Go ahead...overtake!

[AU-Hog]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Lets keep this on topic!
Dont give me that cr&p about trucks having speed limiters because i followed and passed many trucks Friday night to Wagga and 90% of them were doing 120+km/hr so how do you explain that?

Maybe you were going at 140+km/hr.....?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by AU-Hog

Maybe you were going at 140+km/hr.....?

Chances are i may have been!
But then again i'm not the one claiming that i can't overtake cars that speed up from 90 to 100 because i have a speed limiter.
My car has a 180km/hr speed limiter!(however i have never been close to it on a public road)
Dont like it, take it up with Ford!

Another thing, If trucks are speed limited to 100k's, and i would say that as driving is cut throat and time is money, idoubt many drivers would drive under that, wouldn't "booting it to pass" take me over the 110 k limit anyway and therefore be breaking the law ?
Yep clear as mud!

[jason71]

I've done it plenty of times, I just sit behind them at good distance and then when they indicate I gas it hard to get to overtaking speed, pull out a lilttle have a look, if clear shoot past 'em, give 'em the left-right-left for thanks, see ya later

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Chances are i may have been!
But then again i'm not the one claiming that i can't overtake cars that speed up from 90 to 100 because i have a speed limiter.
My car has a 180km/hr speed limiter!(however i have never been close to it on a public road)
Dont like it, take it up with Ford!

Another thing, If trucks are speed limited to 100k's, and i would say that as driving is cut throat and time is money, idoubt many drivers would drive under that, wouldn't "booting it to pass" take me over the 110 k limit anyway and therefore be breaking the law ?
Yep clear as mud!

Bent 8, you’ve brought up an issue that was sensible to start with, however, you’ve shown your total ignorance here with the garbage you’ve just posted.
I can’t speak for the few people that you’ve claimed were speeding, nor do I care for your opinion from now on.

I couldn’t care less about how fast your car goes of how fast you’ve driven it.
By the tone of this post you obviously have an issue that you were just dying to get of your chest. Well get over it.

If you don’t like what you see out there on the road, call the cops and stop annoying us here.

I will not waste any more time on this thread.

[fiery]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Lets keep this on topic!
Dont give me that cr&p about trucks having speed limiters because i followed and passed many trucks Friday night to Wagga and 90% of them were doing 120+km/hr so how do you explain that?

What is your issue?? The truck driver gave you the 'all clear' signal to then discover that it wasn't.. He made a mistake.. He gave you the signal that then you were to work out immediately if you were gonna take the chance or not.
I am sure most drivers would not give a car the all clear just to be stupid and see an accident happen..

The point to all this is.. if you don't want to overtake then don't.. if you do, say thanks to the truckie afterwards by blinking back.. but don't overtake then slow down to be a pain to him....

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by fiery

What is your issue?? The truck driver gave you the 'all clear' signal to then discover that it wasn't.. He made a mistake.. He gave you the signal that then you were to work out immediately if you were gonna take the chance or not.
I am sure most drivers would not give a car the all clear just to be stupid and see an accident happen..

The point to all this is.. if you don't want to overtake then don't.. if you do, say thanks to the truckie afterwards by blinking back.. but don't overtake then slow down to be a pain to him....

Valid point, but what if i wasn't such a cautious driver and just "booted it" because i trusted the truck driver.
I have no problem with getting a signal from a heavy vehicle if the guy in front can see far enough ahead to not put me in a situation i can't get out of.
If he couldn't see a bend ahead how the hell was i supposed to know if it was reallty safe?
As i said he had a better view than me.

[Keepleft]

I'll reinforce the UHF CB advice, if you travel this big land - install one, or at least carry a UHF portable, channel 40 is the primary road channel.

Sometimes one sets it to scan.

It is not for heavy vehicle drivers to tell other traffic when to pass, since to do so could lead them to court for claims of contributory negligence should a party have followed their advice/signal and come to grief as a result.

Mildly OT - Rem that you are permitted to flash your headlights momentariliy (a quick flash) to signal to lead traffic of your intention to overtake, your regular indicators must then be used, 'fully'.

The allowance arrives to us via the UN Convention on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals and is therefore adopted into the ARR's and typically imparted in the state and territory driver handbooks.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Bent 8, you’ve brought up an issue that was sensible to start with, however, you’ve shown your total ignorance here with the garbage you’ve just posted.
I can’t speak for the few people that you’ve claimed were speeding, nor do I care for your opinion from now on.

I couldn’t care less about how fast your car goes of how fast you’ve driven it.
By the tone of this post you obviously have an issue that you were just dying to get of your chest. Well get over it.

If you don’t like what you see out there on the road, call the cops and stop annoying us here.

I will not waste any more time on this thread.

And the one thing you have failed to explain in all of this is how a speed limited truck can do the speeds it would require for me to require 140k's to overtake.
Clearly i am not the only one over the limit.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

I'll reinforce the UHF CB advise, if you travel this big land - install one, or at least carry a UHF portable, channel 40 is the primary road channel.

Sometimes one sets it to scan.

It is not for heavy vehicle drivers to tell other traffic when to pass, since to do so could lead them to court for claims of contributory negligence should a party have followed their advice/signal and come to grief as a result.

Mildly OT - Rem that you are permitted to flash your headlights momentariliy (a quick flash) to signal to lead traffic of your intention to overtake, your regular indicators must then be used, 'fully'.

The allowance arrives to us via the UN Convention on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals and is therefore adopted into the ARR's and typically imparted in the state and territory driver handbooks.

So i take it that if a heavy vehicle driver, or any road user signals a clear path to overtake and causes an accident, they can be held culpable.
I'm sure then that if i had come to grief, this guy would have voluntarily offered himself as the guilty party, to the cops.

I thank you for clearing that up for us mate!

[fiery]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

And the one thing you have failed to explain in all of this is how a speed limited truck can do the speeds it would require for me to require 140k's to overtake.
Clearly i am not the only one over the limit.

Some not all.. but some truck drivers have disconnected the limiters...
But then there are also those that have trucks that the mechanics have 'guessed' the speed limiter and have been out..

Truck drivers are no different to car drivers (except the obvious) in the fact that there are those that do not obey the law and then there are those that do.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by fiery

Some not all.. but some truck drivers have disconnected the limiters...
But then there are also those that have trucks that the mechanics have 'guessed' the speed limiter and have been out..

Truck drivers are no different to car drivers (except the obvious) in the fact that there are those that do not obey the law and then there are those that do.

I believe the amount of trucks bypassing their limiters may have something to do with the introduction of SAFE-T-CAM, among other things, but this would suggest that there may be more than a few with dodgy limiters.

[fiery]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

I believe the amount of trucks bypassing their limiters may have something to do with the introduction of SAFE-T-CAM, among other things, but this would suggest that there may be more than a few with dodgy limiters.

Yes I agree that there may be more than just a few.. and amongst those that have 'dodgy' limiters I would bet that 50% are decent blokes (or women) just trying to keep their jobs or keep their heads above water..

Whilst fuel prices have gone up, I can tell you that the rates within transport have not gone up enough to match that..

Anyway back on track.. if you had a UHF you could have spoken with the driver (as I actually do often when I am driving somewhere) and he would have more than likely said, sorry bout that ....
Just because he is a truck driver, that does not mean he will be beyond making a mistake in judgement.. Thankfully you were sensible enough to think and look before booting....

That is what it comes down to, you were given a split decision choice, you chose to make your own decision....

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by jason71

I've done it plenty of times, I just sit behind them at good distance and then when they indicate I gas it hard to get to overtaking speed, pull out a lilttle have a look, if clear shoot past 'em, give 'em the left-right-left for thanks, see ya later

I was wondering what signal to respond back with .... I have been told a few different ones ... i know the trucks on the freeway use the "left-right-left" when pulling back in to let you know it is safe to pass.

Just wasn't sure on the response to say thanks ... have been told to use "left-right-right" as a response.

Wonder if there is a "special code" the truck drivers actually use though.

[fiery]

Originally Posted by Mechan1k

I was wondering what signal to respond back with .... I have been told a few different ones ... i know the trucks on the freeway use the "left-right-left" when pulling back in to let you know it is safe to pass.

Just wasn't sure on the response to say thanks ... have been told to use "left-right-right" as a response.

Wonder if there is a "special code" the truck drivers actually use though.

Don't know if it has changed over the years.. but when dad was an interstate driver he always told us that it was the left-right-left and make sure to keep your speed up as to not be a pain in the backside to the truck..

I have done that ever since getting my licence and also have always had some sort of radio so as to say a quick verbal thanks (most times anyway)..

I bet most people don't think that when a truck is passing them to either slow down that little bit (Do not speed up) and give a quick flick of your lights so they know they can pull in safely... That was another thing drummed into me from dad and his mates :

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by fiery

I bet most people don't think that when a truck is passing them to either slow down that little bit (Do not speed up) and give a quick flick of your lights so they know they can pull in safely... That was another thing drummed into me from dad and his mates :

I always give a quick double flash to truck drivers ... even if I am catching them and a truck needs to pull out to overtake a slower vehicle ... I'll back off ... give the doule flash and let them out. Same if they overtake me and need to pull in ... I'll double-flash to let them know they have passed me enough to pull in.

[AnthonyQLD]

Originally Posted by J.C.

As mention, channel 40 UHF. Have a small hand held unit that we travel with and listen to. Don't talk much on it as I have found the truckie don't like car drivers much

Its not that they dont like car drivers, its the fact that people get on channel 40 and have a good old long chat. If you want to chat to someone go to a different channel.

[Redrum]

I have had help from truckies letting me know when to pass and never had an issue.

I did once take accident reports though for a van driver who waved someone pass when it wasnt clear..............