Another VE recall - Page 2

Falcon Freak · 11-11-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundeep

As for your link, I don't have that much time, sorry.

Sundeep

Yes it takes time to research the facts and verify them to confirm statements. Whereas throw away lines which cannot be substantiated are so easy to do.

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I never made any claims that the BA was free of faults. Whereas you said that the BA was worse then the VE when it was released (i.e. had more recalls). As you are SO lazy (or are a troll), I researched the recall website and found that there were two product recalls for the BA from time of release of that model (September 2002) to the end of 2002. Hence it wasn't worse.

Click here for all vehicle recalls announced in 2nd half of 2002

So get your facts straight.

FF

CATFORD · 11-11-2006, 10:12 AM

......Holden....I have to say it has to be expected to have a few recalls....in the first series of any model...but Holden does have a habit of releasing cars a little early/extremly rushed on to the market....hence why they don't have the Holden Ute out....they did the same thing with the VT....no ute or LWB chassis until 18mths + after its sedan release......lets hope new car buyers will lean towards the proven AU/BA platform.....wouldn't hold my breath though....I think we are now going to witness the death of the AU/BA platform in the sales department....it has done extremely well...and maybe even saved Ford Australia from closure....BRING ON 2008!!!

SS beast · 11-11-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PETE_XR6

Holden issues second Commodore recallBy Tim Dornin
November 10, 2006 02:24pm

After problems with the fuel line on 1300 of its V8 models last month, the company today recalled about 13,000 cars to fix a potential problem with rear seatbelt buckles which could allow them to come undone.

http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...-31037,00.html

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

AshMan · 11-11-2006, 10:26 AM

I believe the car manufacturers are to blame, as others have said they push the prices down, and suppliers are forced to used inferior raw materials, and inferior (imported) labour...

I'm wondering if the seatbelt manufacturers used manual labour because it was cheaper than retooling a shop with robots?

AshMan · 11-11-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Falcons are by NO MEANS shortfalled on their lack of power and styling...

Focussed · 11-11-2006, 10:33 AM

The fuel problem was from a supplier in korea & the seatbelt from a supplier in south africa.
i'm originally from south africa & i swear i had nothing to do with it! ;)

The Monty · 11-11-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Hey man, I think you logged on to the wrong site. Grow up, and leave the Ford bagging to the LS1 forums. Gosh, I am sick of trying to find a decent read in some of these threads, where 12 year olds who have no knowledge of Ford, come here and try and bag them. I know its the weekend, and schools out, but could you please find something else to do?

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Psycho Chicken · 11-11-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CATFORD

but Holden does have a habit of releasing cars a little early/extremly rushed on to the market....hence why they don't have the Holden Ute out....they did the same thing with the VT....no ute or LWB chassis until 18mths + after its sedan release......

NF Fairlane wasn't released until 1995, a full 8 months after the EF was out. Considering the only difference is the extra length (which was already designed anyway) and new rear sheet metal that's nothing compared to a ute or WH Stato.
XF ute ran until 1992, 4 years after the EA was out. And even then, the XG and XH are pretty much a XFs with a 4.0 dropped in it.
XH ute ran for a while after the AU was made.
BA LWB took a while to come out (June 2004?).
BF2 LWB? Huh? What are they?

It's fun ignoring facts.

**Falcon Coupe** · 11-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Every new model has teething issues, no big deal, my 06' Navara has had 3 recalls.

Walkinshaw · 11-11-2006, 11:39 AM

Oh No! A part was found to be POTENTIALY defective. the VE is crap, quick burn them all.

Some people have no idea.

MYV8 · 11-11-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSparkle

Will be interesting to see how "Orion" goes on this front... I think any fanboys on here should be careful before sinking in the boot on VE recalls too quickly!

I agree.
I had the first model Explorer Limited (~$60,000) about 8 or so years ago and that had 15 recalls in the 3 years I had it. Some minor recalls for carpet etc but also some major safety issues.
The car had plenty of good features but the quality was cr@p.
I am definately no Holden fan but I would not go pointing the finger just yet LoL.

Psycho Chicken · 11-11-2006, 11:56 AM

What's everyone think of Subarus? Fairly safe and well built?

Let's see. Cruise cables coming off. Trans cooler lines leaking (more than one recall). Park pawls breaking. Alarms turning the car off at random. Rear sway bars knocking off brake lines (I won't even go into how dodgy the fix is). Oil ****ing out of control valves due to loose bolts.

Every car has recalls. Most can probably be hand balled to parts suppliers. Such is life.

070mstg · 11-11-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

What's everyone think of Subarus?

not much

Psycho Chicken · 11-11-2006, 12:07 PM

haha touche!

Bossxr8 · 11-11-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Could someone please ban this troll.

As for the VE recalls, thats what you get for getting most of your parts from China and Korea. There is probably no word in their language for quality. Cheap is the word used instead.

bob 351 · 11-11-2006, 12:58 PM

We all know that Ford and Holden are supposed to be austrailian made. So why dont both companys source all there parts here in good old aus. Instead they have to cut corners and sell their imported parts and crap cars to us aussie's. All we want is a reliable new car that when we buy it it does'nt have any proplems yeah sure i know some car's will have problems thats murphys law but surely not a total recall. So come on Ford and Holden get it right like you used to. Go the early Ford and Holden maybe that's why early ford and holden are still worth good dollar's now.

Falcon Freak · 11-11-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Could someone please ban this troll.

Easily done. Everybody who thinks he is a troll should click the triangle on the left hand side. If enough people complain the forum moderators will ban him.

FF

pHaT`eL · 11-11-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Haha.. Im pretty sure the BF was voted better looking that the VE? As for the BA having many recalls, there were only 2? One was static electricity from plastic seat covers causing airbags to go off (hardly anything to worry about unless your delivering the car to a dealer, the second one was worse, but thats what happens when you develop a new item (control blade IRS), no amount of testing can prepare for what people do to there cars.

Ryan · 11-11-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Mate we're on a FORD!!! forum. I hope you don't think that comment, will go unseen.

I think LS1.com or SC.com, is the appropriate place for comments like that.

danv8 · 11-11-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Mate we're on a FORD!!! forum. I hope you don't think that comment, will go unseen.

I think LS1.com or SC.com, is the appropriate place for comments like that.

Sorry I thought this was the pub section that you can talk about almost anything to do with cars.

Maybe there should be something said about it in a FAQ section,

Q: Are the members allowed to discuss anything about cars?
A: Yes you sure can but you can only talk about Fords and bash other brands as well. ;) (tongue in cheek)

Sure I am a Holden fan and also a Chrysler fan as well and yes I don't mind Fords either especially the classics.

I just like cars but I don't know why people have to feel to need to bash all the time.

Could be worse we can have all our cars imported and have no locally made cars here to enjoy.

Christmas is coming and I don't think I would be gettin a GT40 anytime soon. :(

HQ2VY · 11-11-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8man83

and im fairly sure that there would be heaps of people on the holden forums bagging falcons i bag holdens because im a ford guy and this is a ford site get use to it mate :MrT_anim:

is that intellegent enough for you hqv8 :jab:

Fairies Nuts!!

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Ryan · 11-11-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by danv8

Sorry I thought this was the pub section that you can talk about almost anything to do with cars.

Maybe there should be something said about it in a FAQ section,

Q: Are the members allowed to discuss anything about cars?
A: Yes you sure can but you can only talk about Fords and bash other brands as well. ;) (tongue in cheek)

Yeah mate you're right, but I don't see the point of bashing Ford, on it's home turf. ;)

Not that I condone bashing, but atleast it should be done at the right place and not on the opposition's forum.

All it does is get people ****ed off and turns the topic to crap.

I'm a Holden owner myself and I know from experience that there are limits.

SLY LS1 · 11-11-2006, 04:15 PM

Recalls... And the winner is...........

Honda
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
52

Subaru
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
16

Mazda
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
35

Toyota
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
91

Holden
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
86

And the winner is...
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search_rec...Submit2=Submit
Ford on [*96*]

Loving It... you should try it sometime... :eclipsee_

philstoj · 11-11-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SLY LS1

Loving It... you should try it sometime... :eclipsee_

Looks real nice wayne, they are a very good looking car, wheels really suit it aswell.

cheers, phil.

FLYXR6 · 11-11-2006, 04:52 PM

i wonder how many recalls the holden blimp has had? hahhahahahah

**Falcon Coupe** · 11-11-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

The only poor thing here is your attitude, if your only here to talk ****, best you **** off to where it will be well recieved.

**Falcon Coupe** · 11-11-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SLY LS1

Loving It... you should try it sometime... :eclipsee_

I saw that car at Calder last week, very nice, the wheels look great.

Full Spectrum · 11-11-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pHaT`eL

Haha.. Im pretty sure the BF was voted better looking that the VE? As for the BA having many recalls, there were only 2? One was static electricity from plastic seat covers causing airbags to go off (hardly anything to worry about unless your delivering the car to a dealer, the second one was worse, but thats what happens when you develop a new item (control blade IRS), no amount of testing can prepare for what people do to there cars.

Actually that IRS was a little human error it seemed, Circlips might have been left off the cv joints.

SpoolMan · 11-11-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SS beast

Ford Australia would probably wet themselves if they could just sell 13,000 cars in the first place to be given the opportunity to recall them for a minor (or non-existent) issue.
If Ford really wanted to do the right thing by it's customers it would recall ALL Falcons for poor styling & a lack of power that even their misleading power figures can't hide.

Funny you say that considering you posted this 5 days ago, you are trolling.

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Originally Posted by SS beast

All in good fun mate. The Falcon is a good looking car, compared to most cars on the road, I am a die hard Holden man so can't agree with your comment that the VE doesn't look good (agressive looking too I reckon with the flared guards). Holden & Ford both need to hold those damn Toyotas back though..........Cheers, it's beer 'o' clock.

AshMan · 11-11-2006, 06:45 PM

I remember driving the recent model rodeo's that had the cruise control cable jam, I was one of the people that sparked the recall, driving on the highway, cruise control jammed on about half throttle, had to pull off the highway and cut the cruise cable...

Those rodeos were shocking to drive, bad turning circle and felt like a boat on the highway...

That would have to be the worse holden I've driven.