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Old 25-05-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Does anyone else think that this is crap?

I was trying to list some of my car parts and couldn't because it said that you have to have paypal as a payment method.

I don't have a Paypal account, nor do I have a credit card...

eBay are going to see a member drop.

Buyer security? Bulldust. Paypal charges a fee to retreive payments. So I have to pay a listing fee, a final valuation fee, and now a Paypal fee.

Get stuffed.

What does everyone else think?

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Old 25-05-2008, 06:02 PM   #2
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you dont need a credit card to have a paypal account.
(well at least when i joined up anyway).
i dont have a creditcard, im verified and its linked to my bank account.
never had a problem to date.

i dont know how they have set up the ebay system so that payments must be made by paypal but im sure you could agree with the buyer/seller that you can make payment some other way?
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:03 PM   #3
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It makes sense when you know that paypal and eBay are owned by the same company.

PayPal website About Us page:

https://www.paypal-media.com/aboutus.cfm

"Located in San Jose, California, PayPal was founded in 1998 and was acquired by eBay in 2002."
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:04 PM   #4
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I've had to stick my prices up because of the paypal fees, stops the buyers from getting such a good bargain.Next month you will only be able to accept paypal of pick up only, no more direct bank tranfers etc
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:08 PM   #5
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they've also taken away sellers being able to leave bad feedback apparently, or so it told me today
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:15 PM   #6
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people will still use direct deposit, I have done this on many things, but then again most of my stuff comes from the states (USA) so paypal it is.
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:23 PM   #7
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Everytime I try and sign up with Paypal, it asks me for my Credit Card details.
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:37 PM   #8
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mate simple way around is when you list your item state that you dont accept paypal and you will need to be contacted buy phone to organise payment that's what i do
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:41 PM   #9
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or there is www.oztion.com.au

its slowly gaining popularity and ebays new ways may make it more popular too
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:46 PM   #10
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I was going to sell my surfboard on there and had to hand over credit card details so they can get stuffed : . Pity because i wanna sell my mountain bike on there but that wont happen.
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or there is www.oztion.com.au

its slowly gaining popularity and ebays new ways may make it more popular too
Looks not bad... I can see a lot of people using it, paticularly for buying stuff locally. Good layout and easy to get used to considering it is very similar to ebay.

Ebay seem to be getting greedy
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:52 PM   #12
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As a buyer, I think its a great idea.
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mate simple way around is when you list your item state that you dont accept paypal and you will need to be contacted buy phone to organise payment that's what i do
You have to accept it now though,

I had an add deleted, because I said if paying paypal it would cost and extra $20
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Last I heard the govt was looking into this as it was deemed to be unfair and restrictive, that an dthe fact that ebay own paypal seems uncompetitive.
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Old 25-05-2008, 08:38 PM   #15
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You have to accept it now though,

I had an add deleted, because I said if paying paypal it would cost and extra $20
That answers my question as I was thinking of doing the same..adding a small surcharge like a lot of places do for credit card payments.
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I was thinking of adding a 5% surcharge for buyers who chose to use paypal, but going on ^^^ it looks like they frown on that.
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As a buyer, I think its a great idea.

Bloody oath it is, keeps the sellers honest as well.

I have purchased around 400 items in the last 12 months, 300plus from the us, the only problem I had was the non paypal transactions.

Have to laugh at the 1st post though, seems the whole world is about to decay because of it.
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I was thinking of adding a 5% surcharge for buyers who chose to use paypal, but going on ^^^ it looks like they frown on that.

yes the you know whats i have been selling on there for years with no problems i put a surcharge of 3.2% of final sale price if paying via credit card throw paypal ebay deleted all my listings an said i was trying too rip ebay off
:togo: well in fact there ripping me off cause when someone does pays that way paypal takes a % i sold a tv for $800 winner payed via paypal
paypal took $36 out of it .
i will never go back too that site again
they make me want too start hacking again .....give them a nice big shot of DOS
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Old 25-05-2008, 09:13 PM   #19
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Bloody oath it is, keeps the sellers honest as well.

I have purchased around 400 items in the last 12 months, 300plus from the us, the only problem I had was the non paypal transactions.

Have to laugh at the 1st post though, seems the whole world is about to decay because of it.


what about the buyers that have the item breaks it then says it was broken when they got it paypal will freeze the sellers account what a joke an buyers that dont want too pay registed post then they say they never got also happened too me plenty of times but never again
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You have to accept it now though,

I had an add deleted, because I said if paying paypal it would cost and extra $20
no you dont there are some exception's and car part's is one of them
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no you dont there are some exception's and car part's is one of them
no mention of car parts and my adds would not go through without a paypal account address

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From 21 May 2008, all items listed on eBay.com.au must offer PayPal as one of the payment methods available to buyers. Learn more about the changes on eBay.com.au.

Items listed in the following categories are not required to offer PayPal as a payment method (PayPal will be optional):

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From 17 June 2008, the following categories will NOT be covered by PayPal Buyer Protection:

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or there is www.oztion.com.au
Bring it on, eBay has had it coming for a long time... I notice that oztion 'partners with' Paymate, the paypal competition, so I hope that doesn't become an auction requirement down the track...
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Old 25-05-2008, 11:47 PM   #23
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Bloody oath it is, keeps the sellers honest as well.

I have purchased around 400 items in the last 12 months, 300plus from the us, the only problem I had was the non paypal transactions.

Have to laugh at the 1st post though, seems the whole world is about to decay because of it.

Agreed.

Ive made a few purchases that were legit, but not being paypal and poor communication, I sweated on it.

All the Paypal purchases were straight forward and easy to deal with. Especially in a Day in Age where Visa Debit cards are awarded to just about anyone with a few cents to their name, I cant see the problem.

Also Ebay is a business and not a right of the internet, you gotta pay if you wanna play.
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I only use paypal - its quick an easy - also if i have to pay a slight surcharge to use it im happy to do so
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Well as far as selling goes on eBay. They can go (insert rude word here) themselves.

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I'm really surprised you can't add a surcharge on for certain payment types.

Shops are allowed to do it for credit cards (most dont seem to though).
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Old 27-05-2008, 01:15 PM   #27
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EBay is not what it use to be. I have found myself using it less because the price difference between it and normal store fronts is marginal. I do use Paypal to buy and sell because it is handy. But now if I am looking for something I head to Amazon there are some real bargains to had at the moment because of the dollar.

Do your self a favor next time you are looking at something on Ebay look for the same item on Amazon. My last delivery was a bunch of books that would have been well over $200 in OZ. They cost me $121 delivered from Amazon.
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This sucks big time all it is doing is pushing prices up and increasing costs for sellers i refuse to pay pay pal fees so i will not be selling through ebay.
if pay pal is mandatory they should be removing one level of fees either final value fee or pay pal fee
I understand the comments about keeping sellers honest but this is nothing more than a grab for cash
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correct me if im wrong here but all they are saying is that you must have PayPal as one OPTION for payment, they are not saying you MUST PAY with paypal.
you can still pay with bank transfer etc.
no one is forcing you to actually pay through PayPal if you dont want to.
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correct me if im wrong here but all they are saying is that you must have PayPal as one OPTION for payment, they are not saying you MUST PAY with paypal.
you can still pay with bank transfer etc.
no one is forcing you to actually pay through PayPal if you dont want to.
Next month they are introducing Paypal only unless picking up in person
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