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Old 22-11-2015, 10:05 AM   #61
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The one thing I don't like on the AU is those stupid wheel arches. It was a last minute insistance from Detroit. AUs would look a lot more streamlined and modern without those XD Falcon things.
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Old 22-11-2015, 10:10 AM   #62
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Old 22-11-2015, 10:30 AM   #63
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VL Walkinshaw SS GRPA, the "Bat Mobile" as it was called. Hated them with a passion with new. Move on a few decades, and totally opposite. Not the best drive now compared with the modern cars but the attitude on the road is unmistakable. For an 80's car awesome!!
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Old 22-11-2015, 10:44 AM   #64
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R32 GT-R.

Hated them as a teenager because they beat up on the Sierra's in Group A touring cars but as I got older I grew to appreciate how advanced the car was and eventually bought one.
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Ford Capri Convertible. Hate it?...words could not describe my hate for it.
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Ford Capri Convertible. Hate it?...words could not describe my hate for it.
Agree with the first series, but what about the Tickford Clubsprint or XR2? They dont look too bad and Clubsprint even rare!
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Old 22-11-2015, 12:32 PM   #67
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Agree with the first series, but what about the Tickford Clubsprint or XR2? They dont look too bad and Clubsprint even rare!
I had to Google them. The XR2 has potential (If you're cashed up and love twin turbo's easy low 9's)....the Tickford Clubspint - I have just discovered an Antidote for Viagra.
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Old 22-11-2015, 02:07 PM   #68
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i wonder if all the hatred for the au would be around had the plan played out and the turbo was installed in it,instead of the ba/f with its crappy grained dash and door trims,seats
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Old 22-11-2015, 03:47 PM   #69
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The one thing I don't like on the AU is those stupid wheel arches. It was a last minute insistance from Detroit. AUs would look a lot more streamlined and modern without those XD Falcon things.
Enlighten me on exactly what is wrong with the AU wheel arches? You suggesting the AU would look streamlined and modern with all 4 wheels concealed by the bodywork ?
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i wonder if all the hatred for the au would be around had the plan played out and the turbo was installed in it,instead of the ba/f with its crappy grained dash and door trims,seats
The issue with the au wasn't the mechanicals. The issue is that they are pig ugly inside and out. Droopy horrible looking thing.

The last of the te50s with the hand built stroker was a great mechanical package. A turbo option couldn't have made up for the rest of it.
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Enlighten me on exactly what is wrong with the AU wheel arches? You suggesting the AU would look streamlined and modern with all 4 wheels concealed by the bodywork ?
I've read all the reasons under the sun as to why the au is ugly but i have never read that one before, I'm here looking at pics of au's and can't work out what part of the wheel arches is xd ???
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Yeah that one's got me stumped, I've got no idea what he means either.
Every motor vehicle under the sun has wheel arches. Maybe VL Calais and some early American 1950s vehicles had concealed wheels. Do these classify as having no wheel arches?

Someone photoshop the AU with no wheel arches for the OP

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Old 23-11-2015, 01:28 AM   #73
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I had to Google them. The XR2 has potential (If you're cashed up and love twin turbo's easy low 9's)....the Tickford Clubspint - I have just discovered an Antidote for Viagra.
Low 9s what? Surely your not talking 1/4 times....
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Every motor vehicle under the sun has wheel arches. Maybe VL Calais and some early American 1950s vehicles had concealed wheels. Do these classify as having no wheel arches?

Someone photoshop the AU with no wheel arches for the OP
Perhaps he means the AU 1's ride height.. which was a tad high and made car look a tad odd.
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Old 23-11-2015, 07:23 AM   #75
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I think what he means is the AU has the same style of flared lip around the wheel arches that Ford had put on every Falcon since the XD at that point.
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Old 23-11-2015, 08:37 AM   #76
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3 cars I've hated new.
AU, VN & the Walkinshaw.
I've owned a VN SS, VN V8 Calais, HSV SV5000, VG Maloo ute, HDT Magnum replica ute, 2 x AU XR8's and 2 Walkinshaws And I'd like to buy a VN SS Group A now.
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Old 23-11-2015, 09:20 AM   #77
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Low 9s what? Surely your not talking 1/4 times....
Different shells but same concept....if you can throw that running gear in an XR2.


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Old 23-11-2015, 12:50 PM   #79
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I have to admit that I hated the AU dash when it first came out, but it really has aged far better than the BA/F dash imo. The BA/F dash looks like huge slab of horrible cheap rough plastic, while the AU dash looks quite good from the drivers seat and is finished in a far nicer smooth textured material.
i never had a lot of joy looking at the au series 1 dash , series 2 is better , although in the xr6 for me , there is an awful lot of black(too much for my liking), by the same token , its function is bloody grouse i reckon , can just operate everything almost without taking eyes off the road , nice big buttons on the radio , just a brilliant daily , very easy/nice to drive,
im coming up to 11 years of ownership, and not regretted on minute of buying the AU.
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Old 23-11-2015, 03:33 PM   #80
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Other way around for me.
Loved the Golf R prior to purchasing and now I loathe looking at it.
16 weeks later and VW still can't fix it, plagued with electrical issues that they can't fix!
Not only will I never touch another VW product, but I won't even hand over a cent to any of their service centres either.

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Old 23-11-2015, 04:52 PM   #81
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I don't see what the issue is with them.
Well, if I'm being totally objective here, I think the BA style wheel arches would have suited the AU perfectly. Oh well, hindsight is always 20/20.
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I don't think i could ever love the AU... I wonder if the designer got the boot.
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HK-T-G Holden Brougham.
Wow that's a blast from the past! My old man used to have one, it is still the only one I've ever seen.
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I don't think i could ever love the AU... I wonder if the designer got the boot.
Think he was put on hold for development of BA, but somehow crept back into the FG design team a few years later. Only Ford knows why he was allowed back in
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I love the AU styling, always have. Its a design that challenges, it has character, it didn't conform to fashion.
Having said that (and after owning two AU's) I realise its styling isn't to all tastes and I would personally say its an ugly car, but that's why I like it.

What I can not understand, considering to most eyes the AU is ugly, how on earth the Ford management approved such a design if they knew it would cause such revolt. You could say they took the gambol on the fact it was so different that people would buy it for that alone. But it wasn't different in a good way, again, it was just plain ugly. Its not a matter of blaming the designer (Steve Park, who also returned for the FG) but the management that allowed to go to production.
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The AU Lowndes used to tear it up in looked great....with the green eyes.
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The AU Lowndes used to tear it up in looked great....with the green eyes.
I think the blacked out section of the Lowndes' AU Xr headlight closely resembles a BA Xr headlight. Blacking out any AU3 Falcon in a similar fashion almost results in something that looks like a BA.
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If I remember correctly, the AU style was forced on Ford Aus. for the corporate look of Ovals and Triangles. Taurus was another. The BA sold well, as many people liked the styling. The engine is also good, Au's were a good Car mechanically, and being cheap / ugly are a good buy on the second hand market. The head gasket problems were gone, and you could drive them without cooking the engine. If they lost coolant they ran rich and shut down cylinders. Dont want to try it, but that is what is meant to happen.
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If I remember correctly, the AU style was forced on Ford Aus. for the corporate look of Ovals and Triangles. Taurus was another. The BA sold well, as many people liked the styling. The engine is also good, Au's were a good Car mechanically, and being cheap / ugly are a good buy on the second hand market. The head gasket problems were gone, and you could drive them without cooking the engine. If they lost coolant they ran rich and shut down cylinders. Dont want to try it, but that is what is meant to happen.
Once watched a video, Holden vs Ford. No coolant and no oil. Full throttle applied. The VT died in 12 minutes. The AU went for 12 hours, and apparently even when it stalled it could still start. Wonder if the BA Falcon has this same death-proof technology fitted?
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Once watched a video, Holden vs Ford. No coolant and no oil. Full throttle applied. The VT died in 12 minutes. The AU went for 12 hours, and apparently even when it stalled it could still start. Wonder if the BA Falcon has this same death-proof technology fitted?
Full throttle for 12 hours & no oil /water... seriously....
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