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I doubt too many here would buy a 4cyl mustang, lucky ford do an 8cyl one too hey!
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No apology necessary, I don't even come from the era you ranted about so I don't feel it was directed at me personally. I just find your posts amusing and hypocritical.
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300 > 260 last I checked... Combine that with the lower weight. I thought you were a realist?
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Thats true, holden have obviously done something right with the VF commodore.
Sales last year Falcon =6K commodore =30K. That is quite a big difference. With that few sales no wonder they had no money to spend on the FG-X. It will be interesting to see the sales months when the XR8 starts to sell and see if it lifts ford sales. Maybe able to get a break down of XR8 vs SSV-R sales. Now that would be interesting.
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You're right Aaron, with such a small budget we should be amazed at how much of a hiding the xr8 has delivered to the SS in the engine department.
Genuinely though I think all of us have lost here. There aren't actually any winners, the war is over soon and the people that love aussie v8's are the ones losing.
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203kw at the wheels for an SS redline?...LOL...
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Did anyone hear about the two press cars (SS and XR8) that were crashed at the Wodonga Track? I saw some good photos of the SS they were hiding at the local Holden Dealer between Christmas and New year with big damage...
Wonder if it was these cars.. Last edited by tjb45; 10-01-2015 at 12:49 AM. |
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Not many, that’ll be left to a few idiots that don’t value their licences, care if their cars are impounded or the safety of other road users. These days unless you take the cars to a track or drag strip their performance is a muted point as the sales of motor vehicles in general prove. Full blooded horsepower and handling characteristics are mainly irrelevant to most people and given the heavy handedness towards hoon type behaviour, it’s one of the reasons the general public refer to them as dinosaurs and don’t buy these cars any more. When Ford and Holden were selling big numbers of cars in Australia it wasn’t the performance models that were their bread and butter, it was the family hacks. Even many collectors and classic car owners don’t use straight out performance cars as the reason for their purchase, build or interest. Time moves quickly and soon the only people who are going to care which brand had the best performance models will be a few rusted on grey haired great granddads. So why get hung up on just the performance part of the article. Why not talk comfort, road handling, safety, technology, resale, popularity, reliability, cost of service, after sales support, available options and finish quality for a change and have some different arguments from all the other recent threads that have been dominated by the same few members and their around and around in circles opinions. |
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Yep times have really changed since I got my licence. I use to luv being first at the lights, because if another hot car pulled up it was on. And if the cops pulled you up they would say to pull your head in and stop being stupid.
AHHH those were the days. It was a great time to drive.. Drop the oil on a Friday night at the Scarborough beach car park. Drive in on a Saturday night. Back up the Sandman... Roads were full of SL/R SS XU1 toranas XY XA XB XC GTs. Monaros, Chargers, It was real freedom. I am so glad I got to live it.
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The answer to "why not talk about boring stuff" pipes is that it's boring. The reason people talk about the performance even if it can't be used is because it's exciting. Although if you read there are quite a few comments on road manners in this thread, it seems xr8 was given those honours in this review.
So let's take performance out of it now then. The xr8 sounds better when cruising or applying small bits of acceleration. That alone is worth the win, holden really don't do a good stock exhaust. Mate of mine has a nice walky exhaust on his ve and that sounds fantastic but it also adds $. PS the only people talking in circles are the ones talking about members rather than the topic at hand, why do you feel you need to silence the discussion with the same "circle" comment all the time? (ironic hey, you keep posting the same thing)
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Why not talk comfort, road handling, safety, technology, resale, popularity, reliability, cost of service, after sales support, available options and finish quality for a change and have some different arguments from all the other recent threads that have been dominated by the same few members and their around and around in circles opinions.[/QUOTE]
Seriously mate, perhaps you would be better off discussing that over on the Toyota Camry thread....? If I am going to buy a "performance car" then the most important thing is its performance (drivetrain) by at least 51%. That means while all the other stuff is nice to have and adds points to the overall driving experience, it will collectively never be more important than the drivetrain. If the other stuff is so important to you, then go review a Calais, G6E, C or 3 series which will have a lot better features than the cars being discussed here is this thread. Next you will be telling as that a hookers most important quality is being able to spoon you afterwards and take you out to lunch the next day....! |
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Granted, the XR8 sounds better with the stock exhaust, but the LS motors sound better with aftermarket exhausts...blower whine aside. |
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But it wont 'really' be 500kw
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Remote start doesn't apply to manuals
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Next you will be telling as that a hookers most important quality is being able to spoon you afterwards and take you out to lunch the next day....![/QUOTE] It might be your priority, but you are wrong to assume its everyones. I look at the total package and I can't believe that others who buy V8's or Turbo's for that matter only consider straightline speed. Maybe its an age thing. At nearly fifty I really don't care if you beat me at the lights, but I do love the sound and effortless power of my V8 car. I've owned three V8's new and one AWD Turbo new since my thirties and none of them were the fastest at the time I purchased them, but I considered them the best all round packages for me and my circumstances at the time. If you wasn't impressed by them at the lights, I don't care then or now. I don't buy my cars because I want to impress you or anyone else. I buy them because I want to enjoy them for me. if someone else likes them that's nice, but I loose no sleep if they don't. Please don't assume everyone is looking at top speed as the one and only factor in a performance car and why they would enjoy owning one. Last edited by DanielXR8; 10-01-2015 at 01:27 PM. |
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Fair enough Daniel, but what separates these cars in those areas?
Safety, both 5* Handling, on a road some say xr8 some say ss, probably depends what your after. Tech, ss has a few more toys but the xr8 is no slouch. Resale, I'd predict xr8 but who knows? Cost of service both offer fixed price After sales support, depends on your dealer, both have idiots in their dealer network. Options, both are specced up Finish quality, seen good and bad examples of both makes. They're all kinda boring topics with minimal differentiation imo. The major difference is the engine and performance.
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Build quality would have to go the Commodores way wouldn't it it's not the first review to say the xr8 already has dash rattles. Tech would also go their way just for the track mode esc and heads up display. And then engine is all fords way.
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When is the SS due to get the LS3?
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We could go on like this tit-for-tat and ping-ponging all day. I remember the early 2000's when the Tickford Fords would always get done by the HSV's in straightline performance but the Ford was the better overall handling package; the HSV's won the comparos on the basis of horsepower as that's what the journos considered important. Now we've come half-circle where the Ford holds the straightline performance edge and it's the Holden which has the overall package edge. Most journos now seem to consider this important over horsepower and straightline performance. My point is that it is not a matter of changing goalposts; this happens naturally through improvement and evolution of the cars themselves. As fans, of either marque, it's only natural we promote (defend?) the strong points of our respective brand. I think you should have those beers with Potts, maybe he'll take you for a spin in his GT. (I reckon you've got the better of the deal!!)
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Is this the first official dyno for the XR8? Why is it so low? Thought all these Miami's were getting 300+ rwkw's?
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