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if you can get your hands on a copy of the sydney daily telegraph from last friday (or maybe check their website?) they did a big full page article on the mining boom in that area.
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Is it possible to find a mining job that is realatively close to civilisation (ie within 100km of somewhere) where accommodation doesn't cost your first born? My wife isn't too keen on living anywhere much more isolated than here. Plus FIFO doesn't really appeal when 2 kids under 2.
Is an agricultural background attractive for a machine operator type job? I am guess you would have to start out as a labourer first before getting an operators job. |
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CRIKEY ALLMIGHTY . i cant understand the logic people are using here with questions . i have to say , if mining is good and you can earn great money go for it sure .
but ask some decent questions . heres some questions i'd be asking . how much would i earn ? what would the living expenses be ? what are the health hazards? will it shorten my life expectancy ? why do people leave the mines ? why is there high rates of absenteeism ? is there a high turnover ? are immigrants working along side you ? if so are they safe? are they trained the same ? and on the same money? and working for the same employer as i will be ? what is coal miners lung? / or black lung? and is it preventable ? what is the injury rate/ and accident fatality rate ? all i'm seeing here is how much money you can get . if thats the criteria people are looking at no wonder boneheads cant shove sticks up a dogs rear . i'd want to have an understanding of all these things before i accept any role . |
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well me being a tradie have always considered the mines as a fall back position , to earn top dollars if i need it . but truly i do not know the answers to any of those questions , because i've never worked in a mine . and yes the questions are also relevent to every other industry also . so will my common sense enable me to have an idea of if immigrants are working in the same mines, for the same money , by the same employer , with the same training? DID I EVER EXPLAIN THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "ASSUME" |
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I want to get into the mines as a cleaner or a kitchen assistant , i been trying for a very long time
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My father is the Surface Operations Manager at the largest coal producer in QLD(Oaky Creek Coal) and I could have a job there in a heartbeat, but there is that self satisfaction you get from working for what you achieve in life without expecting someone to just give you a start. |
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One thing that a lot of people don't take into account is the amount of hours you have to work, for the money.
I have a few friends who work (or have worked) in the mining industry and they were doing things like 14 x 12 hour days in a row and then 7 days off. That's 168 hours for their 2 weeks on and even if you average it out over the 3 weeks, it's still 56 hours a week. That's still 50% more hours than the average bloke. It's not so much that they're high paying jobs, it's just that the rosters average out to a lot of hours, so you earn more money. But, if you're not a high earner in your current job and can handle the pace, then I guess it's a good option. Personally I'm happy in my 38 hour a week job with a nice office :-) |
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where i work, we have 5 different crews on slightly different rosters. my roster is 3x12hour night shifts, fri night, sat night & sun night, then i have the rest of the week off. Quote:
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in answer to those questions posed above. i can only talk for the underground coal industry, but be prepared to have safety drilled into you every shift. i've been a miner since '84 and have seen a lot of changes over the years. i spent a few years out in the water industry too and it was the same there. it can drive you mad sometimes as it seems overkill, but it has made a significant difference. lost time injury frequency rates in NSW have come down from over 100 about 10 years ago to about 14. it is an inherently hazardous occupation and sometimes things can go wrong, but the incidence of that happening is a lot lower now. afaik, it's not an industry that hires migrant labor?? certainly not in the mines i've been at although there's a lot of kiwis bru's in the pits now!! lol... black lung is not a big issue anymore with more effective ventilation and PPE available. happy to answer any questions people throw my way in here. may as well make use of my experience...
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Thanks mate thats great to know , the safety standards have improved a lot . thanks for answering my questions . if the jobs are there I SAY GO FOR IT . if i was young and starting out i dont think i'd be anywhere else . |
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Peter Beattie made a bold claim some years ago after a miner was killed on a machine he should not have been operating that "the ability to use any implement on a mine should be privileged".... or words to that effect. That means a worker should be skilled, ticketed, directed and fit to undertake every aspect of his work, from walking through the front gate to driving a ship loader. |
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post no#9 Donating Member3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wait.Awhile. Posts: 1,471 Default Re: Who works in the mines and what doing Over here in WA all the big names are screaming for people. NRW, MACCA, Hamptons, to name a few. I'm in fixed plant construction atm, over 10 yrs exp, middle management role, and I can tell ya, most of the plant operators here couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dogs backside. now for where i work , there is far more stringent approach to safety paper work also , its called sign here , and get to work . Last edited by gtfpv; 02-08-2011 at 05:02 PM. |
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I have been trying to get into the mines for the last 4 months and have had no luck, at first i tried in Mackay area and now im trying in the Pilbra but with no luck.
I have 10 years experience as a Heavy Vehicle/Plant Mechanic, but with no actual mining experience it seems they dont even look at you. Im not sure if it just me or is it really hard to get a start from the outside or if you dont know anybody?
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it is still hard to get in mate, but you also will here stories of mine jobs just falling into peoples laps (right place and time) but keep at it it will happen (took me 6 months to get my foot in) just keep going to labour hire companies and ring them up everyweek asking if they have found a job for you yet
for the pilbara have you tried putting your resume in with skilled enginering, workpack, benchmark, DT workforce are just a few of labour hire companies also try NRW, Henry walker elton, leightons, these companies do lots of work for BHB and Rio
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Cheers for that info i will try the other companys tonight.
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hey guys currently live in brisbane just wondering which labour hire companies do contracting for mines over here thanks in advance
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Anyone heard of HWE Mining? They are in the middle of a huge recruitment drive.
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I have heard there are new mines opening soon-ish near Mudgee and Gunnadah.
Perhaps people looking for a start should look into them. Driving trains for the coal mines in the hunter valley is a great job. With 1 barracks job a week, drivers can get $120,000. Average shift you work for 9 hours (but it can vary from 3 hours to 12 hours) I seam to be only working 3-4 days most weeks. 5 days on an unlucky week. Most of the time you are not actually at the mine site so you don't have to worry about breathing in coal dust all day. It is generally a laid back job because the trains don't really run to a time table (around here at least) On night work you sometimes get a bit of shut eye. Normally when you turn up to a mine the train loader is not ready for you, so you get some downtime. I hear working in remote places like the Pilbra, you can earn more then $150,000 for driving the trains. |
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FIFO can be good and bad. Ive only been working in mine for 4 months but ive seen the good and bad sides of it from co-workers.
Good is you can live where you want but work where the money is. Bad is its hard to rush home on short notice for a family emergency etc. Also lose half to a full day in travel time plus finding flights that match your roster if you have to organize your own. At the mine im at theres guys from all over flying in to work, Cairns to Tasmania and all inbetween.
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I have worked for rio for the last 5 years in various systems roles both fifo and residential and am now based in Perth
I got my break by moving to one of the mining towns and had a job within six months. I was lucky in that my missus was a teacher in the town so we already had housing. What has already been said has here is true. Try the hiring companies (skilled and skm are two i can think of.) They are mostly looking for people who are willing to do fifo or willing to move up to site but rio already have an ops center in Perth and BHP are in the process of building one, so jobs are opening up in Perth. Main thing is that they want people who already have some skills, and are a little bit pro-active. I also happen to know that the big two are desperate for controllers at the moment (both plant and train) so keep an eye on the rio and bhp websites. |
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