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28-11-2015, 03:26 PM | #121 | |||
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It's a fair point that was made above WRT driving while mind occupied with other tasks, I try not to do that, and anticipate others idiocy. |
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28-11-2015, 05:25 PM | #122 | ||||
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Takes way longer than you'd like, believe me. Quote:
Throw the completely unexpected into the mix out on the roads in the real world and christ knows what will happen. |
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28-11-2015, 08:33 PM | #123 | ||
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Yeah, real life isn't a drag strip, but anything over 2 seconds is starting to push it. 2 seconds is a long time when driving. Watch some dash cam crashes, often from the time the hazard appears to the time the accident is over it is well within a 5 second time frame. If your reaction time is over 2 seconds, you are probably not paying attention to the road, so that is hardly a reaction time delay.
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29-11-2015, 08:10 AM | #124 | ||
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60kph is 16 meters per second.
Even with Formula One driver-like reflexes and less than the normal human reaction time of two seconds (yes it is, tests have repeatedly shown what it is in an unexpected situation...you're human), you're going to cover maybe 30 meters before even hitting the brake pedal. Two seconds is a reasonable time if you stare at your watch and notice it tick by, but when you're doing other things (like controlling a car in traffic) two seconds is gone in a flash and you would swear it's way less a time than it is. Look ahead down the road 30 meters...that's a looong way to travel. One stupid old road safety commercial used to show as one example a person stepping out from between parked cars right in front of a car and getting hit. Shockingly they blamed the car driver, saying "Slow down". Slow down? Slow DOWN? The trigger to go for the brakes in the instance they showed would have been the thud when the idiot stepped right in front of the car. Your foot would have still been on the accelerator when it happened. Too many people assume that if the "surprise" moment ever happens to them they will have god like reflexes and be on the brake pedal in a poofteenth of a second and bring the car to an amazingly controlled stop saving everyone! Drive like that isn't going to happen. Accept that your reaction time is limited by basic human physiology, failings and weaknesses, and drive accordingly. Look ahead (but not too far ahead, dangers can pop up close to you as well), try to anticipate, but also realise that if someone does do something foolish like step out in front of you, come through a stop sign, or you crest a rise on the highway at 100kph and find some idiot doing a u-turn (as I did a while back on the motorbike...a police camera van actually...) there might just be little you can do about it but try to hit the brakes as best you can and hope for the best. |
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29-11-2015, 10:05 AM | #125 | ||
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Driving with a safety margin in the sticks at night saves lives, if you cant react & stop / slow down you are going too fast. Simple physics hey! Drive within your capabilities not your car's capabilities, in most cases the two don't match up imo.
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29-11-2015, 10:09 AM | #126 | ||
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Thats easier said than done
I drive at 100km/h in NZ at night. The whole South Island is classed as rural .
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29-11-2015, 10:20 AM | #127 | ||
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What night driving on a unlit bush road at 7/10's instead of 9/10's? Well, depending on age i can agree with that!!! How much more do young people pay for car insurance again.....
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29-11-2015, 10:42 AM | #128 | ||
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See we dont really have much bush road in the South Island.
Also our insurance isnt compulsary here so it apears to be cheaper than similar cases in Aus. Think I get full cover on modified car at age of 22. . . . $1K P.A But I guess we cannot compare our roads to yours, we don't have roos but have wallabies. Few years back a guy in an older Porsche was traveling late at night came around a corner and hit a deer. Thats just unlucky
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29-11-2015, 10:49 AM | #129 | |||
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30-11-2015, 02:25 PM | #130 | ||
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The 2 - 4 sec reaction time is for a driver cruising merrily along with foot on throttle then an unexpected hazard suddenly presents itself.
That driver in the clip should have been off the gas with his foot hovering (if not lightly pressing) the brake pedal 2-4 secs after noticing the approaching driver frantically flashing his lights. If you don't agree with this then, to be quite honest, you probably should avoid driving on unlit country roads until you get some common sense. |
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30-11-2015, 03:25 PM | #131 | |||
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Personally I can not comprehend how someone gets an urgent warning like that on a remote stretch of road and chooses to completely ignore it. I could completely understand this accident happening if there was no advanced warning given well in advance.
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