:( help!!!! yellow sticker - Page 2

muppet · 12-03-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiapan

bugger...might have to chuck in a stocker to go over the pits :( how will they know its not stock? only carb, ignition and manifold...oh and shiny heads but i didnt think they were ILLEGAL!

lol I think they might have some sort of a clue when you start it up and it sounds like the world is comming to an end and the car is shakeing to all hell . I have a smallish roller cam in mine and there is no way I could convince anyone it is even remotely stock .

GXL078 · 12-03-2007, 11:12 PM

Hey, I want one of those sumps for my C10. Where does the dipstick tube go?

**aussiblue** · 12-03-2007, 11:15 PM

The Requirements are all covered and the Dept of Planning & Infrastructure's site here:http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1412.asp

eg

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Many minor vehicle modifications can be carried out without specific approval. However, they are still subject to compliance with the Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Regulations 2002, Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Rules 2002 and the Australian Design Rules (for date of manufacture and vehicle category).

These include:
Tyre size and aspect ratio
Additional lighting
Single tone air horns
Air conditioners
Air shock absorbers
Alarm systems
Badge bars
Gearbox (pre 1976)
Mud spats and pebble guards
mesh stone shields for wind screens and lamps
Body markings and speed striping
Rear-view mirrors
Roof racks
Radio and stereo systems
Sunvisors
Optional manufacturer seating
seat belts for pre 1969 cars (no full harness types)
Stabilise bars
Torque rods and traction bars (not semi-tramp types)
Venetian blinds and other internal screening systems are allowed subject to a clear view to the rear

Remember, generally, no modification may be carried out if it :
reduces the strength of the vehicle body
reduces the controllability of the vehicle
reduces the safety of the vehicle
causes a nuisance to other people

and

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Approval is required when:

1. You are unsure if the modification you are making to your vehicle is safe or legal.
2. The modification is not included in the approved modification list.
Replacement engines which are of the same capacity and configuration do not generally require specific approval. Engines which differ in capacity and configuration from the original will need specific approval. Approval may be obtained on the spot for more common engine replacements, through the staff at any Vehicle Examination Centre.

Approval for other modifications, including those effecting steering, brakes, suspension or which involve major structural changes to vehicles (e.g.. Volkswagen convertibles and cabriolet conversions) must be obtained through the Licensing Services Vehicle Safety Branch prior to commencement.

You must make a written vehicle modification submission to gain approval for these types of modifications.

Download 'Vehicle modification application for production vehicle' (pdf 153kb)

How To Apply When Written Submissions Are Required

Limitations and Conditions For Some Common Modifications:
Alternative Road Wheels
Exhaust Systems
Alternative Steering Wheels
Alternative Engines (includes the Change in Engine Number form)
Seating and Seat Belts
Suspension
Brake System
Structural Cosmetic Alterations
Bull Bars
Sun Roof

**aussiblue** · 12-03-2007, 11:16 PM

and from that PDF

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An air scoop fitted to the bonnet of a vehicle must not intrude into the line of sight. An air scoop must not have an unobstructed rearward facing opening (an incident such as the bursting of a radiator hose could result in the windscreen becoming completely obscured). The maximum air scoop protection should not exceed 60 mm

**aussiblue** · 12-03-2007, 11:25 PM

and also its says

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Sports type steering wheels may be fitted where they are of sound construction and conform with the following:

Rims and spokes must be of metal construction with a continuous rim
Wooden rims will not be accepted unless continuously reinforced with metal;
The mounting boss must be compatible with the original column and all features such as anti-theft locks etc. must function correctly.
Check steering wheel conformity with ADR requirements.
No wheel will be accepted which is smaller than 333mm (13").
The wheel must be robustly constructed.
Cutting down of the original wheel boss to accept the new wheel will not be permitted.
All essential instrumentation must be visible with the new steering wheel in place

Nostalgia · 12-03-2007, 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=heljas]i didnt think xf's came out with a V8

i looked into changing my old xf over to v8 and i was told due to the fact that the xf didnt have a v8 from factory i couldnt put an 8 into it

if this is wrong ill get angry i loved that car
All i want to say to this is NO XF EVER LEFT THE FACTORY WITH A V8. Correct me if im wrong though. I know for a fact that the last V8 to leave a Ford Factory in the eighties was a XE ESP GHIA.

**aussiblue** · 12-03-2007, 11:26 PM

as for the engine:

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Passenger Cars and Derivatives

Alternative engines may be fitted where they are an option listed by the vehicle manufacturer and provided the complete option, including suspension, braking and transmission systems are utilised.

You can download the Change of Engine Number form here.

Recording of New Engine Number

Where an engine change is effected and there is an alteration in RAC horsepower, it is necessary to have the vehicle examined so that the new engine number can be recorded and the licence amended accordingly. Where the engine is the same capacity it is not required to be presented for inspection. Reassessment may be performed at any Licensing Centre, without payment of a fee.

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 01:15 AM

i thought there were a limited number of xf's with homoglated v8's!?!?! a very small number acctually were sold

muppet · 13-03-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiapan

i thought there were a limited number of xf's with homoglated v8's!?!?! a very small number acctually were sold

There was never any V8's in an xf .

GXL078 · 13-03-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by muppet

There was never any V8's in an xf .

Most "XF V8s" were actually XDs with different sheetmetal. Street Machine built One HO to Go, in 1987.

XR06T · 13-03-2007, 11:34 AM

people may think this is a stupid idea but if i was you i would drive out to narrogin or bunbury as is and just try to get it over there..
depending what they gave you the sticker for address that issue and give it a go.

i know that the osborne park pits is kinder to imports and as long as you have addressed the issues on the sticker, they pass you! my mate got his rx7 passed with no cat and no mufflers, just had to make sure the seatbelts retracted, because that is what he got the sticker for

just have to find somewhere that will appreciate your car as is!

muppet · 13-03-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xcgxl

Most "XF V8s" were actually XDs with different sheetmetal. Street Machine built One HO to Go, in 1987.

Aren't we talking about factory XF's with a V8 in it . If Ford made them which I highly doubt then show me where I can find some info on them . Then I might believe they made them . There are plenty of XF's with V8's in them getting around but you need an engineers certificate . And to get one of those you need to run LPG or a newer injected engine otherwise the engineer wont even look at it. You need an engineers certificate because they never came out with a V8 in them . Thats the way it is in NSW anyway I have no idea about WA .

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 01:05 PM

how about you look at my rego papers then.....passed the cert with a 750 on it :P

ok i get the point about no factory v8 xf's....mine came from my back yard factory

muppet · 13-03-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiapan

how about you look at my rego papers then.....passed the cert with a 750 on it :P

ok i get the point about no factory v8 xf's....mine came from my back yard factory

So does that mean you passed then ? I dont get it.

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 02:40 PM

i have passed before with a 750 on....the car had to be fully inspected after the v8 went in

xwgasaxe · 13-03-2007, 02:42 PM

Just go to the pits the way it is ATM and find out what they want you to do to get it licensed.
No point changing engines untill you find out what is allowed by WA laws.

When I went over my extractors would hit the metal lip on the pit entrance and scrap along for a bit and they weren't the least bit worried about that.
What they did tell me to do was put some decent rubber on it as they felt the 14inch stockies looked stupid and it needed bigger rubber. We joked about how stupid the system is in regards to 18inch wheels on early model cars.

muppet · 13-03-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiapan

i have passed before with a 750 on....the car had to be fully inspected after the v8 went in

So you have had it regoed before with a V8 in it ?
If you have did you have to get an engineers cirtificate ?
Does it have the same engine number (same block ) as before ?
Man WA must be very liberal when it comes to emissions laws if you got it passed before . You would never get it passed in NSW . If they passed it before just do what others have said , take it in and see what they say .

brenx · 13-03-2007, 03:35 PM

NSW is tight. Vic is very quickly becoming this way too.

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 04:32 PM

yeah it has all passed, didnt even have a heater! they are quite good here i just rang up and looks like i can leave the 825 demon on there too!

im grafting an xr8 bonnet buldge on but to pass pits i have a small scoop...i was spewing when i took off the bug catcher and put on a small filter and could shut the bonnet, about 30mm was sticking out of the bugcatcher hole! a bonnet buldge will do it!!!!

one very importaint question...will running a very small filter (6inch dia) and putting an alloy plate between the headers and exhaust with holes drilled in it hurt my engine?

5.0failane · 13-03-2007, 04:51 PM

Ther is a place in Armadale that has a reputation for letting a few things go unnoticed when passing the pits, cant remember the name of the place. If I was you I would chance my arm and take it over as is.

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 04:55 PM

thats exactly what i need :P is there any way i can get a list of inspection places?

BZINGA · 13-03-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiapan

yeah it has all passed, didnt even have a heater! they are quite good here i just rang up and looks like i can leave the 825 demon on there too!

im grafting an xr8 bonnet buldge on but to pass pits i have a small scoop...i was spewing when i took off the bug catcher and put on a small filter and could shut the bonnet, about 30mm was sticking out of the bugcatcher hole! a bonnet buldge will do it!!!!

one very importaint question...will running a very small filter (6inch dia) and putting an alloy plate between the headers and exhaust with holes drilled in it hurt my engine?

I used 4 exhaust flanges that were semi blocked, 2 behind the extractors & 2 behind the mufflers which gave it a reading of 96db @ 3300rpm ( right on the limit ), the car wouldnt rev of course but the EPA test was my concern at the time. My exhaust is a mandrel bent 2.5" with hooker mufflers, x pipe & 2 hotdogs & they say the hooker aero chambers are very quiet

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 05:11 PM

hehe classic! thats the way ta go!

JAYBA · 13-03-2007, 05:18 PM

its just before armadale in kelmscott on gillam dr
they can be alright there havent had too much trouble with four cars over
at that place all iive noticed is that they are very padantic over oil leaks...

theres also welshpool

Tiapan · 13-03-2007, 05:20 PM

thanks very much...will they care about heater??

JAYBA · 13-03-2007, 05:41 PM

thats a risk youl have to take i spose

i know you spose to have one for demister aswell
but they never checked mine on the hot days i was there

5.0failane · 13-03-2007, 06:16 PM

And borrow a shirt from a mechanic. It seems to pay to be wearing a skippers or Holden uniform the day you take it over haha...

brenx · 13-03-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.0failane

And borrow a shirt from a mechanic. It seems to pay to be wearing a skippers or Holden uniform the day you take it over haha...

lol your giving away trade secrets. I go in covered in grease/oil and always get trade price on parts ;)

TruBlu351 · 16-03-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JAYBA

its just before armadale in kelmscott on gillam dr
they can be alright there havent had too much trouble with four cars over
at that place all iive noticed is that they are very padantic over oil leaks...

theres also welshpool

TruBlu351 · 16-03-2007, 02:57 AM

Try a regional licensing centre ;)

Here's a list. Just call the particular shire office and they normally have a local servo that does the inspections instead of the heavies @ the official metro inspection centres.

WRT mods:
Fill in one of these vehicle modification forms when you have it inspected and get the agent to sign it. You then send it into the main Welshpool office and within a few weeks they'll send you out an official certificate of all the approved mods you have. You can flash this around next time you get pulled over and it could save your bacon.

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/...rm_prodveh.pdf

Here's a link for most common WA mods that require approval. ie: steering wheels, suspension, engine mods etc etc. You can call the Technical Section at Welshpool and they'll gladly send you a specific pack in the mail which have all the rules WRT certain topics.....or just answer Q's over the phone. I got a pack sent out WRT scoops and fuel tanks etc.

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1883.asp

Scoops need to have rounded edges, not metal, not higher that 10cm, can't obscure vision, can go into engine bay (foward scoop), but can't have rearward facing holes (real SLR 5000 style) .....incase you blow a radiator hose and it covers windscreen.

Carbon cannister has small line from fuel tank and another which goes to engine vacuum. It disposes of all the bad fumes in your fuel tank.

Some inspectors can spin garbage and have no clue.....they just try and squirt musk all over you.....so be prepared to "nicely" educate them it you feel they're on a tangent.

Have a look at Brenx's old micro air filter!! ;)

Your suspension should be fine.