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I forgot what brand of tyre I read this: "Engineered in Germany, Made in China"
After the last year of lockdowns etc, I wondered if the German engineers who developed this tyre were stuck in China for an extended period and worked remotely would it be "Engineered by Germans, Working In China, Made in China"? |
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i have a set of Chinese tyres on my Fairmont wagon. called Hilo and they are the best wet/dry tyres I have had on the car. Their wet weather performance is terrific. the **** doesn't hang out under power anymore.
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Similar things could be said about Roll-Royce and Bentley now that they are both owned by German companies. people still view them as English cars. |
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But they still make cars in the UK, and are headquartered there. They aren't german built and headquartered. So they are still largely british companies.
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where did you read this? sounds a bit off the mark.
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yeah but not really - the Betayga manufactured at the Volkswagon Bratislava Factory. OK how about X series BMWs that are made in America?
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Final assembly takes place in Crewe alongside other Bentleys.
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yes I am aware of that.
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Likewise, I'd still buy from Volvo because although a Chinese company is the majority shareholder, the company is still run in Sweden and by and large, most of its range is still manufactured in Sweden for the Australian market. In contrast, I doubt MG has any more ties left with the original British company.
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Well have you seen Chinese designs and english language copy/manuals or ads? Chinese MG have their design and global sales staff in England for obvious reasons, that's about it.
I've gone off many things made in China myself. ZF was the big one (ford fans know them for the 6spd, but many OE parts on my old BMWs were ZF/lemforder), and it's all moved to China. Got a nice bent up strut mount a while back from Chinese lemforder. |
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Having dealt with Chinese companies from a work perspective, I find that they're actually very willing to help and support their products compared to American companies, they can be a bit staunch on minimum order quantities but if you start talking about higher unit costs then that can change
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these ones were much cheaper than any ones I had previously used. these ones cost $70 each fitted and balanced. i was not after cheap tyres but i asked the guy for his recommendation for a compromise between wet and dry performance. He got ir right and they are pretty good in the dry anyway not that i drive the wagon overly enthusiastically.
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February 2021 sales data shows MG was 8th on the list of total sales by brand. Wow!
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Anyone want to predict when MG will overtake Ford in Australia for car sales in a month?
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I was in China over ten years ago and i travelled in a Chinese built Hyundai for over an hour at 160kph and the car handled it very well. The Chinese have great engineering as long as you are prepared to pay for it and that is the problem. American buyers want the cheapest price at the lowest acceptable quality level and that has infiltrated some parts of Chinese industry. I did QC checks of restaurant products (anything from cutlery to fridges to conveyor toasters) and seldom failed anything as we paid for the quality level we wanted and they were pleased to provide it. I expect that with the number of expats working in MG and some of the other companies they are improving the quality or at the very least making it consistent quality.
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Ford is now a premium brand, I've never heard anything so laughable in my life - $32K for the Puma which is a WT Fiesta on stilts with the same 92KW/170NM 1L Ecoboost engine it had 10 years ago. I'm calling by September MG will displace Ford in sales. |
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Ford still have some fans (ranger keeping them up). Wake me up when the inevitable MG beating mits, nissan, kia and whatever happens.
Though eventually the sales chart will read: toyota, mazda, hyundai, MG, ford... But the mits, nissan, kia (E: an ex GM korea/holden) customers will flock to China before the ford/ranger buyers do. |
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The thing is that most people don't know where their vehicle is made. For instance there are plenty of BMW X5 drivers who think their car was made in Germany when it was actually made in the US.
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The EVs that European governments are ordering will all be coming from Chinese factories.
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All of the established car companies are warm with the thoughts being premium and sticking their prices up and counting the increased margin they make on each car, whilst abandoning their traditional customers. They can not even see the tsunami that is coming to kick them in the backside and trample over the top of them on the way through. If they were standing on the beach looking at the horizon there would be a wave of Chinese Electric Vehicles coming. MG is only the ripple in the front. They are too busy building sandcastles to even look up. I am predicting that by the end of this decade we will have new car makers in the top 15 that we have yet herd of and that some of the established name brands will be gone / extinct. Cars are not just going Electric they are transitioning to the Computer / Consumer Electronic Industry. I don't think they yet fully understand the implications of the Tech Giants being able to produce vehicles in the very near future, and the cost savings that ensue once volumes ramp up in that industry.
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