double din's in the Aye You - Page 3

blackers10 · 09-02-2008, 10:45 PM

i was looking for that tutorial the other day!!
thanks for that mate!! its great for those who need it

ronwest · 09-02-2008, 10:48 PM

Thanks stocko but doesn't really help me. I already had aftermarket headunit, speakers amps, wiring etc.

I would have thought that it would be a simple matter of "Front" RCA's to Alpine amp (same as previous hu).
I'll have to refer to the Alpine manual to see if I can change crossover settings (or whatever).

ronwest · 09-02-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackers10

on the cheapy chinese screens they dont even have to be connected to work LOL

Yeah the radio and cd/mp3 would work but the brake wire had to grounded for the dvd side of things to work.

StealthAu · 09-02-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ronwest

Thanks stocko but doesn't really help me. I already had aftermarket headunit, speakers amps, wiring etc.

I would have thought that it would be a simple matter of "Front" RCA's to Alpine amp (same as previous hu).
I'll have to refer to the Alpine manual to see if I can change crossover settings (or whatever).

Seeing as you said only your tweeters were working I figured you must have premium sound. But seing as you don't, it should just be a matter of wiring it up as per the previous headunit. If you are sure no sound is comming from your mids it would have to be a problem with your crossovers, or the wiring coming from them to the mids. This might sound like a stupid question, but its not just a matter fo the settings on the headunit? As in the bass turned down and trebble cranked up? If all the speakers were working before and nothing has been touched from the rca's to the speakers, it has to be something to do with the head unit.

HLC · 10-02-2008, 01:06 AM

ronwest, where did you ground the handbrake wire???

im not too good on all things electrical. im sure i could install this H/U no worries if/when i get one, but things like grounding, and where ive got no idea lol

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HLC

ronwest, where did you ground the handbrake wire???

For the time being I wrapped it around the hu earth connection.

I'm struggling to get the front speakers to work. The tweeters work ok but not the door speakers (rca's).

I fancy it's a setting in the menu but whilst the manual is quite comprehensive in some areas it's sadly lacking in others. Probably going to be quicker if I email them and get them to walk me through it.

There is no doubt that on face value this unit is good buying at around $300 give or take.
Obviously it will lack some of the features and quality of blackers' JVC but it's also less than a third of the price.

I'll hook up the hu speaker wires (no amp) tomorrow and have a listen for you through my rear stock speakers. I get the feeling that it will be quite ok.

Anyhoo, I'll email this crew and head off to bed for a further read of the dreaded manual ;)

blackers10 · 10-02-2008, 02:19 AM

im having trouble getting the headunit to slide all the way in..

i think its due to the 10000000000 wires comming out the back of it.. and the stupidly designed AU dash that has a big steel plate around the whole rear end of the headunit area so you cant get a hand up and pull everything out the way:@

the closest i got it was less than 1/4" from the top and all the way in at the bottom..
then the left channel decided it didnt want to work any more.. hmm
so have given up for the night and am heading to bed also..

damn wiring crapness!!

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blackers10

im having trouble getting the headunit to slide all the way in..

lol, not our night, huh?

If you want to measure the depth of yours I'll compare it to mine in the morning.

You're right about the wires though ;)

HLC · 10-02-2008, 09:29 AM

cheers ronwest!

blackers, just "modify" that backing plate lol im sure its not that neccessary!

fordon · 10-02-2008, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=ronwest]lol, not our night, huh?

If you want to measure the depth of yours I'll compare it to mine in the morning.

All about size

blackers10 · 10-02-2008, 01:08 PM

my unit is approx 160mm long
the biggest problem is that stupid metal bar that the unit sort of sits ontop of.. you have to push the unit upward at an angle to get over it AND make sure you dont pinch any wires underneath it

and yes i may modify that metal plate at the back if i cant get it in LOL

aye you · 10-02-2008, 02:05 PM

so let me get this straight, the DVD function of the hu won't work without the handbrake engaged? any way around this as i want one for when i drive down to alice springs and my partner/myself can watch a movie when i/she's not driving

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackers10

my unit is approx 160mm long
the biggest problem is that stupid metal bar that the unit sort of sits ontop of.. you have to push the unit upward at an angle to get over it AND make sure you dont pinch any wires underneath it

There must be a difference in the dash's.... my unit is 190mm long from rear to front of screen and as you can see from the previous pic the top sits flush with the top edge of the hole. It just slides in and would probably slide in a further 10+mm..

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Originally Posted by aye you

so let me get this straight, the DVD function of the hu won't work without the handbrake engaged? any way around this as i want one for when i drive down to alice springs and my partner/myself can watch a movie when i/she's not driving

Up to you whether or not you include the handbrake function. I don't know the road rules re dvd/tv but I would imagine that legally you'd be obliged to have the handbrake included in the equation.
When I was searching for info on whether the handbrake wire was 12v or earthed I came across quite a few posts regarding this issue. If you were to google "dvd disable brake" there are many posts stating how to get around it.
As I said in an earlier post mine is working for testing without the wire being connected to the handbrake.

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 05:55 PM

Hey HLC, I hooked up my rear stocks (normally I have them faded off so had forgotten how ordinary they are, lol) and can repoprt the hu is quite impressive.
1/4 volume is plenty loud enough with car stationary so I took it up to 1/2 to impress the neighbours, lol.
Adjustment -bass, treble etc - is really easy with the touch screen but a decent set of speakers would help ;)
Again, for the price the hu is very good.

StealthAu · 10-02-2008, 06:13 PM

Did you work out the problem with the splits?

HLC · 10-02-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ronwest

Hey HLC, I hooked up my rear stocks (normally I have them faded off so had forgotten how ordinary they are, lol) and can repoprt the hu is quite impressive.
1/4 volume is plenty loud enough with car stationary so I took it up to 1/2 to impress the neighbours, lol.
Adjustment -bass, treble etc - is really easy with the touch screen but a decent set of speakers would help ;)
Again, for the price the hu is very good.

awesome!!!! so hopefully it sounds alright with my kenwood speakers (KFC-C5780ie's 5x7's which go alright i reckon), and if i dont like it/want a sub/amp shouldnt be too hard to wire it in!

thanks for posting all that up

: now i just gotta wait for my backpay to come through!

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stockoau

Did you work out the problem with the splits?

I haven't had a real chance today to fiddle around with it but I had a good read of the manual last night and I just don't get it.
My setup is hu (rca) -> amp -> external crossovers -> mid/tweeters.

I'm by no means an expert at this stuff but it seems to me that if the tweeters work it means that the rca's work?

Happy for any comments/suggestions from those who have a cloo but other than that I'll plod along...

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

so hopefully it sounds alright with my kenwood speakers (KFC-C5780ie's 5x7's which go alright i reckon)

I'm not familiar with those but no doubt they're better than the stocks so you'll be happy. I really don't think you'll need a sub with this unit. It's 'sposed to be 4x65w, which could mean anything but I tell you straight it was the speakers that were letting it down.

ronwest · 10-02-2008, 09:04 PM

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I really don't think you'll need a sub with this unit.

oops, meant you won't need *amp*...

KOUPE76 · 10-02-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

and if i dont like it/want a sub/amp shouldnt be too hard to wire it in!

Hey Henri, let me know when you are in need of amps and subs, my system is out of the car so have plenty for ya!! :evil3:

Mick

HLC · 10-02-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUPRNT XR8

Hey Henri, let me know when you are in need of amps and subs, my system is out of the car so have plenty for ya!! :evil3:

Mick

got any 10"

remember i listen to heavy metal. so they need to be punchy and fast for all that brutal double kick

StealthAu · 10-02-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

got any 10"

remember i listen to heavy metal. so they need to be punchy and fast for all that brutal double kick

I have 2x 12's and they don't seem to miss a beat.

KOUPE76 · 10-02-2008, 09:54 PM

Only have the 12's which all have dual voice coils and are plenty for heavy metal.

Sepultura never sounded so good. :sm_headba :sm_headba

blackers10 · 10-02-2008, 10:21 PM

PHEW
i got mine in

turns out the wires were just not playing ball and were just mashing against the metal plate rather than doing what wires are good at and BENDING downward out the way..

after slicing my finger open on the cage she is in and working brilliantly!!

HLC i recommend running your RCA cables and hooking them up if you have an amp or not.. as it saves removing the headunit again later down the track..just keep some rubber or leccy tape over the ends as they are LIVE wires (outside is pos, inside is neg.. or other way round? *shrugs*)

im EXTREMLY happy with my JVC KW-AVX900

1 issue i came accross was it is a 5.1 channel unit.. so has 2 pairs of RCAs then a single center and subwoofer rca out.. but this is rectified with a 1->2 splitter OR a 1->2 RCA cable that the chap at JBhifi was directing me to prior to me asking if the splitter would be ok with the current RCAs i already had!

now the fun task of manufacturing the surround *hides*

and to hook up the antenna part for the TV (running wires up the A pillar to some stick on metal strips that go on the windscreen)

also for the DVD playback.. legally you need to have it run to the Handbrake
but i just earthed it out to the ground of the headunit.. works fine

HLC · 10-02-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUPRNT XR8

Only have the 12's which all have dual voice coils and are plenty for heavy metal.

Sepultura never sounded so good. :sm_headba :sm_headba

well i got a 12" box. what sort of $$$ are we talking (remember im a povo uni student

: ). and what are the amps?

just checked my speakers and they are only 40watt rms which is pretty girly, 220watt max

ronwest · 11-02-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blackers10

PHEW
i got mine in

Pffttt... I got mine in as well....and then out... and then back in...and then...

Still no joy with front splits on ext amp. I hooked the fronts up to the head unit's int amp and it's really quite good. I've asked the question over at eonon but if it turns out the unit is faulty I'll give it to my daughter and have a close look at your model JVC.

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Originally Posted by blackers10

1 issue i came accross was it is a 5.1 channel unit.. so has 2 pairs of RCAs then a single center and subwoofer rca out..

Yeah, same as my Sony.

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now the fun task of manufacturing the surround *hides*

Don't hide... make two, lol.

Glad it's in and working for you, mate. One outa two aint bad ;)

blackers10 · 11-02-2008, 12:27 AM

yes mine was in and out and in and out LOL
almost like a cheap porn flick LOL
the cheap crappy aerpro adaptor plug 1 of the wires snapped off damn it so had to resolder it after i had got the unit IN lol

have you looked to make sure the amp isnt on HIGHPASS or the head unit for that matter??

as it may be sending only high freq to the amp/ speakers which get cut off by the crossover

ronwest · 11-02-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackers10

the cheap crappy aerpro adaptor plug 1 of the wires snapped off damn it so had to resolder it after i had got the unit IN lol

yeah, happened to me on when I changed out of the stock hu. On this adaptor I ran some electrical tape around the bunch to give it a bit of support.

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Originally Posted by blackers10

have you looked to make sure the amp isnt on HIGHPASS or the head unit for that matter??

as it may be sending only high freq to the amp/ speakers which get cut off by the crossover

I've checked most of the amp/crossover stuff and it all looks ok - should do, it works ok on the Sony - but some of the settings in the head unit I'm not so sure about. Descriptions are sparse at best and I'm no expert so it's not a great combination.
I'm equally leaning towards a hu rca out fault (but can't understand why the tweeters would work) or a setting in the hu.
I'm hoping it's the latter but either way it's no big production.

JC · 11-02-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ronwest

yeah, happened to me on when I changed out of the stock hu. On this adaptor I ran some electrical tape around the bunch to give it a bit of support.

I've checked most of the amp/crossover stuff and it all looks ok - should do, it works ok on the Sony - but some of the settings in the head unit I'm not so sure about. Descriptions are sparse at best and I'm no expert so it's not a great combination.
I'm equally leaning towards a hu rca out fault (but can't understand why the tweeters would work) or a setting in the hu.
I'm hoping it's the latter but either way it's no big production.

I'd be leaning towards the high pass filter being on in the HU. If one half of the speaker combination works, then it can't be the RCAs. As the tweeters work from the amp, it could a HP filter switch on the amp, or a HP filter on the HU. Good luck finding it though!

ronwest · 11-02-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

I'd be leaning towards the high pass filter being on in the HU. If one half of the speaker combination works, then it can't be the RCAs. As the tweeters work from the amp, it could a HP filter switch on the amp, or a HP filter on the HU. Good luck finding it though!

Yeah thanks mate, I've ratted through the Alpine manual for inspiration but everything is good according to it.
Here's an example of the of the sound setting info in the Eonon manual:-

Bit sparse, eh? lol