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View Poll Results: Park manual car in neutral or gear? | |||
Gear | 144 | 75.39% | |
Neutral | 47 | 24.61% | |
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02-09-2008, 08:25 PM | #61 | |||
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02-09-2008, 08:29 PM | #62 | |||
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That was tongue n cheek...the handbrake in the GT I've had no problems with so far ....However my previous BA (Mk1) was back to Ford no less than 4 times to get sorted....handbrake problems on BA's are more common than driveline clunk problems in BOSS manuals
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02-09-2008, 08:42 PM | #66 | |||
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02-09-2008, 08:46 PM | #67 | ||
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I don't trust the handbrake in the BF so I leave it in gear.
The BA has a well-adjusted handbrake so it sits in neutral.
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02-09-2008, 08:49 PM | #68 | |||
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I might add that if the trans does become locked in park it requires lifting the rear wheels off the ground to get the weight off the trans, nasty thing to do on a steep hill.
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02-09-2008, 08:50 PM | #69 | |||
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02-09-2008, 08:55 PM | #70 | ||
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Handbrake and in nuetral all the way, but yeah, i drive a lancer, it has a good handbarake haha
But on the bike its in gear for sure, as its lighter and more likely to roll. and for the simple lack of a handbrake |
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02-09-2008, 08:55 PM | #71 | ||
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Any way for me, in our drive (which is dead flat) I park in neutral so I can lean in, start the car and allow it to warm up a bit while I load stuff in the car. Out and about I leave it in gear as I do not completely trust the ford park brake. If it rolls in my driveway, downhill side is my garage door and I doubt it will get enough speed to roll through that.
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02-09-2008, 08:57 PM | #72 | |||
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02-09-2008, 09:07 PM | #73 | |||
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Automatic -Stop vehicle using foot brake -Put shift leaver into neutral -Apply hand brake firmly -Release foot brake -Place trans in park -exit vehicle. Correct, unless police department driving assessors know nothing.
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02-09-2008, 09:08 PM | #74 | |||
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This is how mistakes are made, every high risk job has procedure that is followed all the time making it habit, rather than a decision making process. I know when I get out of the car the hand brake is on and the car is in gear, every single time no matter where it is parked. So if someone asks me did you ally the hand brake I can say YES with confidence and without thinking about it, its like putting on your seat belt it is just habit and happens every time I get in the car. |
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02-09-2008, 09:17 PM | #75 | |||
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Yeah, most people have their mind in neutral when they park and get out.
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02-09-2008, 09:20 PM | #76 | |||
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Manuals First ratio 3.35:1, Reverse ratio 3.15:1 Should use the ratio which provides maximum effectiveness. |
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02-09-2008, 10:17 PM | #78 | ||
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Anybody think to refer to their owners manual to see what the manufacturer of the vehicle has to say? After all, they should have a fair idea, wouldn't you say?
From my T series manual Driving with a manual transmission Parking "Firmly apply the park brake, switch the engine off and remove the key. Shift the gear lever into 1st if facing uphill or reverse if facing downhill. Ensure the gear lever is fully engaged. Release the clutch after the engine stops." Driving with an automatic transmission Selector lever positions P=Park "This position should only be used when the vehicle is stationary. In this position the transmission is locked. Park is fully engaged when the selector lever cannot be moved without first depressing the lock release on the selector lever. Do not use the park position in place of the park brake. Always ensure the park brake is firmly applied before leaving a parked vehicle." (Notice that the manual doesn't say to only use the park brake AND the P position is for when the vehicle is stationary). My interpretation of this is that both Park and the handbrake should be used! R = Reverse "This position should be selected only when the vehicle is stationary and the engine idling." N = Neutral "This position should be selected when the starting the engine or when idling. No power is transmitted to the drive wheels." (Notice the manual doesn't say to engage neutral to park the vehicle! If it did it would contradict what it says under the heading of Park)
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And to some of the moderators who posted in this thread and questioned its relevance whilst contributing nothing - one has to wonder about why you hold the position. You should be promoting/supporting safety which is exactly what this thread is about.
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02-09-2008, 10:46 PM | #80 | ||
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Since we're talking about gears - I've been told that shifting into N in an auto as I roll to a stop is bad for the car. Is there truth to this, and if so, why?
I tend to like the smoother stop I get with it finishing at lights etc in N. Using the SSS in the Turbo kinda negates it in traffic now though but I'm still curious...
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02-09-2008, 11:27 PM | #82 | |||
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i'm sure cams or andra talk about safety all the time so why can't we discuss it? no-ones making you read it i say anything that promotes a more positive image for car enthusiasts the better, that way we're not associated with 'hoons' the new scapegoat for societies problems. |
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02-09-2008, 11:37 PM | #83 | ||
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When parking a manual : First i let the handbrake hold the cars weight so that there is no weight on the gearbox then i select 3rd gear , this is more than enough to hold the car if the handbrake should fail. plus the natural position of the gear leaver is inline with 3rd and 4th so there is minimal were and tare on the nylon bushes.
an auto : same as about put in neutral let the handbrake take up the weight then select park . just my 2 bubs worth
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What the is this? If you're going to constantly post like the above, then just leave. |
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03-09-2008, 01:46 AM | #87 | |||
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All 3 of my cars are autos and I apply the handbrake after stopping , then take my foot off the brake pedal so the weight is taken up by the handbrake then select Park.
However my truck is a manual with air brakes and I have never left it in gear when parked. The last manual car I had was my old XC Panel Van and I always put the handbrake on and left it in neutral when on a flat but in gear when parked on an incline. Andy. |
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03-09-2008, 01:56 AM | #89 | |||
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Seriously though i think silver ghia has summed it up perfectly....it all depends on your situation and your judgement on what is the best way to go. This reminds me of a piece of advice people used to tell me about the 'early days' of autos....to put them in neutral at the lights to save engine strain and warped rotors due to clamped on brakes (holding against Drive). Turns out you'd be better off letting it 'strain', not worth the cost to overhaul the auto not to mention the hassle and embarrasment if you forget to reselect D then boot in in neutral Cars are designed for MUCH GREATER ABUSE then people realise...yes it is 'better' to do some of these different methods suggested but you'd won't save sweet you know what in the long run and its nothing a bit of tlc won't fix. As long as you don't thrash the hell out of your car then you will generally be ok. For the record i always park a manual in 1st (could do reverse too but don't bother), i usually stop in first if im lazy with the clutch in (or whatever gear....doesn't make a diff.). I always start with the car in neutral as well, don't know why just told too when i learnt to drive. I am interested in this whole 'stop in neutral' for autos though....never really thought of it but it seems to make sense to handbrake then put in park....i don't bother, just into park, then handbrake, release foot brake then turn car off. I do get the 'clunk' when moving out of park sometimes, but i'm yet to be convinced that does any measurable damage (apart from sounding uncouth...). In the garage i just leave it in park (but no handbrake) on flat surface.....this way a kid or somethngi can't push it around if they try but you don't have a sticky handbrake (or so i was told.....) Oh and i do turn the wheel toward the curb a bit on steep hills.....a school teacher i had once told me about it years ago....exta bit of protection.
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