falcon

Let's see if he does a Mark Latham

What, bashes a hard-working cabbie?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Falc'man

Sayonara, Kebin O seben. Or is it "Tsie gian"?

Lol... Why am I seeing team America??!

He's Lasted nearly as long as Joan kerner.. About as effective too...

[Elks]

Originally Posted by GT Falcon

Let's see if he does a Mark Latham

God I hope so. It will hilarious.

[|||]

go team julia. the alp will be out at the next election anyway but if rudd goes there's a damn good chance the moron conroy will be replaced. take your internet filter back to the hole you crawled out of conroy.

[F6T]

Originally Posted by max

I feel the country is experiencing an unprecedented low point in politics both on state and federal levels. It is difficult to get enthusiastic about any politician or party at the moment, and the polls are reflecting this.

This is exactly how I feel too. They are a very uninspiring lot, but who the hell would want to be in politics. I don't know how they do it. It is frightening how quickly things have gone pear shaped for Labor, and I couldn't be happier to see them go down and the Libs reinstated.

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by Elks

Rudd, Swan, Tanner & GILLARD made all the decisions.

What will swapping the leaders achieve??

Yep, exactly...

BUT this way, I can watch them all fall one by one, and watch as people continue to not get it.

Rudd was nothing but a salesman that appealed massively to first-time voters.

I saw 3 years ago that he was nothing but that, involved in nothing but lovely gestures that hardly deliver on all those lovely promises he made.

Good riddance, now get the hell out of my country. China has a growing economy. Perhaps he can become Emperor and run the place into the ground.

[Fez WQ]

at least the west didnt vote him in

[SVD]

Originally Posted by F6T

This is exactly how I feel too. They are a very uninspiring lot, but who the hell would want to be in politics. I don't know how they do it. It is frightening how quickly things have gone pear shaped for Labor, and I couldn't be happier to see them go down and the Libs reinstated.

i want to be in politics, but in reality unless one joined one of the main parties and kept the same BS ideas they have you'd never get elected to a position of power...

maybe we need something different...communism? it works in theory...

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by SVD

maybe we need something different...communism? it works in theory...

And so does the current method of teaching people how to drive...

[Redrum]

Dumb (Chairman KRUDD) and Dumber (DILLARD), either way, the country is ruined. They are all smoke and mirrors, no substance.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

And so does the current method of teaching people how to drive...

gold!

[Scott]

Originally Posted by F6T

It is frightening how quickly things have gone pear shaped for Labor, and I couldn't be happier to see them go down and the Libs reinstated.

What we are seeing is more of the same from the ALP with one significant difference...

They have angered the capitalist beast that lay in a relative slumber this past while, and the beast has the cash to bite anyone, or anything in its path.

We are in a box seat at the revolt - this country has been shown what can be achieved by a totalitarian, socialist and lots of other "ist" words government and it seems that organising deck chairs is how they'll show us that being a believer is more important that being realist.

Good luck kiddies, you'll need it

[DJL351]

LOL

Doesn't matter who 'wins' this little tiff tomorrow, or the election (whenever it get held)
We are stuffed anyway.

They are all over-paid bloated <insert swear word here>.

Work Choices
Mine Taxes
Boat people

Who ever is in 'power' next term is still going to screw us all over - we just get to choose the pineapple or the dunny brush.

[RSgerry]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Abbott must be rubbing his hands together tonight.....

Cant say im a huge fan of a system that allows a non elected PM....

In my mind a spill should lead to an automatic election, let the people pick THEIR PM.....

and while we are at it, ditch this preference idea. a vote for anybody but the big two should stay where it went. if i wanted to vote labor / liberal, i would do so. might as well ditch the independents seeing as a vote for them effectively counts for nothing.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

Can anyone clearly articulate the policy difference between the Govt and the opposition?

Nothing really, one starts it the other finishes it and then people get on here and make it out that their different.

But here's an article.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/ru...ml?autostart=1

Rudd's leadership hangs by a thread
PHILLIP COOREY
June 23, 2010 - 11:23PM

Kevin Rudd's leadership is hanging by a thread after his support base vanished following a push to oust him led by Right factional operators in Victoria and South Australia.

Mr Rudd announced late tonight he would put his leadership to the vote in caucus tomorrow at 9am. He said the vote came after a request from his deputy, Julia Gillard.

Ms Gillard has growing support among the caucus of 115 MPs and senators and an increasing number of factions.

These included the National Right, the Victorian Left and most of the NSW Right, including its kingmaker Mark Arbib.

Tomorrow's vote came after a dramatic night of meetings between party heavyweights. Right-wing powerbrokers spent the day counting numbers in an effort to encourage Ms Gillard to run.

She met Mr Rudd last night but her office said it was just a routine scheduled meeting, the third between the pair yesterday. But the meeting was joined by senior ministers, including Anthony Albanese, Wayne Swan and Lindsay Tanner.

It was understood Ms Gillard was reluctant to have a messy challenge and it is understood there were efforts being made to push Mr Rudd to stand down.

The push to oust Mr Rudd was led by the Victorian senator David Feeney, Victorian MP Bill Shorten, and South Australian senator Don Farrell, all right-wing heavyweights.

Sources said they met Ms Gillard this afternoon in an attempt to persuade her to run.

Rudd's secret polling on his leadership

Ms Gillard has repeatedly rejected any suggestion she would try to oust Mr Rudd. Senator John Faulkner who denied any knowledge of the party’s right canvassing party members for numbers on ABC Television earlier joined Treasurer Wayne Swan, frontbencher Anthony Albanese in the prime minister’s office.

Trade Minister Simon Crean has backed Mr Rudd, saying he wasn’t aware of any leadership challenge.

"I do not support any leadership challenge," Mr Crean said.

"Any loose talk or idle speculation on this matter is counterproductive.

"I urge solidarity behind the leader. I support Kevin as the leader."

Nine News reported that NSW senator Mark Arbib, Senator Feeney and parliamentary secretary Bill Shorten told Ms Gillard earlier on Wednesday they’d lost confidence in Mr Rudd and wanted her to run.

She gave no answer.

Tomorrow would be the last day for the rebels to mount a challenge because Parliament will rise for the eight-week winter break and many expected Mr Rudd to call an election before Parliament returned.

Mounting a leadership challenge is much more difficult when the house is not sitting because all the MPs and senators have to be recalled.

A series of policy failures, poor polls and the decision to go to war with the mining industry have all contributed to Mr Rudd’s plunging fortunes among his colleagues.

The Coalition fears a change to Ms Gillard. Although she bears responsibility for many of the government’s poor decisions, including shelving the emissions trading scheme and the controversial school buildings program, she would be harder to beat than Mr Rudd.

An Essential Media poll released this week showed that both she and Mr Rudd, however, were preferred ahead of Mr Abbott as prime minister by about the same proportion of voters.

- with AAP

[uranium_death]

I just whipped this up in MS Paint...

Julia's image looked familiar...knew I'd seen it somewhere before...

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

I just whipped this up in MS Paint...

Julia's image looked familiar...knew I'd seen it somewhere before...

Which is the before and which is the after shot? They are both so hideous.

[uranium_death]

The one on the right is from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
There's a reason why she isn't there now.

But really, it will either work two ways.
Either we'll all get caught up in the whole 'first female PM' garbage, similar to Obama being elected in the US, or nothing will change.

She was there standing behind Kevin all the time when he made all of his lovely announcements, but I get the feeling that people will become swept up in the novelty.

[Paxton]

We are seeing more of the same from the ALP, both state and federally. NSW has had three premiers in six years that we haven't voted for, and now, like in 1991, we are about to get a PM that has been voted by a party, not the people.

I do think it ironic that Rudd used an add during his campaign, that showed a picture of him, with the tag line "I will stay a full term", and then a picture of John Howard, with the line "I won't". As a lifelong Liberal, I am glad to see the back of him, however how do we know who we get next will be any better?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

I just whipped this up in MS Paint...

Julia's image looked familiar...knew I'd seen it somewhere before...

now hang on, your confused.
one's the emperor of australia and the other is emperor of holden!!

[pauljh74]

Labor playing musical chairs behind closed doors won't help them come the election. Rudd or Gillard - they are going to lose votes