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Old 07-12-2005, 01:49 AM   #121
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Reliable except for the cage bearing design fault the car had.
If by fault you mean basically being a Camry with a Holden badge slapped on lol.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:57 AM   #122
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If by fault you mean basically being a Camry with a Holden badge slapped on lol.

There were a few differences in the panel, well the JK model there was. But the Toyota parts made the car reliable.
But I believe that Ford sold a few rebadged Mazda cars.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:59 AM   #123
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There were a few differences in the panel, well the JK model there was. But the Toyota parts made the car reliable.
But I believe that Ford sold a few rebadged Mazda cars.
Sure did. I have one of such vehicles lol.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:56 PM   #124
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Only because you are judging them narrow mindedly on the basis of the connection that they have to Daewoo. I haven't seen any evidence at all to suggest that they are an unreliable car. Daewoos may have been crap but it doesn't mean that they aren't able to improve, especially with substantial GM input.
Whatever sunshine, i was judging from the ads and the look of the car, do you expect to see evidence yet? they've been out what, 2 months? relax its just an opinion
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:23 PM   #125
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Whatever sunshine, i was judging from the ads and the look of the car, do you expect to see evidence yet? they've been out what, 2 months? relax its just an opinion
Its (Viva) definitely isn't cutting edge design like other GM products re Vectra, Astra. It looks not much different from the old Ford Festivas and of course the Lanos. Still, people are buying them.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:37 PM   #126
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I saw the Viva at the motor show and it was much better built than I had expected. Sure it's Korean, but it is a sign of things to come. Remember that Japan's automotive industry used to be a laughing stock in a similiar way 30 years ago.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:43 PM   #127
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I saw the Viva at the motor show and it was much better built than I had expected. Sure it's Korean, but it is a sign of things to come. Remember that Japan's automotive industry used to be a laughing stock in a similiar way 30 years ago.
Yeah - the old Jap crap saying isn't valid anymore. But having said that, why did Ford move away from Korean based small cars to get their product from Europe. Surely it wasn't an image thing??
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:36 PM   #128
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One thing that is interesting, and weird for GMH, is how small those holden badges are on those cars, just odd really.

The only non jap/aussie/german car I would buy would be some of the new hyundai's. And teh new tiberion (sp?) is looking like a machine, RWD to boot!
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I saw the Viva at the motor show and it was much better built than I had expected. Sure it's Korean, but it is a sign of things to come. Remember that Japan's automotive industry used to be a laughing stock in a similiar way 30 years ago.
The Vivas build quality isn't any worse than the Commodore, but i dont think it was possible to go lower lol.
They are still no match on the Astra and Barina they replaced, even tho both models were showing their age.
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Why do people buy holdens? Why are there psychitrists? The answer is the same....
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Why do people buy holdens? Why are there psychitrists? The answer is the same....
Why does laminge always lock the good threads?
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